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  1. #1 here's why immortal is good 
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    I don't think in future there will be a generation that can be so much a impact to our world as our baby boomers, so therefore, it is important for scientists to find a way to cure aging. there are many factors that cause aging that have been discovered, so it is just a matter of fact to find strategies to cure them. Aging process is naturally programed in our bodies; therefore, if we know how to modify our bodies, why not making us be younger?

    I have a few ways to solve the impact of consequence by living forever:

    1. Most industrialized countries--Japan, US--have lowest rate of having babies; therefore, if people of those regions want to live with the latest medical treatments, forcing them not to have kids will be wise choices, or if they want to have, they may not join.

    2. Developing countries are poor, so they have many babies. Don't let them enjoy the latest medicines because that will make them live longer; thus, they can live in old ways they want.

    3. Try to build up some facilities that can keep an eye on those religious fanatics. Some religious fanatics might try to ruin our diligently-built progress that can turn the world better, so if we monitor them, we can save those babyboomer along with old fellows to the bests.

    And we should also try to focus on colonizing to some other planets which have similar life-supports as earth, so I think we need more astrounounts along with geographists to explore the outer space.

    However, if you have some older grandparents that you wish them to live longer, try to focus on cryogenic facility. I beleive nowadays techniques are mature enough. And Make sure you find a right company.

    Now we need more people to get into our research programs so that we can proceed the advancements of curing aging faster to our needing world. I think most babyboomers are optimistic, and they want to live forever as we do, so more funding and supports are needed. A lot of people say we are trying to defy the nature, defy the god. There is no god in my brain definitions. God, what's that? Just an illusion generated by ancient people.

    Also that many systems shall be considered to be changed as this trend is coming: set the retirement age longer, force more people to respect others beleifs.

    And I think lviing forever is a good good thing, why:

    because we can learn many more things that we haven't learnd during our learning peak, and we can make use, and strong use, of our young bodies to get know of how this logic works. We will have more times to make plans for the world, and oru babyboomers probably will be the most dominant groups in our future comings that they will use their hard-to-get experiences to make the world nice for us.

    Aging can be cured--and I meant it--it's jut not "if" but "when." There is only one way to extend our lifes: by restricting calories made of the food we eat. However, if we can truely comprehend and make use of genetic program inside aging mystery, we will be able to extend human lifes into considerable amounts. I think we will achieve to that level pretty soon, but religions and governments will be another concerns.

    However, I hope you people can support cloning reseach and stem-cell funding.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ps2huang
    I don't think in future there will be a generation that can be so much a impact to our world as our baby boomers,
    Evidence for this bizarre claim?
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    I have a few ways to solve the impact of consequence by living forever:
    2. Developing countries are poor, so they have many babies. Don't let them enjoy the latest medicines because that will make them live longer; thus, they can live in old ways they want.
    Immortality is unnecessary when we have reincarnation, Adolf.
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    3. Try to build up some facilities that can keep an eye on those religious fanatics. Some religious fanatics might try to ruin our diligently-built progress that can turn the world better, so if we monitor them, we can save those babyboomer along with old fellows to the bests.
    Ah, George Orwell, what perception you had. How well you understood the dark underbelly of humanity.
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    And we should also try to focus on colonizing to some other planets which have similar life-supports as earth, so I think we need more astrounounts along with geographists to explore the outer space.
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    Now which planets that you know of have similar life-supports to Earth?
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    However, if you have some older grandparents that you wish them to live longer, try to focus on cryogenic facility. I beleive nowadays techniques are mature enough. And Make sure you find a right company.
    Do you plan on asking those older grandparents if they want to be preserved? I guess not. If you want your grandparents to remain alive you'll take that decision without their input.


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    to cure aging.
    is ageing a disease? Or natural?
    Aging process is naturally programmed inn our bodies
    you answered my question. Ageing is a factor of life, its going to happen to us all. If Mother Nature wanted us to smoke she would have put chimneys on us. If she wanted us to live for ever, well she wouldn't want us to reproduce. Reproduction is part of the definition of life, and its there for a reason- human continuity. we will live forever through our own children
    forcing them not to have kids
    Mussolini tried to do the opposite. Look what happened to him. how exactly would you attempt to prevent us from having children, when we can't even stop our own unwanted births? that’s not possible
    Developing countries are poor, so they have many babies.
    i don't think that’s the reason they have "many babies". But that’s irrelevant. they are poor, not living the way we are. why not forget about yourself for a minute and think, if you can improve their life span, let those who can't, have a chance at living, before you decide you should get the chance to LIVE FOREVER
    force more people to respect others beliefs
    !!??!!
    eliminate religion
    ? your a hypocrite!
    we can learn many more things that we haven't learned during our learning peak
    if you cant learn after your learning peak, (which is evidently last few years for yourself) what chance is there of you learning anything more, who says you will peak again????
    However, I hope you people can support cloning research and stem-cell funding.
    i support stem cells. cloning to a certain extent. neither have the ability to make us immortal. only to delay death. which may be o good thing. But only delay, or make easier.
    Stumble on through life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ps2huang
    I have a few ways to solve the impact of consequence by living forever:

    1. Most industrialized countries--Japan, US--have lowest rate of having babies; therefore, if people of those regions want to live with the latest medical treatments, forcing them not to have kids will be wise choices, or if they want to have, they may not join.

    2. Developing countries are poor, so they have many babies. Don't let them enjoy the latest medicines because that will make them live longer; thus, they can live in old ways they want.

    3. Try to build up some facilities that can keep an eye on those religious fanatics. Some religious fanatics might try to ruin our diligently-built progress that can turn the world better, so if we monitor them, we can save those babyboomer along with old fellows to the bests.

    And we should also try to focus on colonizing to some other planets which have similar life-supports as earth, so I think we need more astrounounts along with geographists to explore the outer space.
    1.first of all, forcing people to do anything would bring rebelion to the people that want to have children. if you just suggested to some people to do that, maybe some would. good luck for support.

    2. poor countries cannot afford as much medical treatment, so you dont have to prohibit it.

    3. how would you "keep an eye on" religious people? even when we know what they are doing, we cant stop them from saying anything because of the first amendment rights.

    and exactly how are we going to get people outside our solar system?
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    There indeed some point in which your plans are weak.
    1) the already mentioned prohibition part, it does not work on people. Also force people into respecting others. If it would be that easy it will be already done, it just does not work.
    2) The technique will be available for they how don not have children, (this can only be done by circumcising them). My question, will it be government founded procedure so it is truly available for this category or must it you gather a small fortune to joins the program?
    3) In this program you obviously strive toward a society with 2 speeds, a society with 2 kinds of people. To long and short living. As you mention the long living will have more learning abilities and will outsmart the rest. Don’t you fear kind of apartheid or separatism?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Him
    2) The technique will be available for they how don not have children, (this can only be done by circumcising them).
    I think you will find that circumcision is no barrier to fatherhood.
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    Vasectomy is a surgery where the testes are disconnected, so there is no sperm. no sperm, no fertilazation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophiolite
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    2) The technique will be available for they how don not have children, (this can only be done by circumcising them).
    I think you will find that circumcision is no barrier to fatherhood.
    Of course, really stupid of me, I did mean sterilization ... or vasectomy as said by chamilton333.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Him
    Of course, really stupid of me, I did mean sterilization ... or vasectomy as said by chamilton333.
    They say the pen is mightier than the sword, but in this case a slip of the pen carries fewer consequences than the slit of the scalpel. :wink:
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    ouch....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ps2huang
    1. Most industrialized countries--Japan, US--have lowest rate of having babies; therefore, if people of those regions want to live with the latest medical treatments, forcing them not to have kids will be wise choices, or if they want to have, they may not join.
    I'm agreeing so far, except with the problems that arise in my mind (i.e. population, crime, food shortage).

    Quote Originally Posted by ps2huang
    2. Developing countries are poor, so they have many babies. Don't let them enjoy the latest medicines because that will make them live longer; thus, they can live in old ways they want.
    So, we will give industrialized countries the benefits, and leave the developing countries with the short hand? What is this, an earthly game of "pick the straw?" (Whoops, Afghanistan, you picked the short straw! Ha ha, no medicine for a decade!) Also, you then say something else, which I have boldened to clarify. "They want?" This makes your whole passage paradoxical, so I discard it.

    Quote Originally Posted by ps2huang
    3. Try to build up some facilities that can keep an eye on those religious fanatics. Some religious fanatics might try to ruin our diligently-built progress that can turn the world better, so if we monitor them, we can save those babyboomer along with old fellows to the bests.
    Ha ha, I'd agree if it wasn't so inhumane. However, this makes you no better than a slightly more ethical Hitler.

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    And we should also try to focus on colonizing to some other planets which have similar life-supports as earth, so I think we need more astrounounts along with geographists to explore the outer space.
    We are, until it eats into our national budget. Funding so many space programs would take money from other programs. But wait, we could print more money? Inflation would then settle in. Ergo, I don't need to continue.

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    ...force more people to respect others beleifs.
    You are, indeed, a massive hypocrite.

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    because we can learn many more things that we haven't learnd during our learning peak, and we can make use, and strong use, of our young bodies to get know of how this logic works. We will have more times to make plans for the world, and oru babyboomers probably will be the most dominant groups in our future comings that they will use their hard-to-get experiences to make the world nice for us.
    Let me bring the truth of Nihilism to shatter that tin-foil hat you're wearing. Think about before you were born. You can't; exactly. That's how it'll be when you die. Therefore, possibly the worst thing would be to live a slow death, knowing that you were going to die. Other than that, you'd simply cease to exist. You won't care when you're dead, even if your biological urge to survive is dominating you right now.

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    However, I hope you people can support cloning reseach and stem-cell funding.
    Agreed.
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