Thread: Ethical genebiology

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It has come reality to "re-engineer" our genes by adding
artificial gene-replacements (this has been done with mouses
and other "lesser-lifeforms")...

What if in the future it woud be a possibility to have
"boost up" our natural gene-compination to create
a speciments that fits our taste?

Should we ask the classical question: Is man started to act as a god?
What is the ethics of breaking the "results of natural selection"?

i think we have already started playing god , a long time ago.
there is a very large line drawn one that many people see as difeerent ,
i see a problem when natural selection is disbanded, ie disinger babys

but i don't have a problem with curing a child/adult wehn they are born

Yes, the desing-babys... It might sound a good idea at first,
but when you think about it closer, it suddenly start
to plays resemblance to Hitlers "the Supreme human development"-projects (aka. the quest for Aryan masterrace).

It was good think to point out curing babys and childrem...
I think too that it can be accepted...

Although I am not sure if I like the previous idea of creating new life
only as a purpose to fix old (to "farm" embryos using them some sort
of spare part-factory).

well it depends, agian , the line is thick and each sied are throwing stones, those stuck in th emiddle are geting hurt!

i think growin stem cells, is ok.
growing embryos in the body is not good

in the body tey have te potentil to become a life, outside, take away any of the factors, and they cannot grow. therefore i don't think they can be classed as embryos, as such

but now your moving on to life issues, i find myself all the time going back and fourth.

so are you talking about embryos or gene_editing?

two different topics. too many differences. genes aren't alive as such

Exactly what is bad about wanting to give my child blond hair and blue eyes?

Mr U

To GoodGod3rd:

I am talking gene-editting...
I just mentioned embryos, because that moment I saw a clear
link between raising embryos for spare-parts - and editing genes.

To HomoUniversalis:

Well, There is nothing bad in it, but what happens if...

We start to edit genes of our babys to make them fit
our vision of "ideal child"...

Years later the child might boost his/hers genes to make
them fit his own vision of "ideal human"...

And finally this might lead to the fact that an unique form
of a person, caused by mixing genes of parents with sheer
coincidence, will disappear and be replaced these
"detail-made" units...

I mean, there might be a day to come when "common" people
will be replaced by "ideal" people...

So I understand if you accept gene-editing... but I like to
ask you, how we can define "humane humanity" anymore,
if everyone starts to think (I doubt this a lot) that changing
"unstable" course of natural selection would be accepted?

:? thats exactly what i mean by the line,

nothing wrong with that at all, but there are people that won't stop there, might want their child to be tall, and strong, super.

and i know i don't want my children to get diabetes, because i more than likely have the gene, i would like to take it out, and i seem to be devolpeing rumatiod arthitis, my mother has it. i know my mother dosen't want me to have it.

its obvious , natural we want whast best for our children.

but where is it suitalble. back to your example, when that child grows up, they might not want to have blond hair,

if a parent decides that they want there child to have blond hair, is it for the childs benifite or their own?

Gene therapy will become an excepted part of medicine, since it involves the next step in the fight against human diseases. Hence, all hands on deck.
However the technology has its dark sides, the experience we will build-up pursuing human health gives us the knowledge to designs new persons.
The worst case scenario’s are endless and will happen. In our economic-focussed system one who has the financial capacity will (be able to) create the perfect working human‘drone’. Furthermore it is the next step toward expanding the gap between rich and poor; (rich being able to genetically improve themselves). I understand the technology evolution all such processes can have. But I rather stride for evolution of a whole society.
To conclude: before opening a gate you better know what’s behind it.

Originally Posted by HomoUniversalis

Exactly what is bad about wanting to give my child blond hair and blue eyes?

Mr U

There is nothing bad about wanting it. It is seeking to do it that carries the dangers.

I can't really sit on either side of the fence on this one. I think you have to judge it as the issue arises, because there are many shades of gray here. It's too complex to really say "yay" or "nay" without a more specific application to examine.

a very think line me thinks,

i'd say im as close to the yes side, as far as i can to my own moral standards, but then it stops,

all hands on deck.

quite right