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    So, I seem to have issues with inflammation. I can list about 4 seperate events that I have had long term inflammatory complications from different things.

    For example, I had walking pneumonia and ended up with costal chondritis for over a year as a complication. I hurt my back Jan 12th, the original prognosis said about Jan 30th I'd be better. Then, it was Feb 25th. Now, they think I'm better but was reinjured. The point on that one is that this injury isn't responding the way it should and it's all because of inflammation sticking around too long and flaring up adjacent to the site of injury.

    I've heard that inflammatory issues like this are often related to auto immune conditions. Does anyone have any insight on this?

    (I have a doctors appointment friday to get things sorted out, but I'd like to check it out a bit myself and don't know much about this topic so a springoff point would be lovely).


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    This doesnt sound like an autoimmune illness.

    This sounds more like you have fibrosis in the relevant organs as a result of the inflammation. This causes some levels of lowered ability to the previous state but this is the body's way of healing.


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    That thought had crossed my mind. What does fibrosis entail?
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    I've heard that inflammatory issues like this are often related to auto immune conditions.
    Yes, there are so related in fact, that they are often referred to as autoimmune/inflammatory diseases. Some of the most common autoimmune/inflammatory diseases are rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, thyroiditis, multiple sclerosis, fibromyalgia and chronic fatigue syndrome. These are all the result of your body's immune system turning on itself.

    This sounds more like you have fibrosis in the relevant organs as a result of the inflammation.
    Robbie's explanation is valid here. You don't seem to have symptoms of a serious autoimmune/inflammatory issue; what you seem to be experiencing is merely part of the reparative process.In the extreme, fibrosis is the process by which Cystic fibrosis and Endomyocardial fibrosis work, forming excess connective tissue in an organ until it can't perform its natural functions. However, you have inflammation in a part of your body that would make sense and correspond to the earlier issues you have had. If the inflammation is severe and does not go away, maybe you should ask for corticosteroids or non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs. See a specialist if it gets out of hand.
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    corticosteroids didn't help the costal chondritis, non steroidal anti inflammatories didn't touch the injury I have now, the sacral iliac joint.

    A timeline for all the injuries or incidents with problematic inflammation go like this:

    1. Event (be it injury or pneumonia etc)
    2. Inflammation
    3. Inflammation spreads, doesn't go down with drugs
    4. Pain spreads to a degree, and inflammation is rampant for up to a year.

    There are other issues as well...with the lungs, after the inflammation has gone down, I experience pain sometimes in times of stress. If I have a large meal, I find myself coughing up phlem for some reason. So fibrosis sounds like it could be an issue. If diagnosed with this, can I expect issues with any mechanical injury or sickness with inflammation involved?
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    List all of your symptoms and the duration of each. Tell us what doctors have told you. I can give you ideas but I'm not a doctor.

    1. Event
    Doesn't explain much.


    costal chondritis, sacral iliac joint, lungs
    Well, this changes my perspective.
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    The costal chondritis was probably due to the repeated coughing caused by the initial event..pneumonia, u say? (please explain what this event was). The sacral iliac joint inflammation may be unrelated.


    Link to info about costochondritis:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Costochondritis

    Tietze syndrome is a benign inflammation of one or more of the costal cartilages. It was first described in 1921 by the German surgeon Alexander Tietze (1864-1927).[1][2]

    While similar, Tietze syndrome is not identical to costochondritis. Tietze syndrome is characterized by swelling of the costal cartilages, while in costochondritis there is no swelling. It is now recognized that the presence or absence of swelling is only an indicator of the severity of the condition.


    While the true causes of Tietze's Syndrome are not well understood, it often results from a physical strain or minor injury, such as repeated coughing, vomiting or impacts to the chest. It has even been known to occur after hearty bouts of laughter. It can occur by over exerting or by an injury in the chest and breast.

    Psychological stress is also a cause of Tietze's Syndrome. Preceding stressful events such as relationship problems, family issues or work related stress are very commonly associated with this syndrome.
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    there was no coughing with the pneumonia, it was walking pneumonia. A minor case that went away in a week without complications, yet somehow the inflammation stuck around. Weird.

    I'd say that Tietze syndrome would be likely, but then I'm in considerable pain right now on the sacral iliac joint and physio is only making things worse. That points to a more generic and widespread inflammation problem, as apparently the issue isn't limited by location.
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    there was no coughing with the pneumonia, it was walking pneumonia. A minor case that went away in a week without complications, yet somehow the inflammation stuck around. Weird.
    Oh, I didn't know when you were coughing. Never heard of walking pneumonia...

    I'd say that Tietze syndrome would be likely, but then I'm in considerable pain right now on the sacral iliac joint and physio is only making things worse. That points to a more generic and widespread inflammation problem, as apparently the issue isn't limited by location.
    That just seems odd. I have no clue why your sacral iliac joint is hurting.
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    it's hurting cause of mechanical issues. Now it's inflammed and the inflammation won't go down.

    Walking pneumonia is basically the gentle type of pneumonia. I had it like 3 weeks with the only symptom being "hurting lungs after I eat a meal". Pretty much you can function still, so there is very few complications with it...in my case, zero.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mormoopid
    Walking pneumonia is basically the gentle type of pneumonia. I had it like 3 weeks with the only symptom being "hurting lungs after I eat a meal". Pretty much you can function still, so there is very few complications with it...in my case, zero.
    Then you are one lucky bastard. I just got over walking pneumonia, only I felt like a walking ball of mucus. I didn't get a good night's sleep for weeks because I would wake up several times a night coughing uncontrollably.

    Sorry. I'm bitter.
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    hah, you're the lucky one! You didn't have inflammation for a year afterwards :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by mormoopid
    hah, you're the lucky one! You didn't have inflammation for a year afterwards :P
    .... good point. I take the bastard comment back.
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    it's hurting cause of mechanical issues. Now it's inflammed and the inflammation won't go down.
    Have you tried putting less pressure on the area? Maybe not walking as much for awhile?
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    yeah that's not an option as I have WCB and their friends at physio MAKING me do up to 4 hours of workouts PER DAY 5 times per week.

    I just saw the doctor. I'm having bloodwork done up, the leading candidate is Fibromyalgia, which is a wastebasket diagnosis but at least I'll be able to get a break this way from the clutches of WCB.
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    ok from what I've read since my last post, I am almost certain this is not an autoimmune condition but I am starting to doubt if it is an inflammatory condition.

    If the pain etc does not resolve from antiinflammatories or even steroids then I have doubts that this is an active inflammatory process.

    Your sacroiliitis could be due to your exercise regime.
    The costochondiritis. Could you describe it more with attention to the exact site, character, radiation, its onset and periodicity, duration and anything you feel makes it worse or better.
    As for the phlegm, it may be due to raised stress levels, which can cause bronchodilation and release some normally trapped phlegm.

    Fibrosis is the remnant of a repair process. Without going into the details its basically scar formation after there has been an insult. This insult can be by an inflammatory process as inflammation can cause damage to surrounding tissues.
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    ah.

    Well the costal chondritis I would describe as pain in the lungs. That's really all it was, it hurt to breath in and out.

    I have absolutely zero doubt in my mind that the insane physio regime is making things worse. I can't do anything about it though until I get some diagnosis about it, one way or the other.

    It totally would make sense that it would react to anti inflammatories, but the inflammation I had with the costal chondritis (the inflammation was seen on a contrast CT) wasn't touched by inhaled corticosteroids. infact, my pain increased when I took the steroids.
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    Surely you have had bloodwork to look specifically for autoimmune markers. What did this bloodwork find?
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    it's in the grasp of the alberta health care system now- they took 7 vials of blood, we we'll know in a few days. I just am antsy to know what it is, if anything.
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    a podcast that my roommate showed me claims that research on fibromyalgia recently has indicated two things:

    -There is some brain involvement whereby the brain remembers pain being there so it continues to interpret it that way
    -The radiating nature of it (ie what I have experienced in the last month) are caused by a succession of minor damages or misfirings or SOMETHING to the pain receptor neurons.

    So it's kind of like taking the game of faking and going pro with it, in a way, since fibromyalgia isn't detecetable or testable by any lab standards.

    That's the leading diagnosis I have now, at least until we hear back about the SEVEN FUCKING VIALS OF BLOOD that they took from me.
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    yeah so the forerunner now, in all the pre-results speculation, is ankylosing spondylitis.

    Yeah I even have the genetic part covered off since my grandfather has had a bad back since he was like 25.
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