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  1. #1 MEMORIES ? 
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    Hi guys, I was out shopping yesterday and spotted someone I thought I knew from many years back. It was in fact someone I had been in primary school with over 40 years ago !

    Questions - is memory a biological function ?
    - why could I remember her face after so long BUT not her name ?

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    There were two different types of memory called there: procedural and factual AKA declarative. The first type, is essentially reliving something. Like riding a bicycle or tracking a tennis ball. So you relived the "procedure" of scanning that face & sympathizing with that body language. It clicked. The way you engaged the person. Am I right you would not have recognised the old classmate by still photo alone? The second type of memory, paradoxically hard to retain, is factual. It may be words, pictures, sounds, any kind of information. The difference is that it's apart from your own thinking and doing. It isn't part of you. I reckon these get lost because they're compartmentalized.

    Anecdote: I remember losing my mother in a department store when I was a toddler. A store worker asked me to describe what my mother looked like. I understood the question, and of course I'd know my own mother in a crowd instantly, but I couldn't for the life of me conjure a picture of "what she looked like". I knew her procedurally.

    You can watch little tots in the park track back to their parents. It's funny because they really do track procedurally. So mom sits down on a bench and tot goes exploring: first she follows the pigeon, then creeps along the edge of a sandbox, then scampers to the swings and gets clobbered. Then to locate mama she has to get to the sandbox. Then she looks around for a pigeon... LOL. Just watch, you'll see.


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    Pong, that's easy enough to understand, thanks.

    I have a BIG problem with my 'factual' memory. I just can't remember facts. But routes, places, faces . . . I'm very good at that. So what makes someone adept with factual memory ? Is that down to biological make up ? Can a type of 'brain training' help stimulate the factual memory do you think ?

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    Yeah, some people are "wired" better for factual recall. Autism? :?

    All the memory tricks I've seen essentially hook the facts to procedure, or, similarly, associate items parallel to a repeatable chain, for example "Every Good Boy Deserves Fudge" is mnemonic for the musical notes E G B D F. We're incredibly good at recalling long long chains provided we can reason our way from link to link. And the "reason" needn't follow any external logic, i.e. first thing that comes to mind will do fine.
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    Yes. The temporal lobe contains regions specialized in facial recognition..and the hippocampus stores new memories. Memory involves, therefore, more than one biological function. You probably remember her face because it elicited an emotional reaction in your amygdular system. Remember, it's much easier to remember things with emotional significance attached. I also have trouble with names for some reason..I have worked with the same people for a month and still know no names...I think it's simply because I don't really pay attention to names as much as faces...there are so many people I meet on a daily basis that I can't keep up...
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