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    why do people find it so important to know every little thing about everything?
    especially if it causes things like the crusades to happen


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    Because people are scared, and the more they know the more safer they feel. The brain is our survival now, like physical strength was millenia ago. So instead of always keeping strong by lifting and training, we learn more.

    "No matter how evolved we become, not matter how complicated things may become, at the end of the day, we still are doing what we do, to survive".


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    So instead of always keeping strong by lifting and training, we learn more.
    And thats proably why I won't survive long I keep up more with the physcial than the mental. Though trying to help balence it out.

    why do people find it so important to know every little thing about everything?
    Humans are naterally curious, so I guess you could say it is just in our nature to try and learn as much as we can.

    Hell how do you think the great leaps and bounds in technogly and evolution came about, some one wanted to know something and so they worked untill they found out.
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    but what about all the division and Racism that it causes?

    wouldn't it be better for society to not care?
    i know that religion is really important to some peoples lives and that they tell people how to live, but shouldn't common sense be doing that instead?
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    Theres a LOT more to it than that. The world is not black and white, and it isn't all grey either, there are lots of shades. There is red, green, blue, yellow and all those shades that go with it. People may understand each other, but there is no possible way anyone, in this circumstance.

    If someone believes in something other than you, who are you to tell them what they can and cannot believe in? I thought we lived in a tolerant and equal society .
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    partially

    but there are still all those Christians trying to convert every one and "save" them
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    We all have a sense about us that there is "truth" out there. In our own way we are all trying to find out what that "truth" is. For some its God, for some its Drugs for some its thier Job, Kids, Sex and so on. We are all looking for something that feels true. When people find what they feel is true they want to share that, and thats why people share thier faith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Behr_25
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    but there are still all those Christians trying to convert every one and "save" them
    As there are atheists with theists :wink:.
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    I've yet to have an atheist knock on my door to solicit atheism. I wish that were true for a number of various religious faiths.
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    I find a cheery "god bless" works like a charm and costs me nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Behr_25
    why do people find it so important to know every little thing about everything?
    especially if it causes things like the crusades to happen
    Because of curiosity my friend. I wonder why Pandora open her box.
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    religous bashing agian, the crusades had much less to do with religion than many would think, religion had been abused in order to justify the gethering of resources, as always, also less forced christian conversion has happened throughout history than many believe. in Fact, christianity is growing rapidly today, by means of homegrown influence (no the white man's fault.) ...all meta-narratives and founding myths of our institutions
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    Quote Originally Posted by Behr_25
    why do people find it so important to know every little thing about everything?
    especially if it causes things like the crusades to happen
    It's Human nature to strive to understand the world around you.
    As a whole why wouldn't humanity want to figure out every little detail of why we're here and how we're here. Because if you really think about it, humans and earth and the whole universe is just completely mind boggling.
    Obviously people strive to look for unifying theories, though I doubt when people are looking for new theories and reasons they're thinking about figuring out "every little detail", but every new little realization and breakthrough brings us to a newer and better understanding of just .. EVERYTHING. Making the universe just a little less mind boggling. Or maybe it's personal preferences. Or again it's just in our nature.
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    why do people find it so important to know every little thing about everything?
    especially if it causes things like the crusades to happen


    this is not what caused the crusades
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    Quote Originally Posted by ishmaelblues
    religous bashing agian, the crusades had much less to do with religion than many would think
    I.. don't think I agree with you on that point.

    I'd like to hear your case that the crusades didn't have much to do with religion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 425 Chaotic Requisition
    Because people are scared, and the more they know the more safer they feel. The brain is our survival now, like physical strength was millenia ago. So instead of always keeping strong by lifting and training, we learn more.

    "No matter how evolved we become, not matter how complicated things may become, at the end of the day, we still are doing what we do, to survive".
    Not true

    It has more to do with curiosity than anything else.

    Most animals have it and we have more of it.

    This curiosity is not fear driven as often our curiosity is what leads us into great danger. ie Exploration of unknown and dangerous lands. Curiosity about your personal level of endurance, pain tolerance etc.

    The curiosity is a survival mechanism as you say, as knowledge can increase our chances or that of those who come after us.

    People who are afraid of other people make ZERO effort to know anything about them, they much prefer to just annihilate them. If they took time to 'KNOW' people they would not go to war as they would realise that the similarities between us are great and differences few.

    In the cases when we do take time to find out about our 'enemy' the decision to annihilate them has already been made and finding out more about them is merely a tactic to ensure more effective annihilation. Find their weak spots and so on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Behr_25
    but what about all the division and Racism that it causes?

    wouldn't it be better for society to not care?
    i know that religion is really important to some peoples lives and that they tell people how to live, but shouldn't common sense be doing that instead?
    Knowledge doesn't cause racism, fear does, these are two very different things.

    Fear of less food, less work, and less of everything.

    Fear of the unknown.
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    Knowledge doesn't cause racism, fear does, these are two very different things.

    Fear of less food, less work, and less of everything.

    Fear of the unknown.
    It actually is more about how our brains are constructed and how we perceive reality. We like things to be in groups. And we learn very quickly that grouping things into categories is an effective way of quickly organizing the unlimited amount of variation in our lives. Anything from different types of chairs to different colors of skin.

    And, this is a good thing. It's good to know that a vehicle is a vehicle, even if it looks slightly different than all the other ones you've seen. If we weren't able to quickly classify and organize the visual stimulus of a vehicle into a workable "thought", well, we'd all be killed by vehicles as we gawk at the fast moving funny looking object ahead of us.

    Unfortunately, this organization has "unforeseen" consequences in our modern society. (Evolution. Go figure.)

    So, knowledge really does cause racism.

    Fear causes some prejudice.. that is.. it can cause prejudiced actions that result from stereotypes. But fear doesn't cause stereotypes, our brain is a stereotyping machine. That's how we learn.

    Anyone here who doesn't think they hold stereotypes is lying to themselves. Whether it be stereotypes about people with black skin, or about platforms with four legs sticking out the bottom.
    Zillions of organisms, each under the hypnotic spell of a single truth, all identical and logically incompatible: "My hereditary material is the most important material on Earth. It's survival justifies your frustration, pain, even death." And... you are one of these organisms, living your life in the thrall of a logical absurdity.
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