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    I am just wondering if anyone has truly experienced this or knows someone who has? Wondering if it is a reality......
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    Quote Originally Posted by LadyJava
    I am just wondering if anyone has truly experienced this or knows someone who has? Wondering if it is a reality......
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    Guess I should have maybe given definition to the topic. Synesthesia is the psychological effect in which people experience a crossover in sensory perception such as hearing colors and seeing notes.


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    Well, it can be described as a psychological effect. I had it in my language classes as a language-style. "A cold color", referring to a blue, white color, not a "warm" red color. Of course, colors are observed with our eyes and do not relay temperature.

    The psychological effects, in my experience, are nonsense. Although I am aware that some people, when they feel they are being looked at, and look around, see someone looking at them, I believe is due to the chaos theory.

    Reflections in glass, sound of breath, smelling someone (or perceiving another person's pheromones).. I believe they can all contribute, on a subconscious level to believe someone is near. Than, if you move to look around, that person might also detect you, or detect you movement, and instinctly move. Thus, you spot him looking at you .

    "I will go to great lenghts to disprove anything supernatural" :P.

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    Found a website that might give us more info.

    http://www.mixsig.net/

    Here is a quote from that site

    What is this... synesthesia?
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    Does your favorite book smell like textured circles? Do you think you are the same age as the cerulean blue, steadfast, brotherly, male number 4? Do you dislike the personality of your bedroom’s doorframe? Do you see white when you stub your toe? Does the odor of road tar taste salty? Does Sting's voice look like golden spheres?
    If so, you are almost certainly a synesthete. Synesthesia literally refers to the fact that in some animals, a stimulus in one sense modality involuntarily elicits a sensation/experience in another sense modality. An example of this would be the taste of lemon visually evoking the color blue. The elicited synesthetic experience does not replace the normal experience but instead always adds to it. Synesthetic elicitations are durable, consistent, and discrete, as noted by Dr. Cytowic.
    Other examples of synesthetic experiences people can have, just to name a few, are being able to see sounds — as well as hear them; seeing or "knowing" the colors, sexes, and personalities of letters, numbers, and other symbols; feeling weight and shape on their bodies by just tasting something; and smelling colors.

    The goal of this site, MixSig.net, is to bring synesthetes and non-synesthetes together to learn about this fascinating condition as well as our own persons in the process. Please don't forget to change your bookmarks and links, if you would!
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    When I am around lettuce, or even think about lettuce, my nose starts to itch. I'm pretty sure I'm not allergic to it, I don't think there's anything in it to be allergic to. I also associate personalities with numbers. Does that mean I have a mild case of this synesthesia?
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    I also associate personalities with numbers.
    Really? Can you give an example of that, if a mean person a zero or something?
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    Think that what you meant was; "is" a mean person a zero......
    I think that mean people would be below the zero line......
    Of course when people look at me and think "10", I know that they
    are extremely intelligent! :wink: [/quote]
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    Well, to me...

    0 is a male
    1 is unique
    2 is a child
    3 is creative
    4 is working hard
    5 is a guy
    6 is sexy
    7 is a lady
    8 is an older gentleman
    9 is the ruler of all

    I don't know why, but I just give these numbers personalities. I don't seriously think I have synesthesia, I've just done this since I had to learn multiples in like.. 4th grade? I guess.
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    Under that system, what is the difference between 0 and 5? And don't give me -5, it's not a math question.
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    I really have no idea. It's hard to communicate the personality of a number. I would say that 0 is an adult and 5 is younger than 0. Don't know why though...
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    since when did numbers have personalities?
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    Numbers don't have personalitites, personalitites have numbers. And I think they got them when 2112 had his first acid trip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sploit
    Numbers don't have personalitites, personalitites have numbers. And I think they got them when 2112 had his first acid trip.
    In the fourth grade?! I think not!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2112
    Quote Originally Posted by sploit
    Numbers don't have personalitites, personalitites have numbers. And I think they got them when 2112 had his first acid trip.
    In the fourth grade?! I think not!
    Yah, I don't think most kids have acid trips until at least 9th or 10th grade. Associating numbers with personalities is kind of interesting. Buff needs to read the entire post to get a bit more history on the topic.

    Kind of like Blue is cold, Red is hot, Yellow is warm.
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    2112 had his first acid trip.
    I think you mean her.
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    Why don't everybody write out 0-9 in a column and write down the first thing next to each number as we read them...


    Hey... "If man is 5 and the devil is 6 then that must make me 7..."
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    Hi Everyone,
    Please forgive my intrusion. I am not a synesthete, just a wanna-be.
    I have only discovered this condition in the past couple of years and
    am absolutely fascinated (yes, ok, I'm also pretty envious) by your
    enhanced senses.

    I am in the process of writing a novel, and the main character is a
    synesthete. I wish to portray her perceptions as realistically as
    possible and thus, would like to hear from synesthetes themselves.

    If you would like to help, please answer the following questions, and
    reply to this address: johanna@taooftango.com

    She is both able to hear colors and taste sounds.
    She perceives changes in mood as color
    The vocal quality of people can produce discrete tastes.
    Touching people produces aromas.

    I also wonder if it would be accurate to describe the synesthetic
    images as images us non-synesthetes might see when we rub our eyes
    (kaleidoscopic and geometric forms), or perhaps the afterglow produced
    by gazing at a colored shape or from the flash of a camera.

    And finally, can you envision any situation where you rsynesthesia might warn of danger (please be detailed)?

    Thanks a million,
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    1 - greyish white
    2 - blue
    3 - green
    4 - yellow
    5 - orange-brown
    6 - red/pink
    7 - purple
    8 - gold-brown
    9 - light pink

    I first noticed it when i was 10, i asked my girlfriend 'what color is 2?' She didn't know. How could she not know that 2 is a blue number? :wink:
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    I think the 2112 wasn't the only kids in recess hitin on the acid!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendragon
    1 - greyish white
    2 - blue
    3 - green
    4 - yellow
    5 - orange-brown
    6 - red/pink
    7 - purple
    8 - gold-brown
    9 - light pink

    I first noticed it when i was 10, i asked my girlfriend 'what color is 2?' She didn't know. How could she not know that 2 is a blue number? :wink:
    This is pretty wild, ignore Buff

    Any other things that translate into other things?
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    thanks for the tip :wink:
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    acid? I guess that translates to drugs, well I plead not guilty :wink:

    Well besides numbers I have these associations with letters. Like O=red, S=blue, A=yellow, U=dark red. The associations are fixed, haven't changed since I first noticed it.

    Here's my theory: the mind can remember things by associating them with other things you allready know. It's like the trick of some lawyers who have to give long speeches: attach an association to parts of the text (like first chapter white, second chapter blue). Great way to remember things. The difference is that I get those associations automatically. Maybe my brain thought it would be a good way to remember the alphabet. nice thinking, brain :wink:
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    I've recently discovered that I'm synesthetic, having taken the experiences of it for granted previously (I thought it was normal).

    My first awareness was what most synesthetes have - association of colours with letters and numbers. I'm not a projector in this sense (I don't see the colour on the page, only when I look at the letter or number in my head). Then I realised they also have genders and personalities.

    For example - A is pink, female, and dominant. P is male, dark blue, rich, eccentric. I is white, male, and talketive. L is yellow, female, and for some reason has a strong association with water. Some are neither/both genders - G, O, S, and Y.

    When I hear music, it forms visual patterns of colours and shapes in three dimensional space in my mind, but again, this isn't projecting.

    The most recent aspect of my synesthesia that I've noticed is that If I can see or feel motion - i.e. wiggling my own fingers slowly, or watching someone else do it, or watching people move around on a muted TV, I can hear the movement. I don't know how to describe it exactly, it's quiet, and varies on pitch depending on the nature of the motion and it's distance from me. I always thought I really was hearing it, until I realised, while watching muted TV, I could only hear if I had my eyes open - as soon as I can't see it, I can't hear it. I suppose this is projecting, because it is, to me, a substantial sound.

    So...yeah. That's my experience with synesthesia. Oh, and I'm new to this forum - I joined to post this. Hello.
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    Like O=red, S=blue, A=yellow, U=dark red. The associations are fixed, haven't changed since I first noticed it.
    Is this some universal law that I'm unaware of?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fogwolf
    For example - A is pink, female, and dominant. P is male, dark blue, rich, eccentric. I is white, male, and talketive. L is yellow, female, and for some reason has a strong association with water. Some are neither/both genders - G, O, S, and Y.
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    Like O=red, S=blue, A=yellow, U=dark red. The associations are fixed, haven't changed since I first noticed it.
    Is this some universal law that I'm unaware of?
    It doesn't seem to be universal. :wink: How can A be pink? I do agree on the I though.
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    I think you mean Sacred Geometry, 2 samual 13 "a file for a mattock" is 'pym' Pythagorus. I think you have to know more about the process of metempsychosis to distinguish the seperate polarities of the visual field.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raison Detre
    I think you mean Sacred Geometry, 2 samual 13 "a file for a mattock" is 'pym' Pythagorus. I think you have to know more about the process of metempsychosis to distinguish the seperate polarities of the visual field.
    huh? can you elaborate that? :wink: My guess is that it's all just an unconscious association game (with the same outcome every time).
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    Syneathesia is just one last step prior to the process of metempsychosis, the ability to seperate onself into two entities in two seperate realitie's of time, sacred geometry, or alchemical projection, and predominantly a female skill, and widely used by the ancient Egyptian Queen's, especially Nefertiti.
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    that sounds nice and all, but the problem is that one can probably explain such phenomanae as synesthesia without your theory. Besides, your theory contains several elements which don't sound very falsifiable, such as "to separate oneself", "separate realities of time" etc. But that belongs to the philosophy section :wink:
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    You make me laugh, as if philosophy had nothing to do with the essence of life, and how the first atom became twin's, posative and negative, or rather me and a Hebrew "one from the other side"!
    To get to the point, synaesthetic's is the same as sacred geometry, right hemisphere coherence, and give's the ability to see beyond the normal field of vision, and manifestation of object's in another time and space. the technique has been used for thousand's of year's, and if you succeed in transference of your conscience to the manifested object, then youve performed the same sacred rite of the Grand Architect, that's why it's hard for left dominant hemisphere brain's to comprehend right hemisphere code's in literature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raison Detre
    To get to the point, synaesthetic's is the same as sacred geometry, right hemisphere coherence, and give's the ability to see beyond the normal field of vision, and manifestation of object's in another time and space.
    Can I do that? Sweet! 8) Still, I can't say I'm really convinced by your theories. They don't seem scientific to me. Or can you show me how metempsychoses is a falsifiable concept? (that is, is it possible to show from empirical research that your theory is false? This is a usable criterium to demarcate scientific theories from nonsense).
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    Blimey, your still making me laugh!

    It's easy, what do you see when you look at Da Vinci's The Last Supper? I suppose you see what the majority of left hemisphere dominant's see, Christ seated at a table with 12 other disciple's, but what duel hemisphere's see is something that's not a physical visual concept of life, it's the inside, the working's of 12 muscle's/disciple's, of each eye, and Debire "between the eye's of the Lord" in between the eye muscle's, it's the time gap between two extremities of the magnetic visual spectrum. You can bend light, even with your own eye's, remember Einstein with a pencil! So if you want to see as far as Einstein in the mind's eye, and see from another spectrum field, give a few muscle's a poke, that's if you didn't do it when you were a child, or Polling, spinning on the spot. Children do it all the time, and it's this mode of motion that charge's up the right hemisphere neuron activity, the same as the birth spin when a babies head crown's just before birth, this is when magnetic polarities are established between the hemispere's of the brain. As we get older, we usually retain some right hemisphere knowledge of the birth spin technique, and you'll see children in playground's all over the world spinning on the spot until they're giddy enough to see the world spin when they suddenly stop, that's how children find the gap, and i can prove the same mechanism was used by Any the priest 1250 BC Egypt, resulting in metempsychosis!
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    The ability in our senses, to see, hear etc is the result of neuron pathways in the brain. We have receptors in the various organs of sight, smell and so on, that are transferred and processed in the brain to form a picture of our reality, in the terms of these senses. Our hearing for example, is limited to specific wavelengths, outside which we do not hear. That does not mean that there are no waves outside our hearing, or that other sets of ears cannot hear these. Humans mostly see a consistent reality. Synesthesia occurs when the wiring of the brain between the various areas of the brain has unusual crossovers, causing the sensation of on sense to occur with the interpretation of another. This also applies to other cognitive faculties in the brain. All these systems distil into what we describe as 'reality'.

    The connection to metempsychosis (transmigration of souls) proposed by RD can also be explained by the fact that out of body experiences and the like can be invoked by stimulation of certain parts of the brain. In other words, nothing external except an electrical stimulus is required for us to experience these episodes.

    If however, RD is trying to posit something metaphysical as the cause, that is not the result of brain function, you have as much chance of convincing me as Nefertitty had, back when I was just a mummys boy.
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    You right, we can't dismiss the fact that there are frequencies that the human ear can't decipher, but you fail to see past the normal visual field frequencies also. Even the animal kingdom show's us that our human 20/20 vision is rather immature compared to an owl's night vision, or an eagle's ability to pick up a field mouse from over half a mile in distance during flight. So i think that syneasthesia has bearly been tapped into as regard's to understanding it's ancient link's with sacred geometry, and religion, especially Nefetiti.
    Synaesthesia is predominantly a female ability having more right hemisphere coherence than male's, so maybe that's why science is just catching up with something that's quite normal to the female gender for centuries, and Nefertiti is a prime example of the syneathetic ability to see beyond the normal field's of human vision, it's the same principle that the myth of Chimeara has an ability to change into any animal at will, but it's real interpretation is the ability to access the same visual, and audible spectrum frequencies as the animal itself, which in modern day scientific term's would be metempsychosis and remote viewing.
    The face of Nefertit tell's a lot about Syneasthetic ability, especially the Thutmose bust found in his studio in Amarna. The clue is her whited left eye, which would indicate an enlightened right hemisphere, or rather right hemisphere coherence. If your wondering why her husband, Akhenaten was depicted with a female body, black in colour, with the right eye blackened, is a clear indication that Akhenaten was actually Nefertiti herself, and represented the left hemisphere of the same brain, with the shadow body of Nefertiti. In the ancient day's of Egypt, i suppose it was easy to bury any body in place of someone else, even if they never existed in the flesh. It's easily achievable especially beng a person as politically powerfull as Nefertiti!
    Oh, by the way, I don't really like to boast, but i have Nefertiti's face, my 19 year old son has the same face as William Shakespeare, my 15 year old daughter has the same face as Cleopatra in the luave in Paris, my bother in law the same face as John Donn, and a friend of our's the same face as Charles Algernon Swinburn, but the funniest thing about all these people, is that they all have three thing's in common, poetry, the Cosmos, and the afterlife, so as far as i know, Syneasthesia is a key to reincarnation, and the ability to be right hemiphere coherent is our link to the real brain's in our bodies, the solar plexus.
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    RD,

    but you fail to see past the normal visual field frequencies also. Even the animal kingdom show's us that our human 20/20 vision is rather immature compared to an owl's night vision, or an eagle's ability to pick up a field mouse from over half a mile in distance during flight
    No question about this, and in fact all the senses. I should have said this in my first post, but I assumed that with your acute perceptions you would have picked all this up.

    So i think that syneasthesia has bearly been tapped into as regard's to understanding it's ancient link's with sacred geometry, and religion, especially Nefetiti.
    Blimey, you are not making me laugh. Since this connection seems so obvious to you, why don't you humour us and provide us with the logical connection between these. That should not be too difficult for you?


    but it's real interpretation is the ability to access the same visual, and audible spectrum frequencies as the animal itself, which in modern day scientific term's would be metempsychosis and remote viewing.
    Blimey, I am still not laughing. Metempsychosis (transmigration of souls) and sacred viewing? Help us here, how are these connected to a condition where peoples brains are wired up differently?


    Oh, by the way, I don't really like to boast,
    Then don't, and as far as I recall, there is another name for what you are doing, but it's not boasting.

    Syneasthesia is a key to reincarnation, and the ability to be right hemiphere coherent is our link to the real brain's in our bodies, the solar plexus.
    How does this key work, sensual brain crosswiring and bingo, we have reincarnation? I assume you are talking about manipura, th solar plexus chakra here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raison Detre
    Synaesthesia is predominantly a female ability having more right hemisphere coherence than male's [..]
    A female ability, do you have statistics for that? And where's the link between the right hemisphere and synaestesia? I think this would actually be very hard to proof.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raison Detre
    [..]the myth of Chimeara has an ability to change into any animal at will, but it's real interpretation is the ability to access the same visual, and audible spectrum frequencies as the animal itself, which in modern day scientific term's would be metempsychosis and remote viewing.
    What has a story about a dragon to do with remote viewing? Do you mean there's a real dragon called Chimaera out there, who has some strange ability? What makes you think so?

    Quote Originally Posted by Raison Detre
    The face of Nefertit tell's a lot about Syneasthetic ability, especially the Thutmose bust found in his studio in Amarna. The clue is her whited left eye, which would indicate an enlightened right hemisphere, or rather right hemisphere coherence.
    Either that, or the white eye just means she was blind on one side :wink: Or can you make a solid link between being depicted with a white eye and having an 'enlighted' (what's that?) right side of the brain? Just a wild guess maybe?

    Sorry to be so critical, but hey that's what a science forum is for :wink:
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    The logical connection's your looking for between syaesthetic's and sacred geometry, is really very simple, Merab "multiplication", one of the many Hebrew name's used in Biblical metaphore to relate to the monument of the soul, and the multiplication of that entity into a seperate time and space. You may think this a bit simple, but that's how simple it is to see from an angel of perception that's from where you are not standing.

    It's not that our brain's are wired up differently, we all have the same number of nerve root's in the brain stem, it's how we redirect neuron activity to part's of the brain that are usually not neuron active, thus the right hemisphere, and we all know there's about 84 percent of our brain's that we rarely use, and we all know that the planet is relitively left hemisphere dominant, it's just a question of how do we tap into those extra area's of the brain, and experience the extra sense's produced.

    Ah! Boasting! Psalm 50:3, what a long winded way to say a name for 2 Esdras 7:26!

    The manipura, yoga, Yoke, how far can you bend to cut off the neuron highway in your neck, and cause an implosion of neuron charge within the brain stem? Or rather, a festival of light's in the Aten, or "my yoke is easy, and my burden light", it just depend's on which way you yoke yourself, and the emotional state you're in while performing. The yoga positioning used for centuries and all over the world today, only give's a certain amount of Chackra energy connecting the solar plexus brain with the right hemisphere brain, but one perticular mechanism of yoking, used by Any the priest, 1250 BC Egypt, has a yoga connection, but exceed's the normal positioning of the body in yoga position's, resulting in locking off completely the neuron flow from the neck down to the feet, and known as Polling. There's a picture of Any the priest in The British museum of Ancient Egypt, a papyrus from the Book of the Dead, showing how to achieve the Polling Yoke position, while he is in seperation from his dead body resting in his conoptic chest in procession comming from behind him. If you can get hold of the picture of that perticular papyrus, you'll instantly know what the mechanism look's like, but what it produce's is far beyond the effect's of yoga! The Biblical link to what Any is showing is "Get behind me satan", and relate's to overlapping the optical sense's.

    And yes, it is predominantly a femail trait, research has been going on now for a number of year's now, just look it up on any University research net. I never said that male's can't achieve the same neuron connectvity between the hemisphere's of the brain, its just that male's would rather avoid the connectivity with the subconscious memory conscience area of the right hemisphere that make's them face their guilty memory's!

    And metaphorically in mythology, the Dragon is still the wife!

    How else would Akhenaten have the shape of the body of a women, but also be the depiction of the Shadow of Degree's, the dark side if he wasn't Nefertiti's shadow? He never had any disease that made his body feminin at all, Frohlich's syndrome mean's 'Spring', the Birth Spin Yoke that Any show's in his papyrus. The effect's on the visual sense's is quite astonishing when experienced at a certain emotional level, not only is there an ability to remote view out of body, but also to slow down the visual sense's, making the world around oneself to appear as if time itself has stood still, when infact the visual sense's have actually speeded up, even Jacob in Genesis 32; goes through the same process of seperation, and name's the place of this occurance with two distinct spelling's 'Penuel' and 'Peniel', you just have to work out the visual difference's between yourself, and your soul!

    What do you expect to see if your own soul came face to face with you?
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    The logical connection's your looking for between syaesthetic's and sacred geometry, is really very simple, Merab "multiplication", one of the many Hebrew name's used in Biblical metaphore to relate to the monument of the soul, and the multiplication of that entity into a seperate time and space. You may think this a bit simple, but that's how simple it is to see from an angel of perception that's from where you are not standing.
    Simple does not describe this at all. I would say assumptive works better. Where is the logical connection between neural wiring and multiple souls? (assuming you can argue the case for a single soul per mind?)

    It's not that our brain's are wired up differently, we all have the same number of nerve root's in the brain stem, it's how we redirect neuron activity to part's of the brain that are usually not neuron active, thus the right hemisphere, and we all know there's about 84 percent of our brain's that we rarely use
    I do not think the issue is around the number of nerve roots in the stem, perhaps you mean neurons. My impression is NOT that people have the same number as everyone else, but that each person is born with a fixed number of neurons. The critical factor is the interconnection. The more connections, the better utilised (and conscious) our neuron power becomes.

    Your comment about the yogic positions makes arduous reading, however it seems like you are stating the same unargued claim of brain wiring links to separate souls/lives. Can you argue this in a reasoned way instead of only making the claim?

    its just that male's would rather avoid the connectivity with the subconscious memory conscience area of the right hemisphere that make's them face their guilty memory's
    Speak for yourself paleface, they never convicted me. What on earth are you saying here?

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    Well, if your soul's got a view out of your arse, then you don't know about "Boy-boy's butt-shaft" = Shaft-Spur = Duel pineal polarity vortex ignition, obviously it's going to be hard for you to remember how you first Polled yourself, ie; polarity charged both hemisphere's of your brain during your birth into this world from between your mother's leg's! A state of Amarna, or metaphorically, the Oedipus connection where both hemisphere's of the brain are equally charged during birth.
    This is where the critical factor of interconnection between both hemisphere's during a lifetime is forgotton about, and where Synaesthesia hold's those connective code's in a visual, and audible field, almost completely opposite to the dominant left hemisphere field's, rather like a third eye or ear, akin to Mozart, a 'something in between' two extremities connection that require's a knowledge of a singular spectrum of tone, colour, space and time memory, the same principle's used in the ancient Egyptian process of Alchemical Projection, the ability to make copy's of ourselve's, or soul's in another time polarity.
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    Hi RD,

    I am now getting the gist of where you are going with this.

    Boy-boy's butt-shaft" = Shaft-Spur = Duel pineal polarity vortex ignition, obviously it's going to be hard for you to remember how you first Polled yourself, ie; polarity charged both hemisphere's of your brain during your birth into this world from between your mother's leg's! A state of Amarna, or metaphorically, the Oedipus connection where both hemisphere's of the brain are equally charged during birth.
    A number of desublimations concerning a self-referential reality are being revealed here with a semioticist paradigm of consensus or preclusion of polarities between the hemispheres (in the sense of truth or its facsimile), given that consciousness is equal to reality. Therefore, the subject is interpolated into a Amarna deappropriation that includes consciousness as a whole. This of course assumes bicarpal decrilling occurs between the hemispheres without synesthesia being indicatory.

    This is where the critical factor of interconnection between both hemisphere's during a lifetime is forgotton about, and where Synaesthesia hold's those connective code's in a visual, and audible field, almost completely opposite to the dominant left hemisphere field's, rather like a third eye or ear, akin to Mozart, a 'something in between' two extremities connection that require's a knowledge of a singular spectrum of tone, colour, space and time memory, the same principle's used in the ancient Egyptian process of Alchemical Projection, the ability to make copy's of ourselve's, or soul's in another time polarity.
    Absolutely agree. Synesthesia is also intrinsically used in the service of archaic perceptions of sexual identity and spectral decomposition where souls transcend material concensus; however, according to Sargeant , it is not so much Chakric structures being is intrinsically used in the service of archaic perceptions of polarity, but rather the meaninglessness, and subsequent stasis, of reverise vortices, culpiling hemispheres is a mythopoetical paradox.

    Baudrillardist simulacra is the common ground between the soul and synesthesia, in the sense that perception allows for knowing of those things that are unknowable and perhaps not existant in the subtext of conciousness as we know it.

    Like you said in an earlier post - its simple. Now we are laughing.
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    Well, like i said earlier, i'm just a layman comming from the other side, it's your science i'm trying to connect with on common ground, and as much as i've experienced of varying visual field's, it's synaesthesia that hold's more information relating to the ancient Egyptian process of Alchemical Projection via the magnetic spectrum, a process of projecting an image of the self relate's to the Hermatic Text, "making a copy of the Sky" is the expansion of the visual field's process.
    The Amarna state of polarity consciousness is the same depiction given in Da vinci's The last supper, the Baker's dozen seated at the table show's 6 muscle's for each eye, and Christ, or Debir "between the eye's of the Lord" in the middle, the visual overlap point. What you have to work out is the position of the body that relate's to each person seated at the table as being a tensive action of a perticular muscle of each eye, and if you know anything about the plate's of the face like Aristotle, then you'll find the position of the body that give's access to the alternative spectrum field's, and believe me, the birth-spin mechanism is as simple as De javu, you've already experienced this ignition process during your own birth, and it's easily reactivated as depicted Any the priest in his Book of the Dead papyrus. The only thing is, i'm not so sure about pineal gland's that have had year's of calcification, so unless you've kept up some kind of heavey duty yoga from childhood, then it's going to be harder to achieve activation, and the level of melatonin may be excessive.
    Each Chakra relate's to a perticular glandular system, aligning the physical frame in certain yoga position's activate's these glandular system's, but usually only two, or three system's are activated during yoga exercise. But what Any is showing is the complete Chakra connectivity of all the system's in one movement of the physical frame akin to the birth-spin, so it's most likely easier if your a yoga fanatic.
    Have you ever read The First and Second Chronicals of Thomas Covenant, Stephen Donaldson, his work is full of nerve stretching yoga exersion's of the frame of the body, the Staff of Lore, that result's in parallel visual field's through the manipulation of the spinal cord. He's continually alternating between visual field's, and descibe's implosion sequencies in such detail that his work's are extending the alternate visual field time. These alternate visual field's last for just 1/24 of a second, a single image taken by the lense of the eye like a photograph, it's like "a day on earth is a thousand year's to the Lord" time scale difference, so it's the speed of the visual sense's that can be manipulated to gain alternate visual field's.
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    Not to throw a damper on all the esoteric speculations, but here's something more concrete for you all to play with:

    Rare but Real: People Who Feel, Taste and Hear Color
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    Smilek and colleagues have identified two groups of synesthetes among those who associate letters and numbers with colors, he explained in a telephone interview. For individuals in one group, which Smilek calls "projector" synesthetes, the synesthetic color can fill the printed letter or it can appear directly in front of their eyes, as if projected onto an invisible screen. In contrast, "associate" synesthetes see the colors in their "mind’s eye" rather than outside their bodies.

    In Carey’s case, the colors appear in quick flashes right behind her eyes, blinking in and out of existence as quickly as ocean foam. Other times they linger, coalescing and dividing like sunlight on the surface of a soap bubble.
    Hard to imagine what that second group really experiences. I fall into the first category: I don't really see the colours, I just have a very strong association with them.
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    It lies in the speed of the visual field's, the faster your eye's pick up spectral light, the more you see, that's why it's reported to be in the mind's eye because it's not picked up in the normal speed of visual sense's.
    We all have the same ability to pick up the faster visaul field's, one author who persistently write's about these field's is Stephen Donaldson, The Chronical's of the Thomas Covenant. What he describe's is the full process of metempsychosis, splitting oneself in two, the body and the soul, although the actual process of metempsychosis last's for about 1/24 of a second , he write's in a metaphorical stretching time form so that your sub-conscious memory pick's it up, the name Thomas mean's twin's the same as Edom, Micah in the Old and New Testament.
    So what catagory would you give a synaesthetic with the ability to remote view while the rest of the world stand's still, ie; Time leaping!
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    I must have sparked some interest in Stephen Donaldson's book's?

    Anyway, The ancient Egyptian's knew a huge ammount of the knowledge of what science today call's Synaesthsia, they associated these abilities with the sun, and the rainbow, representing light, and colour in the visual field's, and the ability to manipulate these field's using the original form of the meaning of the Alchemical Projection process, which relate's to the process of metempsychosis, by projecting another self from the self, making yourself into twin's, Edom, Micah, Thomas, Doubt in the mind's eye, which is what Da Vinci is showing you in The Last Supper, the argument between the eye's, and Debir ''between the eye's of the Lord'' in it's original Hebrew/Chaldee terminology.
    Each disciple seated either side of Jesus, represent's a muscle, one of six in each eye, with Jesus representing the connective 'eliment between'!Ever heard of a 'baker's dozen' thirteen, Rufus, R-U-4-Us, ''half a dozen of one, six of the other, and not a lot between''? Your looking at the inside of Da Vinci's front opical lobe, which indicate's inflexion of the lense of one eye to reverse the iris, and retina process, it's why you see ancient Egyptian eye's painted flat in their artwork's indicating the umberella lense in full inflexion, showing how to see inside the mind's eye at will via expanding the lense itself!
    Diego Valazquez' Christ in the kitchen of Mary and Martha, also show's the projection process with an old Martha leaning over a youthful Mary's right shoulder (solar plexus nerve root), in the main frame of the scene, and an older Mary standing in support behind at a short distance from a youthful Martha conversing with Christ in the second framed picture hung on the wall in the kitchen, indicating the exchange of polarities between light and dark, and also time.
    A painting portray's just one moment in time, and considering that in one lifetime the visual senses pick up billion's of particle's of light running at a set speed in through the eye, you can see the origin's of subliminal imaging in our world of marketing for profit (Pavlov), within our tv visual world's today when a flash of a double chocolate fresh cream sponge during the intermission set's you off on a serotonin hunt around the kitchen cuboard's for a quick fix from the 'eye's are bigger than the belly' rush!
    Anyway, what i'm getting at is 'that moment' of visual light in time when the spliting of the self in two, and the projected image of the self occure's, and the way that Valaquez portray's the metempsychosis process in his painting is showing a moment in time, coupled inside another moment in time, the Dutch Doll's techique, or the ancient Egyptian's Duat projection process, a little space in time compacted into another little space in time. One of another Valazquez' painting of a King, i forget which one, looking at himself in a mirror, also relate's to the metempsychosis process in relation to the twin self eliment, which is in Genesis 32; where Jacob's wrestle's with himself, meet's God ''face to face'', ie; the soul energy from the projected lifeform, then spell's the name of the place of occurance with a name twice with two distinctive spelling's, to show where a distinction occure's between the two, the body of flesh, and the body of the identical soul, or Ka, a Ba is the opposite polaity shadow of ourselve's, like Nefertiti's Huband Akhenaten, in streched form.
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    What would you classify the numbers if you had to give them a sex?
    I'd say:
    1 - male
    2 - female
    3 - female
    4 - male
    5 - male
    6 - female
    7 - male
    8 - male
    9 - male
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    1 -white
    2- pale blue
    3- green
    4- brownish
    5- red
    6- a dark color
    7- yellow
    8- dark green
    9- brown
    10- translucent gray

    A- red
    B- blue
    C- yellow
    D- dark green
    E- white
    F- lime green
    G- dark green
    H- light orange
    I- white
    J- light green
    K- purplish
    L- light green
    M- red
    N- orangeish brown
    O- clear
    P- purple
    Q- indigo
    R- purple
    S- yellow
    T- orange
    U- gray
    V- greenish gray
    W- white
    X- no color associated
    Y- pale yellow
    Z- orange-yellow

    I also put colors to certain sounds and scents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by larali View Post
    I also put colors to certain sounds and scents.

    You are a new member here, so your reply might be excusable.
    However, I must inform you that necro-posting (i.e. resurrecting old threads that have not received replies for a long time) is frowned upon by the SF community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cogito Ergo Sum View Post
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    I also put colors to certain sounds and scents.

    You are a new member here, so your reply might be excusable.
    However, I must inform you that necro-posting (i.e. resurrecting old threads that have not received replies for a long time) is frowned upon by the SF community.
    Oh ok, thanks for letting me know.
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    As this thread is active again I will add that, despite some of the apparent mystical bollocks above, synaesthesia is definitely a thing. Ramachandran has done some interesting work in this and related areas: Vilayanur S. Ramachandran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    And for those who want a more informal approach, I recommend this episode of SciShow:
    Hearing Colors, Seeing Sounds: Synesthesia - YouTube
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    Interesting, I never knew there is a thread on this here. I have a mild form of synesthesia myself - I associate weekdays with colours ( Monday = maroon red, Tuesday = leaf green,... ), months of the year with spatial positions in a square ( July = top right corner etc. ), and also entire words and names with colours ( e.g. "dog" feels like a light but rich brown to me ). It does not work with isolated letters and numbers for me though, only with whole words. I can assure you that this phenomenon is quite real - in fact I never knew that this is in any way special until my teenage years, when I realised that other kids around me don't perceive things the same way !
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