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    I keep seeing references to some kind of Emo subculture, but it seems a broad and vague term. Could someone explain me what this means? Is it an abbreviation of something?

    Maybe I'm already becoming too old to really understand youth sub cultures :wink:


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    Emo is basically short for emotional. It's definitely a very broad term, and will probably have slightly different meanings depending on who you talk to. In general, though, it's a label adopted by angsty teens and college students who enjoy wallowing in the unfairness of life. Thus the popular phrase, "Cheer up, emo kid."


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    Or the now somewhat common joke, "I wish my grass was emo so it would cut itself." This idea of wallowing in self pity has permiated the popular media of our culture, and I don't neccisarily think that it is a fault of media, but that many young people seem to enjoy this idea of masochism.

    I love movies and music, but it seems in the last 10 years or so too much masochism or "emo culture" is being represented.
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    Emo culture has its own music genre as well as its own style of dress. It's a subculture, not any kid who cuts himself. That said, emo kids are the most hated group around since the slan. Although emo's do not possess superior iq, the ability to read minds or tendrils growing out of their head.
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    A bit like Kurt Cobain, that type of person? I guess the combination of 'non-conformist', 'depressed', "retreat from society" has existed for quite a while in the alternative scene, maybe it just got a new name.

    In a way it's interesting how certain lifestyles, music styles and even clothing can become so strongly associated with eachother. As if you can't associate with one part of it, without accepting the other parts of the subculture that are connected to it. But recently I saw a docu about life in Beijing, and at some point they interviewed a girl in 'gothic style' clothing (that's part of Emo subculture, right?) who said her favourite music is Britney Spears and the Backstreet Buys
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendragon
    But recently I saw a docu about life in Beijing, and at some point they interviewed a girl in 'gothic style' clothing (that's part of Emo subculture, right?) who said her favourite music is Britney Spears and the Backstreet Buys
    . I'm guessing though that she was rebelling (emo style) from the Chinese culture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pendragon
    A bit like Kurt Cobain, that type of person? I guess the combination of 'non-conformist', 'depressed', "retreat from society" has existed for quite a while in the alternative scene, maybe it just got a new name.

    In a way it's interesting how certain lifestyles, music styles and even clothing can become so strongly associated with eachother. As if you can't associate with one part of it, without accepting the other parts of the subculture that are connected to it. But recently I saw a docu about life in Beijing, and at some point they interviewed a girl in 'gothic style' clothing (that's part of Emo subculture, right?) who said her favourite music is Britney Spears and the Backstreet Buys
    goths and emo overlap a little bit, especially in style of dress, but they can be fairly different from each other. goths tend to be into more fantasy type things like vampires and demons and other creatures of the night. they often involve some kind of suffering as well, but for emo kids that's the focus.
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13mZCQwieCE

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    Kurt cobain was grunge. Seattle post-hardcore. I think you'll find goths have a severe hatred for emos. I heard a goth once describe emo kids so... 'cry, cry, cry, daddy doesn't give me attention. Mommy still does my hair. I'm going to go cut myself and write in my journal with kitten blood'
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    Growing up in post war Britain we were too poor to afford a sub-culture.
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    Aye lad, an extra lump of coal on't fire and a slice of bread and dripping and we were content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunbury
    Aye lad, an extra lump of coal on't fire and a slice of bread and dripping and we were content.
    Same in India, mate, when I was there (as also in good ol' Shepherd's Bush when I visited last! :P ). Thank goodness for university, eh, and the chance to get into the drugs sub-culture at least...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophiolite
    Growing up in post war Britain we were too poor to afford a sub-culture.
    More or less the same here. I'm fortunate to have been born in the 1950's. Our perspective of entitlement and materialism is light years away. That of our parents in the 1930's and War years is even more light years away.

    An aside: Yesterday I went into Walmart to buy a $1.99 am/fm radio. They used to have them hanging on a rack by the check out counter. I couldn't find one so I asked a young clerk where they had moved the transistor radios. She said 'the what?' and took me to some Ipod thingies. I tried to explain that I wanted a small AM radio with a headphone... she said 'I never heard of that....you mean you can walk and can listen to the radio?
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