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  • Superhuman

    3 21.43%
  • Substantial

    2 14.29%
  • Impressive

    5 35.71%
  • Above Average

    1 7.14%
  • Average

    2 14.29%
  • Blow Average

    0 0%
  • Inadequate

    0 0%
  • Pathetic

    0 0%
  • Just Die Now

    1 7.14%
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Thread: Your capabilities.

  1. #1 Your capabilities. 
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    I put this in the Behavioral & Social Sciences thread for a reason, as the results will dictate whether or not most of the forum falls into the "Lake Wobegon" effect. As well as the overconfidence effect. This will also test the Worse-than-average effect.

    How? First, it will tell us whether the majority of this forums population think they are above average. Second, if most believe they are then it is also an overconfidence effect. Lastly, if by a small chance (Forums are made of ego's, I expect nobody to pick very far into the "worse than average" section) people do choose worse than average, or below, more than most...well, "worse-than-average effect".

    That in mind, you must now all vote to decide how good your abilities are. This is, essentially, rating the worth of your life. From "Just die now", to "superhuman".

    Therefore, it is imperative that the entire forum partake in this poll.

    ----EDIT----

    This poll is meant to only consider the forum population, and attitudes within it. Ignoring everything else. It judges averages relative to the forum population.


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    Second, if most believe they are then it is also an overconfidence effect.

    This is not true, nor are the other conclusions you suggest can be drawn from this poll. The population of posters in this forum is not a random sampling, for starters. Further, the sample size is *far* too small for anyone to ever care what the results are.
    For either of those reasons then, for example, it might be perfectly plausible and accurate that most people answer in the above average category.
    That's not to say it might not be interesting to see what people say, just that the results will mean absolute squat.


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    Mental, physical or both ?
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    Im so good..I impress myself sometimes.

    As someone once said.."it ain't bragging if it's true"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neutrino
    This is not true, nor are the other conclusions you suggest can be drawn from this poll.
    It never fails that some specific asshole will try to school you on how "science works".

    The results that can be drawn from this poll are namely user specific. But it also gives a general idea of what the forum population thinks of itself. If everyone on the forum is "above average", that says something about how they categorize themselves.

    The conclusions I say can be drawn still apply, since those that claim to be above-average are normally over confident. If most people on this forum think they are above average, it will become the Lake Wobegon effect.

    The population of posters in this forum is not a random sampling, for starters. Further, the sample size is *far* too small for anyone to ever care what the results are.
    Who said I wanted a random sample? I wanted this forum, nothing further.

    Nor, for that matter, do I require a large sample size for the goal which I wanted to achieve.

    One last thing, is that you're completely missing the aspect here. What you said is like saying any poll taken when the earths population is at 1000 is far too small to matter. Despite the fact you included 100% of the population.
    Since this poll only concerns this forum, I expect at least 50% return. That's more, statistically, than any study ever gets.

    It seems, Neutrino, that you're just confused.

    EDIT: Cat, EVERYTHING. Mental, physical, "other", whichever.

    EDIT 2: It appears I conveyed myself improperly. This poll is a question of average intelligence relative to the forum population. It's supposed to ignore everything but this forum. Happy now?
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    Well, unfortunately you don't really know anything about statistics. Kind of ironic considering the topic of this poll.
    The fact that the population is small doesn't really matter. If you have a population of 1 million or 100 billion, a sample size of 5000 will yield the same margin of error.
    Even if you had great turnout, your margin of error would be so huge as to make the results fairly meaningless.
    Second, regarding the random sample. One, your question doesn't ask how people view their abilities in comparison with other members of the forum - without the specifier I think the safest assumption is you mean how do we view ourselves compared to the general population.
    If you meant how do we view ourselves compared to the forum regulars or some such, stating that might be helpful. If you really did mean how do we view our abilities in comparison to the general population, then you again have the problem that members of the science forum are not exactly a random sample of the general population.
    There's also the fact that when polling you really do need a random sample in the sense of...people who choose to respond to the poll might have a predisposition one way or the other. Maybe people who feel like they have less than par abilities would shy away from answering, which would bias your results.
    That's why when you get a phone call from a survey group and you refuse, they call you back over and over until you explicitely ask to be removed from their list - that's because it's important that you, the random selection, answer their questions.
    So like I said, at best it's interesting to see how people respond. The actual "results" are completely useless.
    I won't even mention the 1-9 scale ranging from "die now" to "superhuman". (Well I sort of just did mention it I suppose)
    Last, you have this habit of calling people assholes. You might get banned (justly) if you keep behaving like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neutrino
    Second, regarding the random sample. One, your question doesn't ask how people view their abilities in comparison with other members of the forum - without the specifier I think the safest assumption is you mean how do we view ourselves compared to the general population.
    Actually, it doesn't matter in this case. Since it's important for this poll that people define themselves. If I were to limit how they could define themselves, I wouldn't get their own personal view. This isn't a cold-cut and cruel statistic.

    There's also the fact that when polling you really do need a random sample in the sense of...people who choose to respond to the poll might have a predisposition one way or the other. Maybe people who feel like they have less than par abilities would shy away from answering, which would bias your results.
    Most likely. But all results get some sort of bias, and since it's a non-official forum poll, I don't think it matters. Splicing a hair doesn't make the hair much more important.

    Aside from that, I get the results either way. People that commonly post will most likely answer, and those are the only chunk of the forum populace that really matter in the analysis. For example, where would you class yourself in that list?

    So like I said, at best it's interesting to see how people respond. The actual "results" are completely useless.
    To someone who isn't planning to be a psychology major, maybe. The poll is fine for what I intended it to be. Prior to your long-winded invasions, of course. By now I'm certain everyone is too distracted by the flashy displays to answer the poll.

    I won't even mention the 1-9 scale ranging from "die now" to "superhuman". (Well I sort of just did mention it I suppose)
    Wasn't it obvious that I wasn't serious about the extremes of the spectrum? I personally put myself into "Die Now" as a joke. Everyone that does so is most likely in the average spectrum (As I would class myself), given the predicted train of thought that would lead one to do so. Of course, that's all estimation.

    I base this on both myself, and one other poster I'm certain voted "superhuman". I meant it as a leeway for the more humorous members, and it apparently worked.
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    you couldn't add a 'Variable' category ? or 'Patchy' ?
    "Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." (Philip K. Dick)
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    That would have made things a bit too elastic. Though I suppose I should have, since those who can't class themselves are left out.

    Well, just state your own if you can't fit yourself into the poll answers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremyhfht
    Quote Originally Posted by Neutrino
    This is not true, nor are the other conclusions you suggest can be drawn from this poll.
    It never fails that some specific asshole will try to school you on how "science works".
    Let's keep it civil.
    Jeremy, the poll is interesting as a means of generating discussion, but any conclusions that might be drawn from it are, as Neutrino suggests, likely to be highly questionable at best.
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    you both miss my already attempted description of what I can accurately pull from the results. Or could have, since apparently nobody is taking the poll anymore.

    I did not need you, Ophiolite, to increase the hostile wall by taking sides. That isn't exactly your job if you're going to try and "settle things down", now is it? Did you even read all of my posts, or are you just taking sides for the fun of it? You should, at least, partake in discussion if you disagree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremyhfht
    you both miss my already attempted description of what I can accurately pull from the results.
    And I, not wearing my moderators hat, doubt that you would be able to do what you claimed. Specifically your statement "The conclusions I say can be drawn still apply, since those that claim to be above-average are normally over confident. If most people on this forum think they are above average, it will become the Lake Wobegon effect. " is an opinion, not a logical assertion.
    I did not need you, Ophiolite, to increase the hostile wall by taking sides.
    Be absolutely clear that I am taking sides as an individual inasmuch as I believe your confidence in what could be extracted from such a poll is badly misplaced.
    Be equally clear that in asking you to be civil I am exercising my current duty as a moderator and I am not taking sides.....Other than the side that supports civil behaviour on the forum.
    Did you even read all of my posts, or are you just taking sides for the fun of it? You should, at least, partake in discussion if you disagree
    I read your posts. I found nothing personally worth responding to. I have not taken sides. Please be good enough to end this here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophiolite
    is an opinion, not a logical assertion.
    One which I had set out to prove was logical. What's wrong with that?

    Be absolutely clear that I am taking sides as an individual inasmuch as I believe your confidence in what could be extracted from such a poll is badly misplaced.
    Psychology major, Oph. I pride myself on being "above average" in at least being able to analyze the mind of another. Trust me, I can extract some valid data from the would-be results, had they gotten the outcome I'd expected (instead of a pathetic few votes).

    Since, however, I haven't really gotten any kind of return other then argumentative responses, I've not really been able to ascertain much at all. Pity really. Failed attempt, onto the next. I do, however, thank you for clarifying on a few things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremyhfht
    ... I pride myself on being "above average" in at least being able to analyze the mind of another. ...
    you'll notice that you have to qualify your statement about being above average by pointing out in what respect you consider yourself to be above average

    human beings are so variable in their make-up that anyone can be above average in something and below par in other respects

    if you're not sure what it is that you're measuring, then it's going to be hard to come to any conclusions whatsoever, never mind the limitations of statistics and how to apply them properly
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    Even if, by chance, you are "Pathetic" or "Just die now" I see no reason to vote that way. To vote oneself as a failure is to accept oneself as a failure. Sure, it may be honest. but what is the point.

    To be "Just die now" and to vote as "Superhuman" can be seen as a strive for excellence. I don't think the statistical results would be meaningless but even if they were, It is still an encouraging poll.

    The only reason I didn't vote is because my category is not listed.


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    Averge compared to the general population This poll hopefully get a bit more voters
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    witness my superhuman arti skillz!! taah...



    it might not be THE best, but its not long before i reach god-like arts abilities,
    from my young life.
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    Of...all...but...he...how...it...bwuh...

    Okay, I'll admit, that is something along the lines of superhuman. :?
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    i put superhuman and id love to think so but the reality is I'm probably just above average :? i can settle though
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