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  1. #1 Nice Guys Finish Last - Yes or No? 
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    It's a poll.


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    Seems women go for the bad boys but in reality they simply go for their misconceived ideas of what a man is. If women took the time to understand men they would end up being happier in the long run.

    Stop going for the bad boys and stop trying to mold the others into a pseudo woman. Let them be men for God's sake.


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    I am a woman, and with all this womans lib crap, women have made fools of themselves.
    Men are to cautious to approach women for fear of over stepping the boundaries and women are up themselves.

    We are all people, let just get on with it, and grow up
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caliban
    I am a woman, and with all this womans lib crap, women have made fools of themselves.
    Men are to cautious to approach women for fear of over stepping the boundaries and women are up themselves.

    We are all people, let just get on with it, and grow up
    Will you marry me lol.

    I have for a long while blindly believed in equality, yet the reality is even the most "open minded" of women still falls back of archaic notions.

    My main quarrel with women is on this matter and feel it is the heart of social/marital disfunction.

    I think the "good guys finish last" centiment focuses on the notion that women are the fundermental axis that men orbit around.

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    im a "nice guy" and i always finish last. and i could never understand why women wouldnt want someone whos nice. why would they want someone who treats them like crap?
    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans." - John Lennon
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    It's a definite yes. Take, for example, this ED article:

    http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Friend_Zone

    Aside from that, it all boils down to pheromones. Women will normally go for the "bad asses" because they're stronger, and have pheromones that the female is attracted to. Or they have more commanding allures that women seem attracted to.

    All in all, I am personally a "nice guy". And most of my friends are female. You can be certain that a "nice guy" never gets anywhere. since I watch my female friends go for the "bad-asses" all the time.

    Also, most women will even date a man they'd normally KILL. Simply because they "trust him" by default. Pheromones. Women can't resist.
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    Just like any animal we are trying to make ourselves look as good and appealing as we can. Thats why we wear makeup, spray ourselves with deodorant, get our hair cut, etc etc. It's been my experience down the years that bad asses are just cowedly little shits who wouldn't say boo to a 9 year old kid unless they have 5 of their mates standing behind them. I'm sure that eventually most women see bad asses for what they really are. Nice guys finish first in the end.
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    Please don’t bring up Buss, Please don’t bring up Buss. (That crap research line needs to be discredited) And if you don’t know why his work is false, then go read his articles and try to find the gaping hole (hint: forced choices)
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    There are different types of women:

    1. The type which will have a man, any man in their life because, that makes them feel as though they are doing what everyone else is doing.
    This type of woman usually has low self esteem, and only values themselves on the fact that they have a man.
    This type of woman usually attracts the type of man who is going to treat them bad, because the woman only values the status not the relationship.
    It a cycle, and a lot of women do it.

    2. Another type of woman is the reasonably successful, and by all appearances looks like a good catch, however because they have low self esteem they attract and expect to be treated like a dogs breakfast. They don't value themselves, and they need someone to look after them.

    This look after syndrome is an issue for half the women population.

    3. Another type of woman is the self asserted, independent woman, who probably gets a worthwhile man and could have a good relationship. However she continually tries to sabotage the relationship, with this demeaning type of control, which results in her being boss and him compiling.
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    well im looking for the 4th type- the one that doesnt do it for the status, doesnt like being treated like crap, and doesnt like being the boss but as an equal partner. hmmmm.
    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans." - John Lennon
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    There are some, not many but some.
    Some relationships work very well but you have to be the right kind of people for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Lord Sidious
    well im looking for the 4th type- the one that doesnt do it for the status, doesnt like being treated like crap, and doesnt like being the boss but as an equal partner. hmmmm.
    Too bad I'm already married.
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    Well I'm 39...and this sure ain't my first rodeo...but I'll never understand why women go for bad boys. I can understand the short-term stimulation of walking on the wild side..but I don't get why they stay with some douche bag who treats them like shit.

    I guess bad boys get laid...nice guys get married.
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    amen
    "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans." - John Lennon
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    Quote Originally Posted by MacGyver1968
    Well I'm 39...and this sure ain't my first rodeo...but I'll never understand why women go for bad boys. I can understand the short-term stimulation of walking on the wild side..but I don't get why they stay with some douche bag who treats them like shit.

    I guess bad boys get laid...nice guys get married.
    no, the bad boys straighten up, become "nice guys", then get married. The original nice guys commit suicide because everybody tramples on them.
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    nice guys never get sum cos they for for trophies, not women.
    try laying some of the uglier women. they usually have the same problems as nice guys.
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    Who knows why "trashy" women do what they do...? But intelligent women, I believe, would rather have a man who's "got his shit together." At least this is what I've been told by a few women. Seems to fit why I usually see butt-ugly men with totally hot women. What do the ugly men have to offer? Perhaps it's because they are confident and have their shit together....

    So my advice...
    Never be a "bad guy," but a little mystery wouldn't hurt. And be confident and get your shit together. Heck... even I don't want a loser for a friend let alone a mate....

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    I think you're asking the wrong question.

    Shouldn't it be: Why are men or women attracted by the superficial?

    Men are just as guilty as women on this score.
    Immature men are attracted to looks and body types.
    Immature women are attracted to power, looks and status.

    The qualities people look for are a reflection of their maturity rather than their chronological age.
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    Well put and welcome to Science forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scpg02
    Well put and welcome to Science forum.
    Thankyou for the welcome.
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