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  1. #1 What is the penultimate justice for any harm done ? 
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    I have had this notion for a while on justice and revenge.

    Is remorse the highest achievable form of vengeance ? From the recipiŽnt side. This is not taking info account any feelings of gratification one might feel from the suffering of the oposing party.

    Say we would have the ability to know that a criminal has sincearly understood the error of his ways and is deeply remorsefull of his actions, wouldnít that take away the need of the opposing party for vengeance ?

    person a kills person b
    after this happens person a is in deel remorse over his actions, he now knows what he has done. Now lets say for the sake of argument that the family of person b has a way of knowing bevond doubt what person a feels.
    wouldnít this be the highest form of vengeance achievable ?


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    I once met an engineer who said he worked for a company called Penultimate Designs, or some such name. I asked him who was Number One in his field. He didn't get it. Like you, I suggested he look up the word. He was embarrassed. The founder was Dutch, so that guy had an excuse. But the fellow I met was American-born, American-educated.
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    ...No.
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    The highest form of vengeance is undoubtedly to reform the wrong doer**.That and to refuse to be contaminated by the mindset of the aggressor.

    Exemplary and deterrent sanction is another subject ,as is(are?) crimes against the English language .

    Here's hoping I have not shot myself in the foot....

    **which cannot be effected externally.

    EDIT: I see this is a bit "necro"...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bioazer View Post
    ...No.
    I think you're over elaborating, do you think you could break that response down for us?

    Say we would have the ability to know that a criminal has sincearly understood the error of his ways and is deeply remorsefull of his actions, wouldn’t that take away the need of the opposing party for vengeance ?
    As the second worse option? No, could be faked. You may think a remorseful murderer should be granted amnesty or freedom but I wouldn't want him to have another remorseful episode later, if you know what I mean. I prefer instant karma but that isn't always possible.
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    justice being morally correct reasonable action, in case of a murder is to punish the killer by said law

    vengeance is just retribution so its relative to relationship the guy who takes vengeance and for what act is he taking it for,

    my vengeance for x killing y is probably to post a complaint against the police for not being vigilant or security not working or not providing y with a gun to defend.

    but if i am related to y then my vengeance will vary from inflicting equal loss to x to erasing x's existence if possible, lmao

    so my opinion is reformation or remorse of wrong doer is justice and not vengeance
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