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  1. #1 What is the point of sport ? 
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    When i watch my dog play, i know why he is doing what he is doing. When he is chasing another dog he is practising the chase, he's building a relationship with the other dog and he's working out his place in that two dog pack. He also play fights, the answer to why he does that is obvious.

    I can watch most sports and like to play football, cricket and rugby, but why ? What does playing a game give me ? If your a kid it's again, obvious. You build up your muscles, you gain skills like hand to eye coordination, you are socialising and at the same time competing with the other person and finding your natural place in the group.

    So why do we continue to play games all the way though are lives ? Why are people of 60, 70 still playing games of darts, golf, tennis or bowls, with the same people they have been playing with their hole lives, what can they gain from still competing at that age ? Or are we simply, very competitive creatures ?


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    some people find enjoyment in such activities, why does someone continue to paint or study or act, work, drive etc in later life.

    but really i think you answered your own question when you introduced the example of the kid,
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    you are socialising and at the same time competing with the other person
    socialising, we're social creatures and theres no reason why we should stop simply because we're getting on in life.
    competition, i don't know about you but i get a certain degree of satisfaction from being able to do something or make some achievement that comes from competing.
    i would have to say that we're just social and competetive creatures.


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    What is the point of sport?

    To kick ass and win.
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    To de-evolve humanity
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelos
    To de-evolve humanity
    wow those super evolved creatures are boring.
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    Yeah no kidding

    I've have nothing against the Arts & Sciences but if human evolution means sitting around all day reading books, giving lectures and being "intellectual" - then I'll take the caveman approach.

    The need for physical challenge is in our blood and competition makes you stronger. Even if you lose. Especially if you lose. If nothing else, sports teaches humililty first hand and I cannot stress enough how important that lesson is.

    Me personally, I was raised on combative sports. I love it.
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    Sport: - An ideal opportunity to spray the testosterone about, have a bath/shower with 10 other guys and talk about your own masculinity.
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    when I was a lot younger and heard about all of the wars going on, I used to think to myself, Why dont the leaders just get together and battle over it with a game of chess.

    Obviously it doesnt work that way.

    I would say that we play sports to win, or to attempt to win, to show off our skills to other's.

    Certainly when I play, like a game of footie or rugby, there is a certain snese of personal achievement in scoring a goal or a try, or bringing someone down on the field thats twice as big as me. For males im pretty sure its all about the competition. Now, put a really sexy female such as Paris Hilton next on the sideline, watching the game im playing; and suddenly everyone will be more competitive; attempting to prove one's virility. Its all about survival.

    Secondly its all about the "feel good factor" for having achieved something. Winning IS an addiction because out hyper-thalamus will produce certain peptides that will lock into our cell's receptor sites when we have acknowledged victory.

    Sports are also a good way of getting rid of any aggression you have. They stop us from killing each other, (sometimes)
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    I've have nothing against the Arts & Sciences but if human evolution means sitting around all day reading books, giving lectures and being "intellectual" - then I'll take the caveman approach.
    There is no greater pleasure than learning and thinking

    The need for physical challenge is in our blood and competition makes you stronger. Even if you lose. Especially if you lose. If nothing else, sports teaches humililty first hand and I cannot stress enough how important that lesson is.
    physical strenght is for neanderthals who lack the ability of using the head for anything but cracking nuts to eat
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelos
    There is no greater pleasure than learning and thinking
    Sadly most people only get as far as thinking of learning.
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    Most people arent capable of any significant learning
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelos
    Most people arent capable of any significant learning
    Or thinking come to that...
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    now we are talking
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    Here's a related question - why do people who dislike sports seem to have such a passionate dislike for them? I don't insult people who like knitting, stamp collecting, or video games. To each their own - but why do people who dislike sports insist on being as negative as Megabrain and Zelos are towards the athletes and fans who DO enjoy it?
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    Where the hell was I negative?

    I'm a sports fan, take part in cycling races, and play for the village eleven cricket, - a gammy leg rules out football, rugby anymore.

    THe other comments I made were in relation to thinking and learning, which is applicable to all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megabrain
    Sport: - An ideal opportunity to spray the testosterone about, have a bath/shower with 10 other guys and talk about your own masculinity.
    Statements like that to me are negative, if you are reducing sports to testosterone displays. You may or may not be joking to some degree, but I do hear people in complete seriousness refer to sports in a manner like this. Whether you personally do or do not isn't really my point, because there are people who do and I've never understood why.
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    I think it essentially is a display of testosterone, and I for one do not see it as any form of derogatory remark, I rather like spending time with the lads, it's a male bonding thing it's all part of the sport, the ritual before and after is as much a part of many games as the public display. The ladies have their functions in the village and we have ours. If anybody made that charge to us (sport is just a display of testosterone) we'd cheer him on, or laugh it off, it keeps us all fit - healthy body healthy mind rather than 'couch potato cabbage brain'.
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    healthy body healthy mind rather than 'couch potato cabbage brain'.
    got healthy mind but i hate sports, when i see sport all i see is people yelling at some people kicking a stupid spherical object known as ball around the area. id rather see something more intellectual sutible for higher classes
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    Well you might have a great mind but if you want to keep it you'll need a life support system called a body, which if healthy can keep the mind alive a lot longer. So get off your arse and go play a game of football, not for your mind, but for it's life support system!
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    Well you might have a great mind but if you want to keep it you'll need a life support system called a body, which if healthy can keep the mind alive a lot longer. So get off your arse and go play a game of football, not for your mind, but for it's life support system!
    youve cracked my reason for hating bieng organic and wanting to be mechanical
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelos
    got healthy mind but i hate sports, when i see sport all i see is people yelling at some people kicking a stupid spherical object known as ball around the area. id rather see something more intellectual sutible for higher classes
    What ? Like chess ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zelos
    youve cracked my reason for hating bieng organic and wanting to be mechanical
    organic = energetic

    mechanical = lazy
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    What ? Like chess ??
    yeah
    organic = energetic

    mechanical = lazy
    Organic is inferior to mechanical. Organic ones is hard to replace, hard to fix etc. Mechanical is far superior to organic
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    So why do we continue to play games all the way though are lives ?
    I think they feel better. I am 27 years old and once i did sport, in the next days i feel more happy or better. Maybe i can feel myself and my existence physically.

    The feeling you obtained from some thinking activity and physical activity are totally different. So why not doing only one? Because continuing to doing phsyical one is more difficult . We have things to do, aren't we

    By the way, i still dont understand why billiard or chess is a sport (If i am not wrong, at least one of these considered to be a sport activity.) May be they are art but i dont think they are sport.
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    [quote="Cat1981(England)"]When i watch my dog play, i know why he is doing what he is doing. When he is chasing another dog he is practising the chase, he's building a relationship with the other dog and he's working out his place in that two dog pack. He also play fights, the answer to why he does that is obvious.

    It is not often mentioned in science, but it is certainly clear that our behavior has evolved right along with our anatomy and physiology. We are social primates and used to hunting or gathering (THRU MILLIONS OF YEARS OF EVOLUTION) to enjoy hunting (the men) and gathering (the women), Now days, the "gathering" is shopping and the hunting (the men) is sports. Even the balls are either leather bound or immitation leather bound. The men chase them and operate in the same size teams as were the hunting-gathering groups---some eight or so men to a hunting party or war party.

    We are motivated by instincts which are subtle tendencies which our culture conditions into specific acts as happens with other animals. All mammals learn the "correct" way to focus their instincts. It is called "conditioning."

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    Quote Originally Posted by charles brough
    It is not often mentioned in science, but it is certainly clear that our behavior has evolved right along with our anatomy and physiology.
    I agree with everything you wrote except this: it is often mentioned in science - in text books, in research papers, and in lecture theatres. (Not to mention the Sunday supplements.)
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    Some African hunter gatherer tribes do play some sports, if i remember it's something similar to archery and involves all the males in the tribe, young and old. Also, we ourselves have sports based on practical skills, such as those in the olympics.
    It does make sense though that we could have replaced our hunter instincts with team sports as those have much of the same elements.
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