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    malevolence: noun: 'the state or condition of being malevolent; hostility

    Being a bit of a word chewer I've developed a distaste for the malignant mutation of definitions that appear to have entered the common acceptance. Take the supplied example for instance. The definition supplied to this word is decidedly vindictive without supplying any definition of the nature of the spite. The Latin language was created for objectivity where this definition, less than subtlely, points the finger at a perpetrator and is subjective. My comprehension of the Latin construction of this word defines it as an individuals improper assumption of the role of another for the purpose of domination or undermining. I assume their will be other opinions here?


     

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    Sounds like an example of the etymological fallacy to me.

    What it meant in Latin is irrelevant, it is an English word.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
    Sounds like an example of the etymological fallacy to me.

    What it meant in Latin is irrelevant, it is an English word.
    It appears you are an expert on all things. Have you visited your peers at Oxford of late?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by cameldowndelta View Post
    It appears you are an expert on all things.
    I don't know what gives you that impression. I am not an expert on anything.

    Have you visited your peers at Oxford of late?
    I have been in Oxford recently. Although most people there appeared to have degrees and PhDs, so I don't think I count as a peer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cameldowndelta View Post
    It appears you are an expert on all things. Have you visited your peers at Oxford of late?
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    I don't seek to offend others.
    You simply do it automatically?
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    Do you refer to the queens english or something more vulgar strange. There really is no lesser standard among those who regulate the laws you abide by. I prefer not to dabble in the subjective verbosity you boast.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedPanda View Post
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    It appears you are an expert on all things. Have you visited your peers at Oxford of late?
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    I don't seek to offend others.
    You simply do it automatically?
    and my offense to you has been? Specifically?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by cameldowndelta View Post
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    It appears you are an expert on all things. Have you visited your peers at Oxford of late?
    Quote Originally Posted by cameldowndelta View Post
    I don't seek to offend others.
    You simply do it automatically?
    and my offense to you has been? Specifically?
    Ah - I see that you like strawmen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cameldowndelta View Post
    Do you refer to the queens english or something more vulgar strange. There really is no lesser standard among those who regulate the laws you abide by. I prefer not to dabble in the subjective verbosity you boast.
    Do you come from a "fatherland" strange. There are a few scallious regions of the world remaining that resent the free expression of the feminine character. Are you seeking to assert this sort of rhabid perception on my impressionable learning mind?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by cameldowndelta View Post
    Do you come from a "fatherland" strange. There are a few scallious regions of the world remaining that resent the free expression of the feminine character. Are you seeking to assert this sort of rhabid perception on my impressionable learning mind?
    Quote Originally Posted by cameldowndelta View Post
    I don't seek to offend others.
    It actually seems to be your default behaviour.

    Somehow you managed to get upset at the 4 polite messages that Strange posted.
    It would appear that you are unable to accept any criticism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cameldowndelta View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by cameldowndelta View Post
    Do you refer to the queens english or something more vulgar strange. There really is no lesser standard among those who regulate the laws you abide by. I prefer not to dabble in the subjective verbosity you boast.
    Do you come from a "fatherland" strange. There are a few scallious regions of the world remaining that resent the free expression of the feminine character. Are you seeking to assert this sort of rhabid perception on my impressionable learning mind?
    I have no idea what you are talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedPanda View Post
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    Do you come from a "fatherland" strange. There are a few scallious regions of the world remaining that resent the free expression of the feminine character. Are you seeking to assert this sort of rhabid perception on my impressionable learning mind?
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    I don't seek to offend others.
    It actually seems to be your default behaviour.

    Somehow you managed to get upset at the 4 polite messages that Strange posted.
    It would appear that you are unable to accept any criticism.
    What on earth gave you any idea that I am upset. I am here to discuss things with people I know. If you think I would take the time to get upset at people throwing stones without any names or references on them you are sorely mistaken. You have failed to provide a single criticism or I would have addressed it. Flailing your verbal giblets at me is laughable.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by cameldowndelta View Post
    Do you refer to the queens english or something more vulgar strange. There really is no lesser standard among those who regulate the laws you abide by. I prefer not to dabble in the subjective verbosity you boast.
    Do you come from a "fatherland" strange. There are a few scallious regions of the world remaining that resent the free expression of the feminine character. Are you seeking to assert this sort of rhabid perception on my impressionable learning mind?
    I have no idea what you are talking about.
    I don't think I am the only one who has noticed that.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by cameldowndelta View Post
    What on earth gave you any idea that I am upset.
    Then you are offensive even when calm.

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    I am here to discuss things with people I know.
    This isn't your own private forum.
    You don't get to choose who replies.

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    You have failed to provide a single criticism or I would have addressed it.
    So, you don't consider me pointing out your rudeness to be a criticism?
    Maybe you are so used to being accused of being rude that you are now immune.
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    "Religions are like sausages. When you know how they are made, you no longer want them."
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
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    Do you come from a "fatherland" strange. There are a few scallious regions of the world remaining that resent the free expression of the feminine character.
    I have no idea what you are talking about.
    He is implying that you live in Nazi Germany and that you, by extension, are a Nazi.

    It is an obfuscated Godwin, so you have won the argument on a technicality.
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    As you are fond of words here's one:

    Pseud:
    n1. a false, artificial, or pretentious person...

    Chiefly Brit. Informal. n.
    1.
    a person of fatuously earnest intellectual, artistic, or social pretensions

    I think the second definition describes you quite well...
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDemon View Post
    As you are fond of words here's one:

    Pseud:
    n1. a false, artificial, or pretentious person...

    Chiefly Brit. Informal. n.
    1.
    a person of fatuously earnest intellectual, artistic, or social pretensions

    I think the second definition describes you quite well...
    are those words you are unhappy with the meaning of? I started this thread to discuss improperly constitued definitions. You seem to have a penchant for cheese grating.
     

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    wibble, wibble, my old man's a mushroom etc.
     

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    I think it is extraordinary that someone who claims to be concerned with the "true" definition of words, makes up meaningless phrases like "cheese grating" and words like "scallious".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
    ...words like "scallious".
    I thought it was just another typo - but I couldn't figure out what the word was actually meant to be.
    The nearest I got was "scallion" but that's an onion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
    I think it is extraordinary that someone who claims to be concerned with the "true" definition of words, makes up meaningless phrases like "cheese grating" and words like "scallious".
    and you would prefer that I make some sort of contrite personal distinction. I borrow from what you present as the "first impression" you seek to maintain with your avatar choice and handle. The practice of assuming it is my place to delve deeper into the character of another than where it is openly invited is one I seek to avoid.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedPanda View Post
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    ...words like "scallious".
    I thought it was just another typo - but I couldn't figure out what the word was actually meant to be.
    The nearest I got was "scallion" but that's an onion.
    it is an old nautical term that refers to the lowly job of deckscrubbing
     

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    In which dictionary?

    Definitions of scallious - OneLook Dictionary Search

    This site accesses all the main ones and it isn't in any of them.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDemon View Post
    In which dictionary?

    Definitions of scallious - OneLook Dictionary Search

    This site accesses all the main ones and it isn't in any of them.
    you won't find the pirate dictionary in that one I'm afraid. you might get lost looking for that little tome I'd warn you
     

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    ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat
     

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    and I would remind you phdublins, I used the word scallious to avoid being genuinely personal. You are winding a wheel that is not relevant to this discourse. what is your purpose?
     

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    And now you have reached idiot critical mass. You claim to be interested in language and then cite a made up word from a made up dictionary. You are obviously trolling so I'll report you and put you on ignore.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by cameldowndelta View Post
    and you would prefer that I make some sort of contrite personal distinction.
    I would prefer that you attempt to make sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
    no no. a scullion is a cooked scallion when your before the wind. it has a lot to do with the intention for which the word was applied
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
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    and you would prefer that I make some sort of contrite personal distinction.
    I would prefer that you attempt to make sense.
    as I would prefer you to address the subject matter rather than try to work "me" out. I didn't come here to talk about me. why do you persist on that subject?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by cameldowndelta View Post
    as I would prefer you to address the subject matter
    What is the subject matter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cameldowndelta View Post
    you won't find the pirate dictionary in that one I'm afraid. you might get lost looking for that little tome I'd warn you
    So now you are propagating made-up words.
    So much for your defence of the English language.
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    meaning is use
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trivium View Post
    meaning is use
    so why diminish a definitive?
     

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    What is wrong with you? Why do you feel the need to keep creating new accounts just to post nonsense? Why not just get a Twitter account.
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    mal - malodorous, malicious / malfeasance, malignancy

    vol - volatility
    vol - volition

    en - in

    endo - encephalo - engy -




    The Latin word - malevolence is the word opposite to the Greek - emulate

    hostility is simply wasted breath
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
    What is wrong with you? Why do you feel the need to keep creating new accounts just to post nonsense? Why not just get a Twitter account.
    why not address the question I posted or is this genuinely a clicque rather than a forum?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by pailfuss View Post
    why not address the question I posted or is this genuinely a clicque rather than a forum?
    You haven't posted an intelligible question.
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    excuse me? I asked in plain english why the word malevolence had been given a diminished definition. I have now provided the Latin roots for the word AND the word that represents it's Greek counterpart. If you do not comprehend the construction of Latin or Greek I suggest you contribute to another thread
     

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    malevolence was never an english word. don't claim what isn't yours plagiarists. plato said so
     

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    Sigh another tedious sockpuppet, you were boring (and stupid) the first time. Ban please.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDemon View Post
    Sigh another tedious sockpuppet, you were boring (and stupid) the first time. Ban please.
    point out where and how I am wrong and I will concede as you are incapable of. I maintain, malevolence is and always will be a Latin word, not an English one and the definition should not be changed to diminish the publics ability to reason
     

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    the word is also the counterpart of the greek - emulate. Anyone who has studied both languages could not disagree
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by pailfuss View Post
    excuse me? I asked in plain english why the word malevolence had been given a diminished definition.
    Who do you think has "given" words their definition?

    words get their meanings from the way they are used. No one is in control of it.

    I have now provided the Latin roots for the word AND the word that represents it's Greek counterpart.
    Which is irrelevant because we are talking about English, not Latin or Greek.
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    Whaddya know.

    It's sockpuppet the stupid again.

    Banned. Closed.
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