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  1. #1 What could be moral and leagal issues of a "virtual sex"? 
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    What could be the issues with "virtual sex"? Two things, hackers and NSA. Could give a whole new meaning to the cryptography term "man in the middle"

    edit: Seriously though, for your questions"

    1) Regarded how, is the question. You have zero risk of STD transmission, or pregnancy. So through a medical lens, its absolutely different. From an emotional lense it could be the same.
    2) I think you meant to ask if we would do virtual contact with somebody who is only attractive in virtual space, but ugly in reality. For me the answer is yes, sounds like a great way to spend the golden years. Log in from my nursing home bed looking like I'm a 22 year old athelete, dating the same.
    3) Not as much. People who sleep around on you are risking STDs, and concealing that fact from you gives you grounds for real anger, which can be called jealousy.
    4) As far as prostitution, you get rid of public health issues and personal safety issues, so it would be a go. Age of consent would still apply, because its a sexual activity.


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    >1) Could it (in your own opinion) be regarded as form of a sexual intercourse or just kind of sexual communication similar to "sex by phone"? What is more important - imitation
    >of a sensory perception or real physical contact?

    Up to you and your partner; however you want to handle it.

    >2) Would you ever want to engage in virtual sexual contact with woman/man under condition that he/she is really attractive in reality as well, and looks in virtual reality
    >the same as in real?

    Don't see why not. Hard to answer without knowing more about that particular interface.

    >3) Would you experience sexual jealousy to attractive prostitute/partner if you know that she/he engages only in virtual sexual contacts?

    Depends on the person. Personally it wouldn't bother me as long as we talked about it first.

    >4)What could be legal regulations regarding age of consent, prostitution, forced sexual contacts, prostitution and pedophilia in relation to "virtual sex"?

    Seems like the laws we already have covering protections of minors would work pretty well.
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    If you engage in sexually charged conversation (this includes virtual sex) with a person who is underage, it is illegal (also varies in law/ age locally). If that virtual sex involves webcam streams or images with a minor, that is also a crime. Those are the most obvious issues.

    As far as I know there are not many laws against "being a camgirl" if you are over a certain age and charging people online for sex shows (again this will vary depending on country. I am sure it is completely illegal in some places).

    In terms of jealousy, I do not see a difference whether someone is cheating on you through virtual sex or real. This personal opinion is my own and I have met strong opposition to otherwise.

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    No doubt the sex industry, being as huge and profitable as it is, will fund many such developments in the near future.
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    Yes I imagine all sorts oppression minded moralist will trip over themselves trying to come with "reasons" to restrict virtual sexuality without interest in whether there's any credible scientifically based evidence for their paranoid views about the effects on people or society.
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    A new generation may repeat an error made during the sexual revolution. At that time people believed no-strings sex ideal and achievable. But an earlier generation's euphemism "making love" proved all to true, for the pleasure of sex is "designed" at a basic involuntary level to bond partners. The sexually liberated struggled with this, mainly by denying their own feelings called "hangups". It made for artificially cold relationships wherein both partners conspired to deny feelings of attachment, though what was driving the activity fundamentally, was their basic need to love and be loved.

    I think modern societies will eventually need to re-examine the issue of love transactions. Pressing, for example, is the increase of contracted care (at least in Canada) by imported nannies and other caregivers, who on one level serve as emotional prostitutes.

    Those are deeper issues than the practical complications of virtual sex. I hope this discussion keeps in touch with the more basic social and emotional issues underlying it.
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    I think its a great idea provided some basic rules are observed. For example I would expressly rule out my wife playing around with this jerk.

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    virtual?

    really crazy
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    To answer the questions, I reckon a virtual-sex-device (or channel) analogous to a glory hole. Its effect depends on how people use it.


    1) Could it (in your own opinion) be regarded as form of a sexual intercourse or just kind of sexual communication similar to "sex by phone"? What is more important - imitation of a sensory perception or real physical contact?
    Asking is it really sex. I think if there's significant feedback between individuals, than yes that's sex. So, a highly realistic dildo attached to a hole in the wall (a bot) isn't sex. It's pornographic and what one does with it is masturbation. Realism or immersion doesn't change that. Phone sex is a sort of sexual intercourse because individuals are responding to each other in a two-way communication. So what is more important isn't sensory perception nor physical contact - it's the intimacy of genuine feedback between partners. A phone-sex worker who reads from a script isn't engaging in sex; he's putting on a live show.

    2) Would you ever want to engage in virtual sexual contact with woman/man under condition that he/she is really attractive in reality as well, and looks in virtual reality the same as in real?
    I don't see how the person's meat-space body is relevant here. That's one optimistic promise of virtual sex: people may engage intimately though their physiques would otherwise be a handicap or turn-off. I'm personally done with having sex just for kicks, so I wouldn't do it without serious romance attached. Hypothetically that could be virtual. But so are old-fashioned posted love letters virtual.

    3) Would you experience sexual jealousy to attractive prostitute/partner if you know that she/he engages only in virtual sexual contacts?
    You mean my partner does it with others? Totally and unapologetically I'd be jealous. But if you mean my partner is limited to virtual sex, that's merely a handicap, and doesn't diminish the value of their intended engagement with me. It might be rather a special effort on their part - nice!

    4)What could be legal regulations regarding age of consent, prostitution, forced sexual contacts, prostitution and pedophilia in relation to "virtual sex"?
    Above I showed how it can be classed as either pornography or sexual engagement. Existing laws should work fine.


    I predict virtual sex interfaces in real life will essentially act as glory holes. So the technology isn't bad in itself but the reasons people use it and how they use it may be bad.

    I want to stress that the richness of stimulation doesn't change the ethics. For example a plain pop-up window "Click 'OK' to rape. [OK / CANCEL]" is ethically loaded even where individuals are totally anonymous and zero info or feedback is given except that implied by the terse message and user response.
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    This is hilarious!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanley514 View Post
    1) Could it (in your own opinion) be regarded as form of a sexual intercourse or just kind of sexual communication similar to "sex by phone"?
    I regard it as sexual intercourse for the reason that the sexual stimulation isn't self-performed and while aided by technology; is managed by another individual who (by my understanding) is also experiencing sexual stimulation managed by you.

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    1.1) What is more important - imitation of a sensory perception or real physical contact?
    I can't really say, since all I have ever experienced is real physical contact and nothing else.

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    2) Would you ever want to engage in virtual sexual contact with woman/man under condition that he/she is really attractive in reality as well, and looks in virtual reality the same as in real?
    No, that isn't necessary since it takes place in a virtual setting. The virtual avatar would be of any level of sexual attractiveness, any one gender, any one species (real/fictional), any one age group, etc.

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    3) Would you experience sexual jealousy to attractive prostitute/partner if you know that she/he engages only in virtual sexual contacts?
    Personally, I imagine I would. I view it as no different than my partner receives and exchanges hot steamy email/letters from another. I imagine jealousy would be present in most people.

    I think I've read that wrong the first time. If your question is to ask if I would experience jealousy if the virtual sexual partner offers to have virtual sex with another, my answer is Not likely.

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    4)What could be legal regulations regarding age of consent, prostitution, forced sexual contacts, prostitution and pedophilia in relation to "virtual sex"?
    If ever made legal and with the current sexual sentiments, I foresee state regulated private virtual brothels with registered participants from both sides, and limited forms of virtual avatars (such as no child-like avatars).
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    This is hilarious!!

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    I feel cheated. I called but all I got offered was to buy a SHAM-WOW.

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    I don't believe "evil" exists, but then it's evil IMO to subject a sapient robot to forcible sex acts, if such a thing ever existed (maybe in 2100, not today haha...) Though the ladies may like a Data to perform "acts" as he did with Tasha Yar once lol.. (TNG fans would understand that, my apologies to those who don't).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanley514 View Post
    I don't believe "evil" exists, but then it's evil IMO to subject a sapient robot to forcible sex acts
    Sexual manipulations with mechanical device ("robot") cannot be regarded as sex. Only between two persons could.
    WHEW! I can feel morally exempt from my friend Bob.....Mahalo
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    Quote Originally Posted by babe View Post
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    I don't believe "evil" exists, but then it's evil IMO to subject a sapient robot to forcible sex acts
    Sexual manipulations with mechanical device ("robot") cannot be regarded as sex. Only between two persons could.
    WHEW! I can feel morally exempt from my friend Bob.....Mahalo
    Disclaimer: That Bob is not me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robittybob1 View Post
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    I don't believe "evil" exists, but then it's evil IMO to subject a sapient robot to forcible sex acts
    Sexual manipulations with mechanical device ("robot") cannot be regarded as sex. Only between two persons could.
    WHEW! I can feel morally exempt from my friend Bob.....Mahalo
    Disclaimer: That Bob is not me.
    No shit Sherlock...BOB...there is no ROBITTY in that ......please note
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    Quote Originally Posted by babe View Post
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    I don't believe "evil" exists, but then it's evil IMO to subject a sapient robot to forcible sex acts
    Sexual manipulations with mechanical device ("robot") cannot be regarded as sex. Only between two persons could.
    WHEW! I can feel morally exempt from my friend Bob.....Mahalo
    Disclaimer: That Bob is not me.

    No shit Sherlock...BOB...there is no ROBITTY in that ......please note
    Well is there another Bob around here on a regular basis?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robittybob1 View Post
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    I don't believe "evil" exists, but then it's evil IMO to subject a sapient robot to forcible sex acts
    Sexual manipulations with mechanical device ("robot") cannot be regarded as sex. Only between two persons could.
    WHEW! I can feel morally exempt from my friend Bob.....Mahalo
    Disclaimer: That Bob is not me.

    No shit Sherlock...BOB...there is no ROBITTY in that ......please note
    Well is there another Bob around here on a regular basis?
    I have no idea...
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