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    Would most people engaged in battle, strive to win the battle, even when winning the battle likely meant losing the war?


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    That sounds like a pretty uncomfortable situation


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    the situation becomes irrelevant, it is the action and intent within the moment that piques the curiosity
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    Well, there is that old story that Churchill allowed the decimation of Coventry to keep the secret that his scientists had cracked the Enigma code.
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    another scenario
    let us say that you had a supervisor who could not or would not make a decision, and reacted badly when you made a decision.
    Would you continue to making more decisions as needed, or give up the control to "get along"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sculptor View Post
    let us say that you had a supervisor who could not or would not make a decision, and reacted badly when you made a decision.

    Would you continue to making more decisions as needed, or give up the control to "get along"?
    In a working environment (specifically mine), indecisiveness at a crucial point when a decision is needed to progress ahead will likely land you in hot soup. Senior managers and managers are positioned to lead and make decisions. If they aren't able to do that, I'll simply get someone else who are able to do so and replace them. Which is no surprise when I have been viewed as rather ruthless in an working environment when it comes to getting things going and/or done. In short, I would continue taking the responsibility in making any and all decisions if my superiors aren't able to render a decision when one is needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sculptor View Post
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    another scenario
    let us say that you had a supervisor who could not or would not make a decision, and reacted badly when you made a decision.
    Would you continue to making more decisions as needed, or give up the control to "get along"?
    As an Army officer this was easy...continue to make the decision while encouraging and advising the superior to decide. If it continued tell the superior you are going over their head. In combat indecisiveness gets people killed-- getting or making them is a moral imperative.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sculptor View Post
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    another scenario
    let us say that you had a supervisor who could not or would not make a decision, and reacted badly when you made a decision.
    Would you continue to making more decisions as needed, or give up the control to "get along"?
    I had that situation. My supervisor could not do her job. I had to help her with hers and do mine also. Came time for my review, and her supervisor (also a friend of hers) asked me, why I wasn't as positive as I should be.


    My reply was, "Because I am doing her job and my job for my pay because you hired her and she doesn't F****** know what she is doing."

    I did not get a good review.

    The controller called us in. Asked the same question. I gave the same answer.

    I left of my own accord several months later, although I continued to enjoy my two other co-workers, and did my job to the best of my ability and hers also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sculptor View Post
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    another scenario
    let us say that you had a supervisor who could not or would not make a decision, and reacted badly when you made a decision.
    Would you continue to making more decisions as needed, or give up the control to "get along"?
    I think it would depend on the situation. But if it's as black and white as that I would give up control to get along. If I'm not getting paid to make those decisions I won't care. I'm a firm believer in cream rising to the top and lead sinking.
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