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    If I want to do something and if it's something I love to do, then why is there a barrier between my will and doing what i want?
    It's like all the things have a symbolic meaning and the symbol is screwed and can't be replaces with a will power. Aargh!
    As example, I want to produce music but the symbol of making music is negative and that's why I can't do it.


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    What is "the symbol of making music"? (That thing Prince did?) And why is it negative?


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    Yau can produce your own music for free here:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
    What is "the symbol of making music"? (That thing Prince did?) And why is it negative?
    I mean, we have a symbol for most meanings. And my love to write music has gone bad. If I force myself, I feel like I have no skills anymore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deep'n'dark View Post
    If I want to do something and if it's something I love to do, then why is there a barrier between my will and doing what i want?
    Let's isolate the two keywords used here; want and love. "Want" being commonly understood as motivated by desire, and "love" being possessing a strong affection for, or in this case (I suspect) you may have meant it as being strongly motivated. An example of how these two do not necessarily mean the same thing is as follows.


    • I "want" to (and will?) please my spouse by cleaning out the garage for our anniversary, but I do not necessarily "love" cleaning out the garage.


    However, your thread title uses the words want and can, and the difference between the two is willingness and ability.


    • I "can" do you a favor, but I do not necessarily "want" to do you a favor.


    Have I understood your post correctly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by deep'n'dark View Post
    If I want to do something and if it's something I love to do, then why is there a barrier between my will and doing what i want?
    It's like all the things have a symbolic meaning and the symbol is screwed and can't be replaces with a will power. Aargh!
    As example, I want to produce music but the symbol of making music is negative and that's why I can't do it.
    what you want you should can
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    Quote Originally Posted by deep'n'dark View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
    What is "the symbol of making music"? (That thing Prince did?) And why is it negative?

    I mean, we have a symbol for most meanings.


    That doesn't help me at all. When I think of symbols I think of base clefts for example.

    And my love to write music has gone bad. If I force myself, I feel like I have no skills anymore.
    You might enjoy this short talk by Elizabeth Gilbert who talks about genius, attitude related to creativity. It's entertaining as well.


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    If I want to do something and if it's something I love to do, then why is there a barrier between my will and doing what i want?
    Let's isolate the two keywords used here; want and love. "Want" being commonly understood as motivated by desire, and "love" being possessing a strong affection for, or in this case (I suspect) you may have meant it as being strongly motivated. An example of how these two do not necessarily mean the same thing is as follows.


    • I "want" to (and will?) please my spouse by cleaning out the garage for our anniversary, but I do not necessarily "love" cleaning out the garage.


    However, your thread title uses the words want and can, and the difference between the two is willingness and ability.


    • I "can" do you a favor, but I do not necessarily "want" to do you a favor.


    Have I understood your post correctly?
    The "can" was suppose to be "can't" in the title - I wanted to edit and correct it, but it seems I can only edit the content of the post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynx_Fox View Post
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    I mean, we have a symbol for most meanings.


    That doesn't help me at all. When I think of symbols I think of base clefts for example.


    Sorry, english ain't my native language, but I try to explain myself. So everything has some kind of meaning for things in our memory. I used to have a very positive "symbol" about music making - maybe symbol should be replaced with some other word, but I don't know what it should be called. Now, when something wasn't ok with the symbol, I was able to replace it, but I'm not able to replace these slots in my memory for longer time already and it makes me sad. I'm not sure, but is it "mix in psych" in english, when you try to change something in your brains?
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    Quote Originally Posted by deep'n'dark View Post
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    However, your thread title uses the words want and can, and the difference between the two is willingness and ability.


    • I "can" do you a favor, but I do not necessarily "want" to do you a favor.


    Have I understood your post correctly?
    The "can" was suppose to be "can't" in the title - I wanted to edit and correct it, but it seems I can only edit the content of the post.
    Ahh, I can easily amend it accordingly to suit the change in wording.

    However, your thread title uses the words want and can't, and the difference between the two is willingness and inability.


    • I "want" to do you a favor, but I "can't" for the so-and-so reasons.
    May I ask what it is you are facing exactly? Are you having trouble finding the motivation to do something you have always had no trouble doing, and possibly enjoy doing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by deep'n'dark View Post
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    I mean, we have a symbol for most meanings.


    That doesn't help me at all. When I think of symbols I think of base clefts for example.


    Sorry, english ain't my native language, but I try to explain myself. So everything has some kind of meaning for things in our memory. I used to have a very positive "symbol" about music making - maybe symbol should be replaced with some other word, but I don't know what it should be called. Now, when something wasn't ok with the symbol, I was able to replace it, but I'm not able to replace these slots in my memory for longer time already and it makes me sad. I'm not sure, but is it "mix in psych" in english, when you try to change something in your brains?
    yes this is much better explanation
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    Quote Originally Posted by scoobydoo1 View Post
    May I ask what it is you are facing exactly? Are you having trouble finding the motivation to do something you have always had no trouble doing, and possibly enjoy doing?
    I've always been motivated to do certain stuff, like writing music, or making sounds for other musicians. But it's been few years when I've not been able to modify my will anymore.
    It's like my brains have a padlock on and i'm not able to change it by my will like I was able to do so before. This is very frustrating situation that seems not to be fixable by any kind of "mix in psych" method. I still have a lot to do musically, but my concious doesn't support what I want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deep'n'dark View Post
    I've always been motivated to do certain stuff, like writing music, or making sounds for other musicians. But it's been few years when I've not been able to modify my will anymore. It's like my brains have a padlock on and i'm not able to change it by my will like I was able to do so before.

    This is very frustrating situation that seems not to be fixable by any kind of "mix in psych" method. I still have a lot to do musically, but my concious doesn't support what I want.
    May I ask if you are trying to understand what is happening to you, or are you looking for a quick fix to the difficulties you are facing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scoobydoo1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by deep'n'dark View Post
    I've always been motivated to do certain stuff, like writing music, or making sounds for other musicians. But it's been few years when I've not been able to modify my will anymore. It's like my brains have a padlock on and i'm not able to change it by my will like I was able to do so before.

    This is very frustrating situation that seems not to be fixable by any kind of "mix in psych" method. I still have a lot to do musically, but my concious doesn't support what I want.
    May I ask if you are trying to understand what is happening to you, or are you looking for a quick fix to the difficulties you are facing?
    im interested in both
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    Quote Originally Posted by scoobydoo1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by deep'n'dark View Post
    I've always been motivated to do certain stuff, like writing music, or making sounds for other musicians. But it's been few years when I've not been able to modify my will anymore. It's like my brains have a padlock on and i'm not able to change it by my will like I was able to do so before.

    This is very frustrating situation that seems not to be fixable by any kind of "mix in psych" method. I still have a lot to do musically, but my concious doesn't support what I want.
    May I ask if you are trying to understand what is happening to you, or are you looking for a quick fix to the difficulties you are facing?
    This wouldn't be a quick fix as I've been in this trap for over two years. Usually this kind of thing is called "writer's block", but because my mix in psych doesn't work for anything else either, then i believe it's something else, causing this all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deep'n'dark View Post
    This wouldn't be a quick fix as I've been in this trap for over two years. Usually this kind of thing is called "writer's block", but because my mix in psych doesn't work for anything else either, then i believe it's something else, causing this all.
    So, you are interested in understanding what is happening to you, and not looking for a fix. Did I understand you correctly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by scoobydoo1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by deep'n'dark View Post
    This wouldn't be a quick fix as I've been in this trap for over two years. Usually this kind of thing is called "writer's block", but because my mix in psych doesn't work for anything else either, then i believe it's something else, causing this all.
    So, you are interested in understanding what is happening to you, and not looking for a fix. Did I understand you correctly?
    I have my own theory what is really happening to me, but I keep it for myself at the very current time. Anyway, I'm always ready to read what others think about this all.
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    What do you find negative about making music?
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