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    the more healty athlethic smart guy with money the younger beautyfuller girls... agree?
    No. I have always been involved in athletics since high school and the fellows I know have girlfriends, wives and families like most others. I have not known my wealthier friends to be out chasing younger women...they tend to be on the golf course or vacationing in Maui with their grandchildren. It may be hard for some to comprehend but stereotypes from the pages of celebrity magazines are not the norm in society. The vast majority of men do not pursue much younger women and the vast majority off women are not interested in much older men regardless of their wealth...my sisters would be insulted that they could be 'bought'.Men and women are attracted to nice people they can relate to.
    oke let me ask you different... who liked the girls most in high school and university? the nice guys? the athlethic famous ones?
    Who liked who? Every guy that was straight liked girls and every girl that was straight liked guys.
     

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    I remember reading of a research exercise into sexual preferences.

    The method was to present a big bunch of photos of gals to the men and a big bunch of photos of guys to the women. They were told to shuffle the photos in order of maximum attractiveness to minimum.

    Result : the guys were remarkably consistent. The most attractive gals were consistently the most attractive to all the guys, and this applied right across the spectrum

    The women, though, were very variable in their preferences. Much more so than the guys. Another thing they found, of interest, is that the women were easily able to influence each other. If one woman claimed particular guys were more attractive, other women tended to agree. This was not true for the men. If one man tried to claim a plain woman was attractive, it did not influence the preferences of the other men.
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    the more healty athlethic smart guy with money the younger beautyfuller girls... agree?
    No. I have always been involved in athletics since high school and the fellows I know have girlfriends, wives and families like most others. I have not known my wealthier friends to be out chasing younger women...they tend to be on the golf course or vacationing in Maui with their grandchildren. It may be hard for some to comprehend but stereotypes from the pages of celebrity magazines are not the norm in society. The vast majority of men do not pursue much younger women and the vast majority off women are not interested in much older men regardless of their wealth...my sisters would be insulted that they could be 'bought'.Men and women are attracted to nice people they can relate to.
    oke let me ask you different... who liked the girls most in high school and university? the nice guys? the athlethic famous ones?
    Who liked who? Every guy that was straight liked girls and every girl that was straight liked guys.
    im asking you... the girls of your school who did they like more athletic famous smart guys or fat nerdy glasses nice guys?
     

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    the more healthy athletic smart guy with money the younger beautiful girls... agree?
    No. I have always been involved in athletics since high school and the fellows I know have girlfriends, wives and families like most others. I have not known my wealthier friends to be out chasing younger women...they tend to be on the golf course or vacationing in Maui with their grandchildren. It may be hard for some to comprehend but stereotypes from the pages of celebrity magazines are not the norm in society. The vast majority of men do not pursue much younger women and the vast majority off women are not interested in much older men regardless of their wealth...my sisters would be insulted that they could be 'bought'. Men and women are attracted to nice people they can relate to.
    Okay let me ask you different... who liked the girls most in high school and university? the nice guys? the athletic famous ones?
    As a guy if you go out looking to hook up with a girl, you might get lucky especially if your not to picky, but you still have a very good chance to go home by yourself. On the other side of the fence even if you are an ugly girl you have a very good chance of hooking up for the night. For those of you that have gone to popular night clubs and stayed until they close you can watch as the best looking girls start leaving first with the guys of their choice. The last hour you have only the least attractive girls left and the guys they hook up with have been drinking longer and notice all the remaining choices are fast disappearing. So you go home with an ugly woman or none at all and that choice happens more when you've been drinking. Sometimes a big shock in the morning when you wake up.
     

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    A popular night club? I'd guess that not one percent of the adult population goes to a night club. And I doubt if many who who do, go home with anybody other that with whom they came with. Some guys bemoan the fact that they don't have success with women. No wonder. They view a small subset of the population and then draw conclusions from the exaggerated claims of their buddies. Unlike yourself, the women I'm attracted to would not be going home with me or anyone else they hooked up with in a bar. And....I have no doubt that the vast majority of women would not go to a bar in hopes of being picked up by a stranger.
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    the more healty athlethic smart guy with money the younger beautyfuller girls... agree?
    No. I have always been involved in athletics since high school and the fellows I know have girlfriends, wives and families like most others. I have not known my wealthier friends to be out chasing younger women...they tend to be on the golf course or vacationing in Maui with their grandchildren. It may be hard for some to comprehend but stereotypes from the pages of celebrity magazines are not the norm in society. The vast majority of men do not pursue much younger women and the vast majority off women are not interested in much older men regardless of their wealth...my sisters would be insulted that they could be 'bought'.Men and women are attracted to nice people they can relate to.
    oke let me ask you different... who liked the girls most in high school and university? the nice guys? the athlethic famous ones?
    Who liked who? Every guy that was straight liked girls and every girl that was straight liked guys.
    im asking you... the girls of your school who did they like more athletic famous smart guys or fat nerdy glasses nice guys?
    That's not what you asked...I suppose English isn't your first language but that's fine as its not mine either. Keep at it, English isn't that hard.

    Can't answer. Never knew anybody famous in school...went to 4 high schools and two universities. People became well known, but much later in life. You would have to ask each individual girl who they found most attracted. My girlfriend and I both played guitar so had a common interest. My older sister's boyfriend was nerdy math geek and taught name chess. My brother was also a nerd with glasses ( but not fat ) and had a string of girlfriends.

    Anyways. Girls were attracted to guys. Hard to know what hormones are firing when.
     

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    A popular night club? I'd guess that not one percent of the adult population goes to a night club. And I doubt if many who who do, go home with anybody other that with whom they came with. Some guys bemoan the fact that they don't have success with women. No wonder. They view a small subset of the population and then draw conclusions from the exaggerated claims of their buddies. Unlike yourself, the women I'm attracted to would not be going home with me or anyone else they hooked up with in a bar. And....I have no doubt that the vast majority of women would not go to a bar in hopes of being picked up by a stranger.
    You'd be correct about the women that I have kept company with when we used to go to the pub or rodeo dances for entertainment. We would go as a group of girls and meet up with other guys and gals that we knew from work and the neighborhood etc. There were never any 'total strangers' as even if someone new was introduced to the group, they came as a known entity of someone else that was usually fairly well known to the rest of us. Most often when northern girls head out to the bar, they are just looking to have a good time...have a few drinks, shoot some pool, dance up a storm and flirt a bit with the gentlemen. No doubt some relationships progressed from time spent socializing with others and some of that time may well have been spent in bars, but as a starting point in looking for a hook-up? The odds might be good, but the goods would be odd. Pass...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fossilborealis View Post
    A popular night club? I'd guess that not one percent of the adult population goes to a night club. And I doubt if many who who do, go home with anybody other that with whom they came with. Some guys bemoan the fact that they don't have success with women. No wonder. They view a small subset of the population and then draw conclusions from the exaggerated claims of their buddies. Unlike yourself, the women I'm attracted to would not be going home with me or anyone else they hooked up with in a bar. And....I have no doubt that the vast majority of women would not go to a bar in hopes of being picked up by a stranger.
    I thought I was living in a cave... but... yes hmmm
     

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    the more healty athlethic smart guy with money the younger beautyfuller girls... agree?
    No. I have always been involved in athletics since high school and the fellows I know have girlfriends, wives and families like most others. I have not known my wealthier friends to be out chasing younger women...they tend to be on the golf course or vacationing in Maui with their grandchildren. It may be hard for some to comprehend but stereotypes from the pages of celebrity magazines are not the norm in society. The vast majority of men do not pursue much younger women and the vast majority off women are not interested in much older men regardless of their wealth...my sisters would be insulted that they could be 'bought'.Men and women are attracted to nice people they can relate to.
    oke let me ask you different... who liked the girls most in high school and university? the nice guys? the athlethic famous ones?
    Who liked who? Every guy that was straight liked girls and every girl that was straight liked guys.
    im asking you... the girls of your school who did they like more athletic famous smart guys or fat nerdy glasses nice guys?
    That's not what you asked...I suppose English isn't your first language but that's fine as its not mine either. Keep at it, English isn't that hard.

    Can't answer. Never knew anybody famous in school...went to 4 high schools and two universities. People became well known, but much later in life. You would have to ask each individual girl who they found most attracted. My girlfriend and I both played guitar so had a common interest. My older sister's boyfriend was nerdy math geek and taught name chess. My brother was also a nerd with glasses ( but not fat ) and had a string of girlfriends.

    Anyways. Girls were attracted to guys. Hard to know what hormones are firing when.
    you had your eyes back than didn't you...?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fossilborealis View Post
    A popular night club? I'd guess that not one percent of the adult population goes to a night club. And I doubt if many who who do, go home with anybody other that with whom they came with. Some guys bemoan the fact that they don't have success with women. No wonder. They view a small subset of the population and then draw conclusions from the exaggerated claims of their buddies. Unlike yourself, the women I'm attracted to would not be going home with me or anyone else they hooked up with in a bar. And....I have no doubt that the vast majority of women would not go to a bar in hopes of being picked up by a stranger.
    I was just using that example to picture a dynamic between men and women that probably happens more in the age group between 20 & 30. Very few men are going to score like rock stars and professional basketball players do. By the time Magic Johnson came down with aids, he claimed to have had sex with about 10,000 different women and he never had to go out looking for them. It wasn't just the money, but the fact that he was a very popular public figure that could afford to play around. By the way I heard that he was cured of aids. So his money did make a real difference to his life.
     

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    A popular night club? I'd guess that not one percent of the adult population goes to a night club. And I doubt if many who who do, go home with anybody other that with whom they came with. Some guys bemoan the fact that they don't have success with women. No wonder. They view a small subset of the population and then draw conclusions from the exaggerated claims of their buddies. Unlike yourself, the women I'm attracted to would not be going home with me or anyone else they hooked up with in a bar. And....I have no doubt that the vast majority of women would not go to a bar in hopes of being picked up by a stranger.
    I was just using that example to picture a dynamic between men and women that probably happens more in the age group between 20 & 30. Very few men are going to score like rock stars and professional basketball players do. By the time Magic Johnson came down with aids, he claimed to have had sex with about 10,000 different women and he never had to go out looking for them. It wasn't just the money, but the fact that he was a very popular public figure that could afford to play around. By the way I heard that he was cured of aids. So his money did make a real difference to his life.
    his name fits him magic jonson
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    the more healty athlethic smart guy with money the younger beautyfuller girls... agree?
    No. I have always been involved in athletics since high school and the fellows I know have girlfriends, wives and families like most others. I have not known my wealthier friends to be out chasing younger women...they tend to be on the golf course or vacationing in Maui with their grandchildren. It may be hard for some to comprehend but stereotypes from the pages of celebrity magazines are not the norm in society. The vast majority of men do not pursue much younger women and the vast majority off women are not interested in much older men regardless of their wealth...my sisters would be insulted that they could be 'bought'.Men and women are attracted to nice people they can relate to.
    oke let me ask you different... who liked the girls most in high school and university? the nice guys? the athlethic famous ones?
    you forgot the theatre arts guys, the shop guys, the nerdy guys, .....and they liked the girls most....each and everyone of them.
     

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    I don't know what age bracket you mean when talking about 'adolescent' girls. For me I would still date an 18yrold but I don't think it would last, and honestly, the only reason I'm probably dating her in the first place is because we are attracted to eachother.

    15yo girls look like 21yrolds these days. How could you blame an old dude if he did find a 15yrold attractive who looked like a 21yrold full grown woman?
     

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    A popular night club? I'd guess that not one percent of the adult population goes to a night club. And I doubt if many who who do, go home with anybody other that with whom they came with. Some guys bemoan the fact that they don't have success with women. No wonder. They view a small subset of the population and then draw conclusions from the exaggerated claims of their buddies. Unlike yourself, the women I'm attracted to would not be going home with me or anyone else they hooked up with in a bar. And....I have no doubt that the vast majority of women would not go to a bar in hopes of being picked up by a stranger.
    I was just using that example to picture a dynamic between men and women that probably happens more in the age group between 20 & 30. Very few men are going to score like rock stars and professional basketball players do. By the time Magic Johnson came down with aids, he claimed to have had sex with about 10,000 different women and he never had to go out looking for them. It wasn't just the money, but the fact that he was a very popular public figure that could afford to play around. By the way I heard that he was cured of aids. So his money did make a real difference to his life.
    IF you were a woman...would you ever think of having unprotected sex with him? Cure or not? Fair question.
     

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    the more healty athlethic smart guy with money the younger beautyfuller girls... agree?
    No. I have always been involved in athletics since high school and the fellows I know have girlfriends, wives and families like most others. I have not known my wealthier friends to be out chasing younger women...they tend to be on the golf course or vacationing in Maui with their grandchildren. It may be hard for some to comprehend but stereotypes from the pages of celebrity magazines are not the norm in society. The vast majority of men do not pursue much younger women and the vast majority off women are not interested in much older men regardless of their wealth...my sisters would be insulted that they could be 'bought'.Men and women are attracted to nice people they can relate to.
    oke let me ask you different... who liked the girls most in high school and university? the nice guys? the athlethic famous ones?
    you forgot the theatre arts guys, the shop guys, the nerdy guys, .....and they liked the girls most....each and everyone of them.
    for me there are actually only 2 choices
     

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    I don't know what age bracket you mean when talking about 'adolescent' girls. For me I would still date an 18yrold but I don't think it would last, and honestly, the only reason I'm probably dating her in the first place is because we are attracted to eachother.

    15yo girls look like 21yrolds these days. How could you blame an old dude if he did find a 15yrold attractive who looked like a 21yrold full grown woman?
    they do not look like 21 year old... they just look ripe becouse they are some get ripe younger
     

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    I don't know what age bracket you mean when talking about 'adolescent' girls. For me I would still date an 18yrold but I don't think it would last, and honestly, the only reason I'm probably dating her in the first place is because we are attracted to eachother.

    15yo girls look like 21yrolds these days. How could you blame an old dude if he did find a 15yrold attractive who looked like a 21yrold full grown woman?
    they do not look like 21 year old... they just look ripe becouse they are some get ripe younger
    Well whatever you wanna call it, some 15yo olds do not look 15, they look much older, especially with some makeup on and the way they dress. My point was if you are attracted to one of these girls who are 15 but look much older, can you really blame yourself?
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    I don't know what age bracket you mean when talking about 'adolescent' girls. For me I would still date an 18yrold but I don't think it would last, and honestly, the only reason I'm probably dating her in the first place is because we are attracted to eachother.

    15yo girls look like 21yrolds these days. How could you blame an old dude if he did find a 15yrold attractive who looked like a 21yrold full grown woman?
    they do not look like 21 year old... they just look ripe becouse they are some get ripe younger
    Well whatever you wanna call it, some 15yo olds do not look 15, they look much older, especially with some makeup on and the way they dress. My point was if you are attracted to one of these girls who are 15 but look much older, can you really blame yourself?
    I think my answer lyes in my previous post...
     

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    I don't know what age bracket you mean when talking about 'adolescent' girls. For me I would still date an 18yrold but I don't think it would last, and honestly, the only reason I'm probably dating her in the first place is because we are attracted to eachother.

    15yo girls look like 21yrolds these days. How could you blame an old dude if he did find a 15yrold attractive who looked like a 21yrold full grown woman?
    they do not look like 21 year old... they just look ripe becouse they are some get ripe younger
    Well whatever you wanna call it, some 15yo olds do not look 15, they look much older, especially with some makeup on and the way they dress. My point was if you are attracted to one of these girls who are 15 but look much older, can you really blame yourself?
    Yeah! Asking for an ID is not very romantic. Anyway the point of this topic is not would you hook up with an underage girl, but only if you feel attracted to them.
     

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    Yeah! Asking for an ID is not very romantic. Anyway the point of this topic is not would you hook up with an underage girl, but only if you feel attracted to them.
    The old ask for the ID chestnut never goes down well..

    When you start getting passed the "I was attracted to this 15yo old who looked 21 when I didn't know she was 15" and start getting into "I know she's 8 and I still wanna hit that" then you have a problem.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Huntsman View Post
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    Yeah! Asking for an ID is not very romantic. Anyway the point of this topic is not would you hook up with an underage girl, but only if you feel attracted to them.
    The old ask for the ID chestnut never goes down well..

    When you start getting passed the "I was attracted to this 15yo old who looked 21 when I didn't know she was 15" and start getting into "I know she's 8 and I still wanna hit that" then you have a problem.
    Yes I have to agree with you on that point. But at what age does that line between child and adult become blurred? I'm sure it's different with each person as one size does not fit all. It seems like all parents dread their little girls growing up, while the little girl just can hardly wait to grow up. Sometimes I have to wonder what causes most of the damage when an adult has sex with a child. The sex itself, or the fact that the parents are going berserk because of it.
     

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    Yeah! Asking for an ID is not very romantic. Anyway the point of this topic is not would you hook up with an underage girl, but only if you feel attracted to them.
    The old ask for the ID chestnut never goes down well..

    When you start getting passed the "I was attracted to this 15yo old who looked 21 when I didn't know she was 15" and start getting into "I know she's 8 and I still wanna hit that" then you have a problem.
    Yes I have to agree with you on that point. But at what age does that line between child and adult become blurred? I'm sure it's different with each person as one size does not fit all. It seems like all parents dread their little girls growing up, while the little girl just can hardly wait to grow up. Sometimes I have to wonder what causes most of the damage when an adult has sex with a child. The sex itself, or the fact that the parents are going berserk because of it.
    That's a good question. It would come down to so many variables. Being a decent human being with morals would be one of them. I wander too what would do the damage, whether the parents or the sex.. the more I think about it the more I think it's the parents if it was consentual on the kids behalf. I don't know, this is a touch and go subject which isn't black and white. I think you need to do it case by case to get a true judgement.
     

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    Picture removed.

    While you might think it's funny Huntsman, even clothed sexual suggestive pictures of young adolescents are inappropriate here and legally straddle a line we don't want to approach.

    Don't do it again.

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    Offensive picture removed.

    I realise that you posted this at much the same time as Lynx removed the earlier one (I didn't see that) so no ban this time. You're pushing your luck with this kind of stuff.

    Lift your game, young man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Huntsman View Post
    Picture removed.

    While you might think it's funny Huntsman, even clothed sexual suggestive pictures of young adolescents are inappropriate here and legally straddle a line we don't want to approach.

    Don't do it again.

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    I missed seeing that one

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    Well whatever you wanna call it, some 15yo olds do not look 15, they look much older, especially with some makeup on and the way they dress. My point was if you are attracted to one of these girls who are 15 but look much older, can you really blame yourself?
    You can't blame yourself for attraction; that's largely involuntary. You can blame yourself for acting on it.
     

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    Well whatever you wanna call it, some 15yo olds do not look 15, they look much older, especially with some makeup on and the way they dress. My point was if you are attracted to one of these girls who are 15 but look much older, can you really blame yourself?
    You can't blame yourself for attraction; that's largely involuntary. You can blame yourself for acting on it.

    Agreed. You have voices and you have choices. Although being involuntary sexually attracted to an 8yrold would be a sign of a problem.
     

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    It's odd. Mammals in the wild don't suckle because they think they should. They do because it feels good. And humans only have lost this?

    I don't wanna trap you, babe, into insisting you felt zero pleasure from breastfeeding. But I can't accept an all caps denial as reasonable argument. So, tell us how it is then.
    How in the hell do you know this?? Are you a mammal in the wild? jocular
     

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    A popular night club? I'd guess that not one percent of the adult population goes to a night club. And I doubt if many who who do, go home with anybody other that with whom they came with. Some guys bemoan the fact that they don't have success with women. No wonder. They view a small subset of the population and then draw conclusions from the exaggerated claims of their buddies. Unlike yourself, the women I'm attracted to would not be going home with me or anyone else they hooked up with in a bar. And....I have no doubt that the vast majority of women would not go to a bar in hopes of being picked up by a stranger.
    I was just using that example to picture a dynamic between men and women that probably happens more in the age group between 20 & 30. Very few men are going to score like rock stars and professional basketball players do. By the time Magic Johnson came down with aids, he claimed to have had sex with about 10,000 different women and he never had to go out looking for them. It wasn't just the money, but the fact that he was a very popular public figure that could afford to play around. By the way I heard that he was cured of aids. So his money did make a real difference to his life.
    his name fits him magic jonson
    Put into perspective, to achieve this dubious feat would require the screwing of a different woman, day after day, every day, seven days a week, for almost 9 years?

    Christ! The supply of eager women must be endless! Why the hell couldn't I have found some of them? jocular
     

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    I remember being fascinated by the stretch marks on the hips on my first lover.
    (Oddly enough, something that she felt shy about)
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    Put into perspective, to achieve this dubious feat would require the screwing of a different woman, day after day, every day, seven days a week, for almost 9 years?

    Christ! The supply of eager women must be endless! Why the hell couldn't I have found some of them? jocular
    Yes, you just need the right credentials of being popular, rich & reasonable looks, and yet if you ask women what they want, those things are not at the top of their list. If you have ever browsed the porn sites, you start thinking that the list of beautiful women willing to take their clothes off for money is almost endless yet it's hard to find just one that will do it for you. Anyway just a little food for thought.
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    Put into perspective, to achieve this dubious feat would require the screwing of a different woman, day after day, every day, seven days a week, for almost 9 years?

    Christ! The supply of eager women must be endless! Why the hell couldn't I have found some of them? jocular
    Yes, you just need the right credentials of being popular, rich & reasonable looks, and yet if you ask women what they want, those things are not at the top of their list. If you have ever browsed the porn sites, you start thinking that the list of beautiful women willing to take their clothes off for money is almost endless yet it's hard to find just one that will do it for you. Anyway just a little food for thought.
    im interested on females answers on this
     

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    Stretch marks on her hips? Geez! How is that possible, too much bicycling or jogging?
    Surely you've seen a pregnant woman or two. Unlike representations on film and television, not many pregnancies look like a "bump on the front" - well, not past 5 months anyway. And even if they are like that, all the skin in the neighbouring regions of the body gets pulled, if not stretched beyond endurance, to accommodate the stretching over the bump itself.
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    Put into perspective, to achieve this dubious feat would require the screwing of a different woman, day after day, every day, seven days a week, for almost 9 years?

    Christ! The supply of eager women must be endless! Why the hell couldn't I have found some of them? jocular
    Yes, you just need the right credentials of being popular, rich & reasonable looks, and yet if you ask women what they want, those things are not at the top of their list. If you have ever browsed the porn sites, you start thinking that the list of beautiful women willing to take their clothes off for money is almost endless yet it's hard to find just one that will do it for you. Anyway just a little food for thought.
    The only way a man is or every could get my clothes off....and like zero did till my husband is to be utterly funny, smart, have a great smile, take a joke and roll down the window to hide the fact they farted when we were necking. I nude beach so being naked isn't a big deal, however.....taking off my clothes for a man would have more than anything intended intimacy!
     

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    Stretch marks on her hips? Geez! How is that possible, too much bicycling or jogging? joc
    Or pregnancy. Or rapid onset of puberty. Or weight gain/loss. Lots of ways.
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    Stretch marks on her hips? Geez! How is that possible, too much bicycling or jogging? joc
    Or pregnancy. Or rapid onset of puberty. Or weight gain/loss. Lots of ways.
    Never had any...but had Girlfriends that did....usually attributed to pregnancy
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by adelady View Post
    Stretch marks on her hips? Geez! How is that possible, too much bicycling or jogging?
    Surely you've seen a pregnant woman or two. Unlike representations on film and television, not many pregnancies look like a "bump on the front" - well, not past 5 months anyway. And even if they are like that, all the skin in the neighbouring regions of the body gets pulled, if not stretched beyond endurance, to accommodate the stretching over the bump itself.
    I knew a small petite woman, that had 7 kids, and never had any stretch marks. I've also met a woman that only had one kid and had massive stretch mark scars. Some where I read that it was an inherited trait. My mom had two kids and she had some stretch mark scarring. So there is a whole range of stretch marks between zero and massive.
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    censorship sux

    I appreciate that the moderators fear losing control.
    I appreciate that some people cannot look at a (picture of?) a beautiful body without the image arousing prurient desires.
    but still

    censorship sux

    When I was studying anthropology I was constantly stymied by the censorship of the various pictures of everything from cave paintings to images from Egypt.
    It smacks to me of the "lowest common denominator" crap that I was forced to tolerate during the early years of my education.

    Are we not all reasonably intelligent adults?
    Are we not all in control of our actions as/re our desires?

    If we would discuss sexual preferences/desires, does not then having a visual reference to the subject at hand allow for a more honest and open discussion?
    If the pictures had been of ugly and fat, or obviously diseased youths, would the act of censorship have been so adamant and swift?

    All censorship, in that it seeks to hide knowledge, is evil.
    Must we live with one evil that is designed to obscure a potential evil?
    Is this the culmination of thousands of generations of evolution and millions of hours of knowledge accumulation?

    Have you ever read a redacted government document?
    It seems a boneheaded attempt to turn knowledge into garbage.

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    as for the stretch marks joc
    I dunno, they wuz already there when i got there.
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    Sculptor 'are we not all reasonably intelligent adults?'

    Those portrayed may not adults. The underaged are not adults. Some readers may not be adults.I can't stand censorship when all participants are adults but I certainly support it when all are not adults. In Canada and most western nations ( not the USA) we even welcome censorship of the press....those under 18 are now allowed to be identified in the media whether the victim or perpetrator of a crime. Once someone has full judgement then I agree with you...no censorship.
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    The 'censorship' in this case, is at the jurisprudence of the site administration. This is an internationally viewed site and the matter of law as it applies to the topic varies considerably around the planet. Law as it applies to the internet is yet in it's relative infancy but there are serious consequences for certain violations even now.

    When we agree to use this site, we agree to abide by the decisions made, regardless of our personal opinions. I take quite a broad view of most topics including death, religion and politics but I am less comfortable with blatant sexual discussion of juvenile females because I experienced sexual interference when I was young and I have very strong views which I do not post on public forums.

    To be fair, neither do I report things that offend me (excepting spam) because I recognize that others may not share my views.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sculptor View Post
    re our desires?

    If we would discuss sexual preferences/desires, does not then having a visual reference to the subject at hand allow for a more honest and open discussion?
    I fail to see what pictures would add to the (rather limited) science content of this thread.
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    I appreciate that the moderators fear losing control.
    I appreciate that some people cannot look at a (picture of?) a beautiful body without the image arousing prurient desires.
    but still
    Losing control?

    It's not just the picture. I realise that others can't see it now - but you did because you "liked" it. And it wasn't just a picture - was it. Was it?

    It had a huge font, one word caption. It also had a smaller print caption beneath that.

    Both of those were extremely offensive.

    Some people here have daughters or grand-daughters who are under the legal age of consent. Some people here are girls under the legal age of consent. If you think that a "joke" about statutory rape is OK, then you need a replacement sense of humour.
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    re our desires?

    If we would discuss sexual preferences/desires, does not then having a visual reference to the subject at hand allow for a more honest and open discussion?
    I fail to see what pictures would add to the (rather limited) science content of this thread.
    Let us "look" at this dispassionately:
    How many senses have we to feed our neural pathways?
    A good part of the foregoing discussion focused on just when, exactly, did/does a girl become a woman, and when along this process is it culturally acceptable to view the woman/girl as sexually desirable?
    from our senses
    women sound different than girls, but all i hear is Tchaikovsky
    Women smell different than girls (trust me on this)
    taste--------(never having tasted a child, i'll take a pass on this one)
    touch-------jeezzz all i can feel is this keyboard
    which leaves us with only one usable sense
    SIGHT
    (god bless it, I'm too damned old and insensitive to learn braille)

    Would you buy a book on wild mushrooms and go off into the wood harvesting and eating?
    Would you rather go out with a book that had lots and lots and lots of large full color pictures taken from all angles?

    You know the phrase: A picture is worth a thousand words.?

    One look at my work should indicate that I am visually oriented..I see the world around me as a series of fleeting images oer-lain with shading from my past..., I do not see most people/bodies as they are, but as a combination of the image in front of me and the image of the "perfect" which I carry inside my neural packaging.

    We could discuss the "Jailbate" picture and discuss just what about that picture bespoke "woman" and which bespoke "child"
    (To censor the word "jailbate" seems a tad odd to me.)
    which parts were woman?
    was it the coquettish tilt of the head?
    was it the obviously widening hips?
    was it the eyes? , or the hair, or the stance?
    which parts were child?
    was it the smile?
    was it the tilt of the shoulders?
    was it the thinnish legs?

    sans pictures we are wearing blinders
    Have you ever seen a horse wearing blinders?
    Do you know why they are there?

    For this medium:
    Sight, used to it's fullest possibilities is essential.
    Everything else becomes an esoteric exercise into the inane.
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    Sculptor,
    Are you saying you forgot what a girl looked like until somebody posted in this thread? How does it contribute toward answering the question posed in the thread title?
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    sculptor.
    (To censor the word "....." seems a tad odd to me.)

    Censor?

    I'm not a government official. This is not a government function.

    This forum is a private space and, just like a private house or a place of business, there are social and behavioural conventions here which may or may not apply elsewhere.

    One of those conventions is that these forums are intended to be suitable, even welcoming, to kids of school age and to women of any age who might find some of the free-for-all type technical or scientific sites on the net to be intimidating or offensive.

    If you want to keep rape jokes as part of your personal repertoire, you'll just have to find some other stage to perform them.
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    If you want to keep rape jokes as part of your personal repertoire, you'll just have to find some other stage to perform them.
    It's ok to watch comedy or video shows where people fall over and what not, but not anything that actually involves anybody really being hurt, I don't for one second imagine anyone on here does or even could find any aspect about the idea of rape as funny, it seems more of a misunderstanding.

    On a brighter note I did think that sculptor made some very well put, and artistically put I might add, scientific observations about the transition between being a woman and a child. Clearly this must have a stong bearing on the way someone is being percieved, whether they are starting to be noticed by men in general rather than just boys.
    But what thought was also interesting is how we are tending to focus purely on the physical aspects, such as how developed the body is ect..., by this I mean there also is a whole other element here, that being of the mental component. It surely can't be ignored that women are capable of influencing mens attitudes and attractions towards them, it's obviously not an entirely one sided affair. Regardless of the physical level of development their is the stage at which a young woman starts to make a conscious effort to attract mens attention.
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    Regardless of the physical level of development their is the stage at which a young woman starts to make a conscious effort to attract mens attention.
    But we're talking about young girls here. I was one of those a good while ago. What girls of that age are doing is practising adult women's behaviour. Most of them are about as clumsy and obvious about it as they sometimes are when engaging in adult conversations. They don't know what they're talking about, they use complex vocabulary in sometimes hilariously inappropriate ways, they're tediously oblivious when trying to impress with their (in their own opinion) precocious adult maturity, and ... they're boring.

    And the same thing goes for their attempts at adult 'relationship' style behaviours. It's the responsibility of grown men to be polite, nice about it, and not to take advantage of their naivety. In much the same way as they shouldn't demolish an argument advanced by a 14 year old with the full weight of competent argument or the devastating put down they might use in discussion with a mature adult who ought to know better. With a teenager in most situations, sensible, thoughtful adults take the opportunity to let the kid know that they've got more to learn before they can lay claim to full adult competence or participation.

    It's one thing for people to see that a young person is, or is becoming, sexually attractive. It's another thing entirely to treat that as sexual attraction which can or should be acted on. Perhaps Germaine Greer put it best in this interview

    Well, you can't stop the old man staring at the young girl and lusting. What are you going to do — tell old men that they must be blindfold or something? I don't think that's particularly creepy as long as they understand that they're not…they have no right to lay hands on that person. But you can't stop them. How could you? I mean, the luminous figure of a beautiful young girl walking down the street and the old men sitting on the wall, leaning on their sticks. What are you going to say? "Look the other way, you dreadful old bastards"? What are you going to say? It's part of the joy of life is admiring the beauty of things that are beautiful. What is important to me about the Boy is that once upon a time his beauty was understood and celebrated by people of both sexes. A boy was allowed to dress in very bright colours, he was allowed to show himself off in the street, he dyed his hair, he wore make-up, he wore a little cap tipped over his eye with a big feather in, he wore tight pants and cropped jackets and so on. And the girls looked down from behind their jalousie and talked about the best-looking boys."


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    Regardless of the physical level of development their is the stage at which a young woman starts to make a conscious effort to attract mens attention.
    But we're talking about young girls here. I was one of those a good while ago. What girls of that age are doing is practising adult women's behaviour. Most of them are about as clumsy and obvious about it as they sometimes are when engaging in adult conversations. They don't know what they're talking about, they use complex vocabulary in sometimes hilariously inappropriate ways, they're tediously oblivious when trying to impress with their (in their own opinion) precocious adult maturity, and ... they're boring.

    And the same thing goes for their attempts at adult 'relationship' style behaviours. It's the responsibility of grown men to be polite, nice about it, and not to take advantage of their naivety. In much the same way as they shouldn't demolish an argument advanced by a 14 year old with the full weight of competent argument or the devastating put down they might use in discussion with a mature adult who ought to know better. With a teenager in most situations, sensible, thoughtful adults take the opportunity to let the kid know that they've got more to learn before they can lay claim to full adult competence or participation.

    It's one thing for people to see that a young person is, or is becoming, sexually attractive. It's another thing entirely to treat that as sexual attraction which can or should be acted on. Perhaps Germaine Greer put it best in this interview

    Well, you can't stop the old man staring at the young girl and lusting. What are you going to do — tell old men that they must be blindfold or something? I don't think that's particularly creepy as long as they understand that they're not…they have no right to lay hands on that person. But you can't stop them. How could you? I mean, the luminous figure of a beautiful young girl walking down the street and the old men sitting on the wall, leaning on their sticks. What are you going to say? "Look the other way, you dreadful old bastards"? What are you going to say? It's part of the joy of life is admiring the beauty of things that are beautiful. What is important to me about the Boy is that once upon a time his beauty was understood and celebrated by people of both sexes. A boy was allowed to dress in very bright colours, he was allowed to show himself off in the street, he dyed his hair, he wore make-up, he wore a little cap tipped over his eye with a big feather in, he wore tight pants and cropped jackets and so on. And the girls looked down from behind their jalousie and talked about the best-looking boys."


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    I certainly wouldn't disagree with the point you are making, however I am seeking to highlight the absurdity of trying to seperate the mental and physical compenents here, just for an example how many women are attracted to guys who may initially look attractive (physically) only to be completely put off by their attitude when they start acting like a jerk. Well it's perhaps no real suprise here that also like you gals, we guys do also find that the way women act, i.e. the mental component, does also have a strong bearing on whether we are actually also attracted to them.

    The point I'm making is that whilst a young woman may have developed physically thus one aspect or component of possible attraction for guys, if she hasn't also matured mentally to match then it may still be the case that she isn't percieved as sexually desirable. All the focus seems to have been on the visual effect of physical development, I just thought the metal development aspect also needed highlighting if we are trying to examine this seriously.
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    I never considered that (censored) word "a rape joke"
    'tis but a phrase/word I'd heard often and, to the best of my knowledge, I've never known a rapist, nor a pedophile

    .........................

    Not what I'm saying at all Harold
    I was focusing on the transition and the social mores involved therein.
    We all know that "age of consent" and age of marriage varies widely over this peopled world.
    Personally, the age at first child in my family averages to the mid 30s--------(maybe social/sexual retardation runs in the family?)
    So, when I view a girl as having become a woman may (oddly enough) be at a tad older age than is the norm.

    Back to age of consent and appropriate societal mores.
    Let us assume that age itself is irrelevant, and that it is sexual maturity that is the trigger for desire.
    How then can we derive an accurate broadly based consensus of just when, within the development that is?
    Do we have a consensus as to what constitutes maturity?

    All of these remain an unknown and worthy of open investigation.

    protecting the children
    is always a worthy endeavor
    determining exactly what that means for all of the people all of the time remains problematic.

    I would protect children with knowledge about anything and everything. from knowledge they gain strength which will protect them long after I am gone.
    So we choose our paths from peculiar proclivities.

    (I just got a thing for censorship, and find self censorship whether from (not)using certain words to inculcation or avoidance of knowledge, becomes the worst of all censorship in that it tends to bigotry. but-that's just me)

    I understand that this is a private site and appreciate(i mean that word literally) the efforts you put into making of it a reasonably worthwhile experience.

    Thanks

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    to the best of my knowledge, I've never known a rapist, nor a pedophile
    Well, pedophiles are not very common. Rapists? Not so much.

    If you have ever known more than a hundred men, you certainly have known at least one, possibly several rapists. The best estimates - which aren't that wonderful, there's much better information on women victims than there is on perpetrators but we'll go with what we've got - have somewhere between 6% and 13% of men admitting to committing rape, and about two thirds of those are repeat rapists. So if you've known 300 men (as an example only, obviously you should have known far more that that many), somewhere between 4% and 9% are responsible for at least two rapes - the average for undetected repeat rapists is 5.8 rapes. Taking the low and high figures and the average number of offences, out of 300 acquaintances you could "know" as few as 12 and up to as many as 27 men who have committed between 70 and 150+ rapes. (Though it should be pointed out that the rate has been declining over the last 3 decades, so it really depends on the age groups. the older the men, the higher the likelihood.)

    The likelihood that you do not know a rapist is vanishingly small.

    http://www.davidlisak.com/wp-content...tedRapists.pdf
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    I find threads like this demeaning to women, in general. :/
     

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    censorship sux. I appreciate that the moderators fear losing control.
    This is actually a good example of moderators retaining control.

    I appreciate that some people cannot look at a (picture of?) a beautiful body without the image arousing prurient desires.
    Not the point and you know it.

    Are we not all reasonably intelligent adults?
    Are we not all in control of our actions as/re our desires?
    Yes. That doesn't mean that this privately operated board should allow pictures depicting pedophilia, or rape, or bestiality, or even trees if they don't want to. This is their board.

    If someone really want to see pictures of sexy underage girls there are plenty of other places they can do that. This is a science forum and it's not appropriate here.

    If we would discuss sexual preferences/desires, does not then having a visual reference to the subject at hand allow for a more honest and open discussion?
    If the pictures had been of ugly and fat, or obviously diseased youths, would the act of censorship have been so adamant and swift?
    Probably not - because that's not as contrary to the spirit of the board.

    It seems a boneheaded attempt to turn knowledge into garbage.
    Posting material like that seems an easier way to turn this site into garbage.
     

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    @ Sculptor: Sexist, shallow comments about women for starters.
    by whom?

    Or is it just the title and subject matter of the thread?
     

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    What data is there on men's sexual preferences?
    Just as a point of observation, folks, the OP of this thread joined on Sept. 24th and their last activity was on Oct. 1st.

    This is the only post made by Vanilla Moon, March 15, 1977 (36).

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    Quite the hot button topic. Not bad for a drive-by poster.
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    If you want to keep rape jokes as part of your personal repertoire, you'll just have to find some other stage to perform them.
    Sorry if that's how you viewed it. It wasn't intended like that at all. It was just a picture which highlighted some points that were being made in this thread, that you could be attracted to a younger girl who looks much older. A common term for these girls is jail bait. Sorry. I didn't mean to cause such a ruckus!
     

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    re our desires?

    If we would discuss sexual preferences/desires, does not then having a visual reference to the subject at hand allow for a more honest and open discussion?
    I fail to see what pictures would add to the (rather limited) science content of this thread.
    Moreover, I fail to grasp the undying fascination for the thread by all! joc
     

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    re our desires?

    If we would discuss sexual preferences/desires, does not then having a visual reference to the subject at hand allow for a more honest and open discussion?
    I fail to see what pictures would add to the (rather limited) science content of this thread.
    Moreover, I fail to grasp the undying fascination for the thread by all! joc Ditto
     

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    re our desires?

    If we would discuss sexual preferences/desires, does not then having a visual reference to the subject at hand allow for a more honest and open discussion?
    I fail to see what pictures would add to the (rather limited) science content of this thread.
    Moreover, I fail to grasp the undying fascination for the thread by all! joc Ditto
    Come on, Babe! The "sexpot" of Science Forum? joc
     

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    re our desires?

    If we would discuss sexual preferences/desires, does not then having a visual reference to the subject at hand allow for a more honest and open discussion?
    I fail to see what pictures would add to the (rather limited) science content of this thread.
    Moreover, I fail to grasp the undying fascination for the thread by all! joc Ditto
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    I never considered that (censored) word "a rape joke"
    'tis but a phrase/word I'd heard often and, to the best of my knowledge, I've never known a rapist, nor a pedophile

    .........................

    Not what I'm saying at all Harold
    I was focusing on the transition and the social mores involved therein.
    We all know that "age of consent" and age of marriage varies widely over this peopled world.
    Personally, the age at first child in my family averages to the mid 30s--------(maybe social/sexual retardation runs in the family?)
    So, when I view a girl as having become a woman may (oddly enough) be at a tad older age than is the norm.

    Back to age of consent and appropriate societal mores.
    Let us assume that age itself is irrelevant, and that it is sexual maturity that is the trigger for desire.
    How then can we derive an accurate broadly based consensus of just when, within the development that is?
    Do we have a consensus as to what constitutes maturity?

    All of these remain an unknown and worthy of open investigation.

    protecting the children
    is always a worthy endeavor
    determining exactly what that means for all of the people all of the time remains problematic.

    I would protect children with knowledge about anything and everything. from knowledge they gain strength which will protect them long after I am gone.
    So we choose our paths from peculiar proclivities.

    (I just got a thing for censorship, and find self censorship whether from (not)using certain words to inculcation or avoidance of knowledge, becomes the worst of all censorship in that it tends to bigotry. but-that's just me)

    I understand that this is a private site and appreciate(i mean that word literally) the efforts you put into making of it a reasonably worthwhile experience.

    Thanks

    ............
    but
    censorship still sux
    Certainly, censorship does suck.

    However in this instance, it is about the protection of minors and complying with the law.

    Images of children which sexualise children or images of naked children portrayed sexually or what would classify as child pornography could land this site in very hot water. At the very least, such images could find this site blacklisted by some ISP's as the decimation of child pornography is very much illegal. The result of that of course would mean that some areas, countries or internet providers would not be able to access this site.

    The management of this site would also run the risk of attracting members no one in their right mind would want to attract to their site. I speak of course of pedophiles who often use such sites to communicate freely with each other and post sexualised images of children for their own pleasure.

    Your comments on the age of consent laws varying to certain degrees around the world is interesting. There are some who wish to abolish the age of consent laws because they feel that children should be the ones to determine when they are ready to have sex with adults. In other words, pedophiles advocate that children should be able to consent to sex with adults. There are some parts of the world where children as young as 8 are being married off to middle aged men and some die as a result of the intercourse on their wedding nights. No one in their right mind would find this acceptable. Except of course pedophiles. Is there a middle ground? No. Age of consent laws exist for a reason and that is solely to protect the rights of children. The minds of children and teenagers, their brains, are not fully developed and they do not understand the consequences of having sex with adults, hence the laws and hence the censorship.

    This whole thread is a disgrace.

    I have been reading through it, amazed that in this day and age, that men can still continue to view women and now young girls as sex objects and how society continues to show some disdain while also encouraging it through the media, literature and even on sites like this. The stereotypes of the older leering man and the younger apparently stupid girl who is only in it for one thing. It is a disgrace.

    And then of course we have the vivid description of young girls as being "ripe", as though ripe for the picking, because they happen to look older or act or dress older. Which is then followed up, more disturbingly, with blaming the minor for being sexually attractive to the adult male - I won't even touch on where this often leads to, where rapists blame their victims for how they dress or look or how they somehow or other asked for it. And if that was not bad enough, one later questions the age where the child becomes an adult for sexual purposes. And worse yet, in the very same post, asks whether pedophilia is really bad because it harms the child or is it bad because the child's parents are angry and upset about it. And it gets even worse, when the response to that disgusting gem is the agreement that if a child consents to sex with an adult, then it is probably not that bad and it is only made to be bad when the parents react to it.

    And this is all just on one page.

    Apparently there are some who post here who believe that children can consent to sex with adults.

    Children cannot consent to sex with adults.

    There are no "if's" or "buts" to this point. Children cannot consent to sex with adults because their minds and their brains are not fully developed enough to understand the consequences, not to mention the extreme power imbalance between a child/adult relationship. While some who post here seem to believe it is acceptable to blame the minor for sexually attracting pedophiles, believe me, that is never the case.

    Sculptor, I noticed you later asked about why this thread was demeaning to women, in response to Wegs saying it was.

    It is not so much that it is demeaning to women in that it is disturbingly demeaning to women. Sexualising young girls, blaming victims of child sex abuse for sexually attracting their rapists or attention from the men who view her as a sex object, viewing and grading women like cattle (the comments regarding going to a nightclub is a prime example of this) for the object of sex, viewing women and young girls as sex objects, claiming that children can apparently consent to sex with adults and that it only becomes wrong if their parents kick up a fuss about it (disregarding the psychological damage it does to the child, much easier to blame the child than the sick bastard who has sex with the child).. All of this is not just demeaning to women.

    This whole thread, as I said before, is a disgrace.

    And frankly, complaining about censorship in light of all that has been said in this thread. The term or saying 'first world problem' applies here. Because if all you are worried about is censorship in light of what some have said in this thread, then I think you have it back to front.
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    I disagree actually.

    I think the thread started out fine, with some serious points being made. I suppose, though it was inevitable with a topic like this that the quality of the discussion would degenerate. But I do think topics such as this should be discussable in a science forum - one just has to separate the wheat from the chaff, unfortunately.

    It's very easy to express disgust, as Tranquille has done, and thus do what any mainstream politician would do if wanting to be uncontroversial. I find Tranquille's post shallow, in particular the refusal to deal with the reasonable point being made about the undoubted variation of the age of consent - and hence the notion of "children", when it comes to sexual activity - across time and culture. Even today, in the USA it - rather preposterously - varies by state, between 16 and 18. In the UK it is 16 but in France and Sweden 15, and as low as 13 in Spain. So it's quite plain there is a considerable penumbra of grey, surrounding the obvious black and white that I don't think any reasonable reader would challenge.

    The value of these forums is to take a few more risks with our thought than a vote-conscious politician, surely?
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    thanx Tranquille and exchemist

    In some of the comments you cited, and in others contained within this thread, I had begun to see patterns of response, some frivolous, some pithy.
    As I have previously stated, I do not find children sexually attractive(personally, I have only been attracted to women who I had found to be my intellectual of educational peers, and being a self described social retard, most of them actually were the sexual aggressors in our relationships), and am degreed in psychology. Originally, I thought the thread silly and unimportant, but as patterns began to emerge, I began to enjoy the developing conversation(even the heinous parts) from a psychological studies point of view.
    I am actually a very curious fellow. I find the peculiarities of our species fascinating. I came to study psychology from anthropology(also degreed), and consider those 2 disciplines as actually one discipline with different lexicons(especially so for cultural anthropology). Often, taboo is at the same time very telling about aspects of human nature as well as obscuring those same aspects. Whenever I find "taboo" I tend to push on it in hopes of (so to speak) peaking under it's skirts. For instance, have you ever tried to engage a man in a discussion about his mother's sexuality? After numerous attempts, I came to the conclusion that in all likelihood the responses indicated just why, exactly, one of our major religions has a virgin as "the mother of god". If you are a Christian, try, for a moment to visualize Mary, the mother of god, soaked in sweat, in the throws of orgasm as she conceived your lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ. Did she cry out "OH GOD OH GOD" as she entered orgasm? Taboo is a very peculiar thing.
    It was once common in psychology to assume that the thing/taboo which elicits the most anger and negative responses is actually indicative of the underlying desires of the subject, and the anger is there to mask being "found out".
    So much for "taboo"?

    That being said:
    I had thought that having a picture as a frame of reference, might help to focus on when and what, exactly it was about the changes of the body that led to sexual attraction by my "fellow man".
    And this, being a "science" site, the potential for academic freedom of inquiry into a very basic component of the "human condition" might be apropos of the community.
    In this, it would appear that I had erred.
    No offense intended, and my apologies to any and all whom I may have offended.

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    I guess that the foregoing means that we ain't gonna see no more pictures?
     

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    I don't wanna to sound harsh but... there are everywhere photograps of everything the most parents etc post themselves (without text) afcourse and it wasn't my intention to make this forum less FREE I mean half world has some kind of manneke pis (of brussel) there is no bad intention behind it... phedophilia or whatever... even back in time where there are children angels and today everywhere ... such images are everywhere bit of art some jokes and more this wont make this forum from nowhere an site against the law or pro phedophila site... (but than again I didn't see the photograps) I just found about 3 posts going in a way... I wouldent like to see this forum going into that way... that's again just me
     

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    OUTSTANDING post, Tranquille!!
    I disagree actually.

    I think the thread started out fine, with some serious points being made. I suppose, though it was inevitable with a topic like this that the quality of the discussion would degenerate. But I do think topics such as this should be discussable in a science forum - one just has to separate the wheat from the chaff, unfortunately.

    It's very easy to express disgust, as Tranquille has done, and thus do what any mainstream politician would do if wanting to be uncontroversial. I find Tranquille's post shallow, in particular the refusal to deal with the reasonable point being made about the undoubted variation of the age of consent - and hence the notion of "children", when it comes to sexual activity - across time and culture. Even today, in the USA it - rather preposterously - varies by state, between 16 and 18. In the UK it is 16 but in France and Sweden 15, and as low as 13 in Spain. So it's quite plain there is a considerable penumbra of grey, surrounding the obvious black and white that I don't think any reasonable reader would challenge.

    The value of these forums is to take a few more risks with our thought than a vote-conscious politician, surely?
    How do your points here, address the original question posed by the OP?
     

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    thanx Tranquille and exchemist

    In some of the comments you cited, and in others contained within this thread, I had begun to see patterns of response, some frivolous, some pithy.
    As I have previously stated, I do not find children sexually attractive(personally, I have only been attracted to women who I had found to be my intellectual of educational peers, and being a self described social retard, most of them actually were the sexual aggressors in our relationships), and am degreed in psychology. Originally, I thought the thread silly and unimportant, but as patterns began to emerge, I began to enjoy the developing conversation(even the heinous parts) from a psychological studies point of view.
    I am actually a very curious fellow. I find the peculiarities of our species fascinating. I came to study psychology from anthropology(also degreed), and consider those 2 disciplines as actually one discipline with different lexicons(especially so for cultural anthropology). Often, taboo is at the same time very telling about aspects of human nature as well as obscuring those same aspects. Whenever I find "taboo" I tend to push on it in hopes of (so to speak) peaking under it's skirts. For instance, have you ever tried to engage a man in a discussion about his mother's sexuality? After numerous attempts, I came to the conclusion that in all likelihood the responses indicated just why, exactly, one of our major religions has a virgin as "the mother of god". If you are a Christian, try, for a moment to visualize Mary, the mother of god, soaked in sweat, in the throws of orgasm as she conceived your lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ. Did she cry out "OH GOD OH GOD" as she entered orgasm? Taboo is a very peculiar thing.
    It was once common in psychology to assume that the thing/taboo which elicits the most anger and negative responses is actually indicative of the underlying desires of the subject, and the anger is there to mask being "found out".
    So much for "taboo"?

    That being said:
    I had thought that having a picture as a frame of reference, might help to focus on when and what, exactly it was about the changes of the body that led to sexual attraction by my "fellow man".
    And this, being a "science" site, the potential for academic freedom of inquiry into a very basic component of the "human condition" might be apropos of the community.
    In this, it would appear that I had erred.
    No offense intended, and my apologies to any and all whom I may have offended.

    .........................
    I guess that the foregoing means that we ain't gonna see no more pictures?
    Sculptor you're an odd fellow, certainly. Part of what you say seems sensible but then you lower the tone needlessly with cheap cracks about the Virgin Mary and tacky pictures. So now I don't know whether to take you for a serious contributor or a jerk. I fear you are your own worst enemy.
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    OUTSTANDING post, Tranquille!!
    I disagree actually.

    I think the thread started out fine, with some serious points being made. I suppose, though it was inevitable with a topic like this that the quality of the discussion would degenerate. But I do think topics such as this should be discussable in a science forum - one just has to separate the wheat from the chaff, unfortunately.

    It's very easy to express disgust, as Tranquille has done, and thus do what any mainstream politician would do if wanting to be uncontroversial. I find Tranquille's post shallow, in particular the refusal to deal with the reasonable point being made about the undoubted variation of the age of consent - and hence the notion of "children", when it comes to sexual activity - across time and culture. Even today, in the USA it - rather preposterously - varies by state, between 16 and 18. In the UK it is 16 but in France and Sweden 15, and as low as 13 in Spain. So it's quite plain there is a considerable penumbra of grey, surrounding the obvious black and white that I don't think any reasonable reader would challenge.

    The value of these forums is to take a few more risks with our thought than a vote-conscious politician, surely?
    How do your points here, address the original question posed by the OP?
    They don't. I made my own responses to the OP at an earlier stage.

    My points here address those made by a subsequent post. As is usual in forum discussions.
     

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    OUTSTANDING post, Tranquille!!
    I disagree actually.

    I think the thread started out fine, with some serious points being made. I suppose, though it was inevitable with a topic like this that the quality of the discussion would degenerate. But I do think topics such as this should be discussable in a science forum - one just has to separate the wheat from the chaff, unfortunately.

    It's very easy to express disgust, as Tranquille has done, and thus do what any mainstream politician would do if wanting to be uncontroversial. I find Tranquille's post shallow, in particular the refusal to deal with the reasonable point being made about the undoubted variation of the age of consent - and hence the notion of "children", when it comes to sexual activity - across time and culture. Even today, in the USA it - rather preposterously - varies by state, between 16 and 18. In the UK it is 16 but in France and Sweden 15, and as low as 13 in Spain. So it's quite plain there is a considerable penumbra of grey, surrounding the obvious black and white that I don't think any reasonable reader would challenge.

    The value of these forums is to take a few more risks with our thought than a vote-conscious politician, surely?
    How do your points here, address the original question posed by the OP?
    They don't. I made my own responses to the OP at an earlier stage.

    My points here address those made by a subsequent post. As is usual in forum discussions.
    I think Tranquille's post is outstanding. If you find it shallow...we will have to agree to disagree.
     

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    thanx Tranquille and exchemist

    In some of the comments you cited, and in others contained within this thread, I had begun to see patterns of response, some frivolous, some pithy.
    As I have previously stated, I do not find children sexually attractive(personally, I have only been attracted to women who I had found to be my intellectual of educational peers, and being a self described social retard, most of them actually were the sexual aggressors in our relationships), and am degreed in psychology. Originally, I thought the thread silly and unimportant, but as patterns began to emerge, I began to enjoy the developing conversation(even the heinous parts) from a psychological studies point of view.
    I am actually a very curious fellow. I find the peculiarities of our species fascinating. I came to study psychology from anthropology(also degreed), and consider those 2 disciplines as actually one discipline with different lexicons(especially so for cultural anthropology). Often, taboo is at the same time very telling about aspects of human nature as well as obscuring those same aspects. Whenever I find "taboo" I tend to push on it in hopes of (so to speak) peaking under it's skirts. For instance, have you ever tried to engage a man in a discussion about his mother's sexuality? After numerous attempts, I came to the conclusion that in all likelihood the responses indicated just why, exactly, one of our major religions has a virgin as "the mother of god". If you are a Christian, try, for a moment to visualize Mary, the mother of god, soaked in sweat, in the throws of orgasm as she conceived your lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ. Did she cry out "OH GOD OH GOD" as she entered orgasm? Taboo is a very peculiar thing.
    It was once common in psychology to assume that the thing/taboo which elicits the most anger and negative responses is actually indicative of the underlying desires of the subject, and the anger is there to mask being "found out".
    So much for "taboo"?

    That being said:
    I had thought that having a picture as a frame of reference, might help to focus on when and what, exactly it was about the changes of the body that led to sexual attraction by my "fellow man".
    And this, being a "science" site, the potential for academic freedom of inquiry into a very basic component of the "human condition" might be apropos of the community.
    In this, it would appear that I had erred.
    No offense intended, and my apologies to any and all whom I may have offended.

    .........................
    I guess that the foregoing means that we ain't gonna see no more pictures?
    Sculptor you're an odd fellow, certainly. Part of what you say seems sensible but then you lower the tone needlessly with cheap cracks about the Virgin Mary and tacky pictures. So now I don't know whether to take you for a serious contributor or a jerk. I fear you are your own worst enemy.
    Indeed Sir:
    When I come upon "taboo" my response ain't very cordial-'tis but a form of inquiry----which bears many negative consequences.
    Religion seems fertile ground for "taboo".
    .....
    as re the second deleted picture
    personally, i saw nothing of sexual attraction there, I did see, as adelady pointed out certain attempts by the girl to seem sexually attractive---------completely disregarding any age difference of the viewers of said photograph.

    as/re the age of concent
    Is it considered OK for two fifteen year olds to have sex and view each other as sexually desireable?
    How about where one is 17 and one 15?
    How about when one is 13, and one 17?
    How about when one is 16 and one 22?
    How about when one is 19 and one 39? (reference Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall wherein, she is said to have been the initiator of their relationship)
    ...............
    the age thing seems arbitrary, and largly hinges on age disparity?
    Is there an age specific consensus by those who would limit these discussions?
     

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    OUTSTANDING post, Tranquille!!
    I disagree actually.

    I think the thread started out fine, with some serious points being made. I suppose, though it was inevitable with a topic like this that the quality of the discussion would degenerate. But I do think topics such as this should be discussable in a science forum - one just has to separate the wheat from the chaff, unfortunately.

    It's very easy to express disgust, as Tranquille has done, and thus do what any mainstream politician would do if wanting to be uncontroversial. I find Tranquille's post shallow, in particular the refusal to deal with the reasonable point being made about the undoubted variation of the age of consent - and hence the notion of "children", when it comes to sexual activity - across time and culture. Even today, in the USA it - rather preposterously - varies by state, between 16 and 18. In the UK it is 16 but in France and Sweden 15, and as low as 13 in Spain. So it's quite plain there is a considerable penumbra of grey, surrounding the obvious black and white that I don't think any reasonable reader would challenge.

    The value of these forums is to take a few more risks with our thought than a vote-conscious politician, surely?
    How do your points here, address the original question posed by the OP?
    They don't. I made my own responses to the OP at an earlier stage.

    My points here address those made by a subsequent post. As is usual in forum discussions.
    I think Tranquille's post is outstanding. If you find it shallow...we will have to agree to disagree.
    In what way is that a reply to my post ?

    (only kidding - we can of course disagree about many things and still correspond amicably)
     

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    thanx Tranquille and exchemist

    In some of the comments you cited, and in others contained within this thread, I had begun to see patterns of response, some frivolous, some pithy.
    As I have previously stated, I do not find children sexually attractive(personally, I have only been attracted to women who I had found to be my intellectual of educational peers, and being a self described social retard, most of them actually were the sexual aggressors in our relationships), and am degreed in psychology. Originally, I thought the thread silly and unimportant, but as patterns began to emerge, I began to enjoy the developing conversation(even the heinous parts) from a psychological studies point of view.
    I am actually a very curious fellow. I find the peculiarities of our species fascinating. I came to study psychology from anthropology(also degreed), and consider those 2 disciplines as actually one discipline with different lexicons(especially so for cultural anthropology). Often, taboo is at the same time very telling about aspects of human nature as well as obscuring those same aspects. Whenever I find "taboo" I tend to push on it in hopes of (so to speak) peaking under it's skirts. For instance, have you ever tried to engage a man in a discussion about his mother's sexuality? After numerous attempts, I came to the conclusion that in all likelihood the responses indicated just why, exactly, one of our major religions has a virgin as "the mother of god". If you are a Christian, try, for a moment to visualize Mary, the mother of god, soaked in sweat, in the throws of orgasm as she conceived your lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ. Did she cry out "OH GOD OH GOD" as she entered orgasm? Taboo is a very peculiar thing.
    It was once common in psychology to assume that the thing/taboo which elicits the most anger and negative responses is actually indicative of the underlying desires of the subject, and the anger is there to mask being "found out".
    So much for "taboo"?

    That being said:
    I had thought that having a picture as a frame of reference, might help to focus on when and what, exactly it was about the changes of the body that led to sexual attraction by my "fellow man".
    And this, being a "science" site, the potential for academic freedom of inquiry into a very basic component of the "human condition" might be apropos of the community.
    In this, it would appear that I had erred.
    No offense intended, and my apologies to any and all whom I may have offended.

    .........................
    I guess that the foregoing means that we ain't gonna see no more pictures?
    Sculptor you're an odd fellow, certainly. Part of what you say seems sensible but then you lower the tone needlessly with cheap cracks about the Virgin Mary and tacky pictures. So now I don't know whether to take you for a serious contributor or a jerk. I fear you are your own worst enemy.
    Indeed Sir:
    When I come upon "taboo" my response ain't very cordial-'tis but a form of inquiry----which bears many negative consequences.
    Religion seems fertile ground for "taboo".
    .....
    as re the second deleted picture
    personally, i saw nothing of sexual attraction there, I did see, as adelady pointed out certain attempts by the girl to seem sexually attractive---------completely disregarding any age difference of the viewers of said photograph.

    as/re the age of concent
    Is it considered OK for two fifteen year olds to have sex and view each other as sexually desireable?
    How about where one is 17 and one 15?
    How about when one is 13, and one 17?
    How about when one is 16 and one 22?
    How about when one is 19 and one 39? (reference Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall wherein, she is said to have been the initiator of their relationship)
    ...............
    the age thing seems arbitrary, and largly hinges on age disparity?
    Is there an age specific consensus by those who would limit these discussions?
    I think there are answers to the latter set of questions further up the thread. I don't intend to reiterate the views I've already expressed.

    As for "taboo", I think you have a slightly grandiose idea of yourself as taking on taboos, when all you are doing is being distasteful. It is impolite - on a forum open to all ages - to recite an imaginary dialogue of someone during an imagined act of sexual congress. Whether it is the Virgin Mary or your next door neighbour makes no difference. There is no need for it: it makes no point that could not be made in a more civil way. It's just uncouth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harold14370 View Post
    I think some of you guys must have your wives reading over your shoulders. Come on, let your inner pigs shine through. For pure physical attraction, the girl on the Stuff cover is what we want.
    hypocracy?
    so the inner pig starts to "shine through"
    and what happens?

    SQUASHED by the giant feet of the moderator squad.

    kin we call'em the mod squad?

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    for stomping out forest fires
    why do elephants have flat feet?
    for stomping out burning ducks?

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    Even today, in the USA it - rather preposterously - varies by state, between 16 and 18. In the UK it is 16 but in France and Sweden 15, and as low as 13 in Spain. So it's quite plain there is a considerable penumbra of grey, surrounding the obvious black and white that I don't think any reasonable reader would challenge.
    The fact that people choose different ages for this crossover point is beside the point. There has to be a crossover point and we know that there are individual differences in sexual and emotional maturity. The fact that the ages chosen are arbitrary and influenced by particular histories and cultures is a given. It has to be arbitrary in the absence of any universal yardstick and we have to live with the sometimes confusing results of that. (If we were honest, we'd judge the 'responsible sexual behaviour' point for some individuals at 22 or 35 years rather than in their teens.)

    Communities and their representatives have to make these decisions on the best available information and they can differ. The most important thing to notice is that, in modern democracies, it's never below 12. And anyone arguing for a younger age in a modern democracy would never concede an age below 12 as being anything other than a pedophile's charter.

    The value of these forums is to take a few more risks with our thought than a vote-conscious politician, surely?
    These forums? These particular forums?

    I'd strongly disagree about "risking" discussing pedophile (or even ephebophile) preferences in forums where we welcome school age kids into the discussion. There's also the problem of child abuse in the history of adults. The statistics tell us some remarkably horrible things. The main one being that far more people than you'd think have been sexually abused as children or as teens. https://www.rainn.org/get-informatio...ssault-victims

    If you want to discuss issues of sexual consent and age of consent and what does and doesn't count as rape or sexual assault, there are "safe spaces" on the internet where you can do this. I'd recommend starting with a blog like http://yesmeansyesblog.wordpress.com...ape-seriously/ or one of the places listed on the blog roll there.

    Here, we don't have the moderator skills or the intense, close attention approach needed to keep such discussions safe for participants and visitors and we really, really don't want to be putting Trigger Warnings on posts and comments and banning people left right and centre which is how such discussions are run properly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by exchemist View Post
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    OUTSTANDING post, Tranquille!!
    I disagree actually.

    I think the thread started out fine, with some serious points being made. I suppose, though it was inevitable with a topic like this that the quality of the discussion would degenerate. But I do think topics such as this should be discussable in a science forum - one just has to separate the wheat from the chaff, unfortunately.

    It's very easy to express disgust, as Tranquille has done, and thus do what any mainstream politician would do if wanting to be uncontroversial. I find Tranquille's post shallow, in particular the refusal to deal with the reasonable point being made about the undoubted variation of the age of consent - and hence the notion of "children", when it comes to sexual activity - across time and culture. Even today, in the USA it - rather preposterously - varies by state, between 16 and 18. In the UK it is 16 but in France and Sweden 15, and as low as 13 in Spain. So it's quite plain there is a considerable penumbra of grey, surrounding the obvious black and white that I don't think any reasonable reader would challenge.

    The value of these forums is to take a few more risks with our thought than a vote-conscious politician, surely?
    Then you misunderstood the point of my post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquille
    complaining about censorship in light of all that has been said in this thread. The term or saying 'first world problem' applies here. Because if all you are worried about is censorship in light of what some have said in this thread, then I think you have it back to front.
    I have no problem in dealing or discussing age of consent laws across our planet or the dangers of pedophilia and how internet forums and chatrooms are now fodder for pedophiles, in an appropriate forum. This forum, being open to public view and easily accessible to minors, is not the place for it.

    What I do have an issue with, is in the face of even having people asking if it really is pedophilia if an adult has sex with a child if the child consented (ignoring the fact that a child cannot actually consent) or if it is only wrong if it upsets the parents, that the only complaint to be made is censorship because some pictures sexualising children were removed from the thread. Of all the things actually wrong in this thread, to complain about a couple of removed images because they were inappropriate and could land this site in hot water in some parts of the world, resulting in an ISP ban if even a guest reading through it files a complaint that this site may be distributing child pornography?

    And by the way, in Spain, while the age of consent is 13 years of age, you also failed to address why it is what it is and also how if a parent files a complaint about an adult having sex with their under 16 child, then that adult can be charged. If the adult deceives or leads the child on or encourages the under 16 year old child to have sex with them, then yes, they can be charged. And the consent laws in Spain was brought down to 13 years of age because children who were homosexual were being arrested for any homosexual acts between themselves. Ergo, the age of consent laws in Spain apply more to children who have sex with their peers, not for adults to have sex with children.

    You may think my post is shallow and you are free to your opinion. Just as I am free to mine and free to express my disgust with the attitudes of some who post here.
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    I'd noticed the thread has taken a turn from discussing whether men in general have a tendency of sexually imprinting onto females of adolescent age (between 10 to 19 years of age) instead of a females of a wider age range suggesting being further along in sexual maturity, and into the recent somewhat emotionally charged drama.

    Just saying.
     

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    Discussing 'Age of Consent laws' ... is an utterly useless thing to be talking about when asked:

    Do most men have sexual preferences for adolescent girls?
    Men will have a sexual preference for that female or girl he thinks he can make a baby with.

    Problem is, our human cultural brain, and our natural needs, are not always in sync, thanks to our well developed great ape brain.

    I think most males wont see a problem having sex with a younger girl, if they can get away with it, the spous not noticing.
    No spouse no problem, then ofcourse they will have sex with a younger girl, under normal circumstances.
    I think most males would even prefer it even,...as a younger female would mean this female would have a longer lifespan ahead of her, to watch over his offspring, after he injected his semen in her, to pop out his kids.

    But 'adolescent girl' is an cultural determined and also judicial word.

    I would prefer the OP to clarify it,....
     

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    May I respectfully suggest to the moderators that it is time this thread was closed. It has explored the query beyond the point of becoming ridiculous and some posts have turned in undesirable directions. Time for a full stop, methinks.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by skeptic View Post
    May I respectfully suggest to the moderators that it is time this thread was closed. It has explored the query beyond the point of becoming ridiculous and some posts have turned in undesirable directions. Time for a full stop, methinks.
    I agree.

    Close it.
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