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  1. #1 Psycology of a long time marijuana smoker! 
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    You may of guessed now, by my English literature and spag, that my mind at times is somewhat retarded. This is a psycological effect of smoking dope from the age of 15 until now, the age of 39 , 40 this year. 25 years of toking away, mindless moments carried away by imagination.

    My recent attack on science, I can not even remember what I said in post form.

    Short term memory loss is a definite part of long term marijuana use.


    Sympton's of long term use create similar phsysical effects to the body, that CFS has.

    Paranoia and dillusion's become a part of every day life.

    Amazingly every winter I show signs of CFS, has the weather warms, my body starts to feels alive.

    My mind at times lives in a disociated state of a different reality.


    Interestingly though, I control my thought with logic and not medicine use.

    I am/was, a clever person, a wasted life that could of achieved great goals.


    The point to my post, forums , just by expressing myself, has eased my mind of confusion, I feel in better control, and the warmer weather is making me feel energetic,


    MY question would be why?


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    Well, that explains a lot.

    Delusional, incoherent, rambling posts with no ... brownies! I need brownies now. Or maybe when I have finished the ... what was I saying ...

    Please don't bother to post here again until you are drug free.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
    Well, that explains a lot.

    Delusional, incoherent, rambling posts with no ... brownies! I need brownies now. Or maybe when I have finished the ... what was I saying ...

    Please don't bother to post here again until you are drug free.
    I understand strange, I am not proud of been a stoner, it is said to be none addictive, that is wrong. I went the doctors, he told me do not bother quiting when I wanted to quit. There is no help in the UK for this. It is hard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theorist View Post
    You may of guessed now, by my English literature and spag, that my mind at times is somewhat retarded. This is a psycological effect of smoking dope from the age of 15 until now, the age of 39 , 40 this year. 25 years of toking away, mindless moments carried away by imagination.

    My recent attack on science, I can not even remember what I said in post form.

    Short term memory loss is a definite part of long term marijuana use.


    Sympton's of long term use create similar phsysical effects to the body, that CFS has.

    Paranoia and dillusion's become a part of every day life.

    Amazingly every winter I show signs of CFS, has the weather warms, my body starts to feels alive.

    My mind at times lives in a disociated state of a different reality.


    Interestingly though, I control my thought with logic and not medicine use.

    I am/was, a clever person, a wasted life that could of achieved great goals.


    The point to my post, forums , just by expressing myself, has eased my mind of confusion, I feel in better control, and the warmer weather is making me feel energetic,


    MY question would be why?
    I know people that have smoked dope every day for 40 years, and they don't seem to have your problems. All I can say is if you believe it's affecting the quality of your life, why not just stop doing it? Sounds like you believe it's causing the current problems your having. Do you think you can't stop?
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    Quote Originally Posted by theorist View Post
    I went the doctors, he told me do not bother quiting when I wanted to quit.
    He was probably stoned. I'm sure there are sources of help (if you can be bothered to look.)
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    I know people that have smoked dope every day for 40 years, and they don't seem to have your problems. All I can say is if you believe it's affecting the quality of your life, why not just stop doing it? Sounds like you believe it's causing the current problems your having. Do you think you can't stop?[/QUOTE]

    I smoke from when I wake up, until I sleep. I can not beleive people who smoke for 40 years lead a normal life. They may live a normal life, has I do, but I imagine deep down they suffer. I see my freinds suffering, they smoke, at times like 'craved crack' heads just over a weed.


    I have tried to quit on several times, I can only explain it has I start to feel gravity on my brain. It feels 'like I am dying' or 'I have a brain bleed' when I try to stop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
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    I went the doctors, he told me do not bother quiting when I wanted to quit.
    He was probably stoned. I'm sure there are sources of help (if you can be bothered to look.)
    The problem is even though it is illegal in the uk, no one cares including the police. They let you get on with it as long it not big amounts. I have seen people smoking in front of the police.
    So help is hard to find.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theorist View Post
    I smoke from when I wake up, until I sleep. I can not believe people who smoke for 40 years lead a normal life. They may live a normal life, has I do, but I imagine deep down they suffer. I see my friends suffering, they smoke, at times like 'craved crack' heads just over a weed.

    I have tried to quit on several times, I can only explain it has I start to feel gravity on my brain. It feels 'like I am dying' or 'I have a brain bleed' when I try to stop.
    Do you have any non smoking friends? If not you are in big trouble. Anyway if you really want to change your life, it's not that tough to quit and I know from experience.
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    Find something else to fill that void. I'd suggest reading.
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    Some of you are not understanding the power of addiction.

    See, I am not an alcoholic. I lack the capacity. Oh, I've had my drinking days- believe you me. I stopped drinking, though. And for me, it was easy. I simply do not crave it. Consider me fortunate.
    Yet, do a little research on alcoholism. It's a serious addiction. It doesn't matter what you are addicted to- each addict follows a certain pattern of behavior as if addicts are cut from a mould. The addict takes over who you are.
    I have a lot of experience with addicts.
    It's not so easy as 'just stop doing it.' Not only is it not easy, it's extremely difficult.

    Do you think crackheads LIKE their lifestyle? Addiction is like a life-threatening disease and an addict must pretty much hit rock bottom before they can muster up the strength to try to overcome the power of that addiction. They never really do, though. A man 40 years sober is still an alcoholic and he must maintain his sobriety with determination.

    Suggesting reading, or chewing gum is absurd. I think you two are lucky that you are so naive about this. Don't get me wrong. You're lucky... But you're also in error.
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    Theorist,

    I do not think anyone can totally say your memory loss is the result of your using dope as you call it. There are so many people suffering from memory loss these days; even children are coming into the new arena. There are numerous reasons why you could be experiencing this. However, you cannot expect to be using any one substance and signs of degeneration not show up. I would like to say that addiction is a part of every day life. Some of the people on the forum are addicted to the TSF, if you told them they were, they would deny it I am sure. It is like saying to a staggering drunk "you are drunk", what do you expect him to say? The other most important factor I would argue, is the use of any substance, if you do not moderately use it, it will come back to haunt you. If you are trying to stop, most times you will have to do it slowly. Wile you are withdrawing you will notice some effects that you have not experienced before and wonder if you are going off. A warmth problem you speak of could be coming from bad blood flow and expansion of nerve tissues in the part of the brain responsible for cognitive thinking. Mind you, I am not a doctor, I am just giving you some information I picked up along the way. Stopping is easier said than done, and as I have noticed, some people on the forum think one can just stop anything until they come into the same dilemma as you. All they have to do is do is not come to the forum, I can assure you they would become miserable and frustrated. There is I think, a part of reality that is missing for you, maybe you cannot tell if you were doped or natural anymore, I would hate for this to happen to me, however I do not think it is too late for anything to change. I suggest you take it slow and continue to share your plight with other people while you take your time in coming off the what ever you are taking.
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    Say what you will about marijuana, I'd rather hang out with stoners anyday over drunks. Luckily I've only had very short stays with either one of those groups. My social groups have never been drunks or stoners. It's a choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PumaMan View Post
    Say what you will about marijuana, I'd rather hang out with stoners anyday over drunks. Luckily I've only had very short stays with either one of those groups. My social groups have never been drunks or stoners. It's a choice.
    Well for me it's all about moderation. I like a beer, and I like a splif. I have one body I have to take care of it, so I modify my intake of any substance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Therapy View Post
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    Say what you will about marijuana, I'd rather hang out with stoners anyday over drunks. Luckily I've only had very short stays with either one of those groups. My social groups have never been drunks or stoners. It's a choice.
    Well for me it's all about moderation. I like a beer, and I like a splif. I have one body I have to take care of it, so I modify my intake of any substance.
    I've already stated that very same thing in an other thread. It's not some esoteric philosophy -- moderation is just common sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDemon View Post
    If I was being cynical I would think this thread is an attempt to justify past bad behavior and set up a new round of chain yanking. I would be glad to be proved wrong but let's wait and see...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PumaMan View Post
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    Say what you will about marijuana, I'd rather hang out with stoners anyday over drunks. Luckily I've only had very short stays with either one of those groups. My social groups have never been drunks or stoners. It's a choice.
    Well for me it's all about moderation. I like a beer, and I like a splif. I have one body I have to take care of it, so I modify my intake of any substance.
    I've already stated that very same thing in an other thread. It's not some esoteric philosophy -- moderation is just common sense.
    Pretty much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhDemon View Post
    I read boneheads post by accident before logging in, foolish of me I know but it's interesting to see he still hasn't figured out what ignore list means.
    Your list or mine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverfly View Post
    Suggesting reading, or chewing gum is absurd. I think you two are lucky that you are so naive about this. Don't get me wrong. You're lucky... But you're also in error.
    Firstly, I had to overcome an addiction so I know all about how hard it is.

    Secondly, I was being a bit cheeky and not particularly serious about it given the poster.

    I will just say that ANYTHING can be habit-forming even if not addictive on its own. We can become addicted to the way certain things make us feel separate completely from the chemicals contained within those things. Addiction is a broad and powerful thing. It may not be the same as chemical dependency, but it is still no joke.

    Sorry if I offended with my comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flick Montana View Post
    Firstly, I had to overcome an addiction so I know all about how hard it is.

    Secondly, I was being a bit cheeky and not particularly serious about it given the poster.

    I will just say that ANYTHING can be habit-forming even if not addictive on its own. We can become addicted to the way certain things make us feel separate completely from the chemicals contained within those things. Addiction is a broad and powerful thing. It may not be the same as chemical dependency, but it is still no joke.

    Sorry if I offended with my comment.
    I was not offended. I was being educational.
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    With this new and irrefutable evidence, I am now strongly against the legalization of marijuana.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shlunka View Post
    With this new and irrefutable evidence, I am now strongly against the legalization of marijuana.
    There are better solutions than continuing to pay the bad guys billions of dollars every year for illegal marijuana.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theorist View Post
    smoking dope from the age of 15 until now, the age of 39 , 40 this year. 25 years of toking away,
    Something to be proud of, I'm sure. Personally I couldn't give two shits about any drug, including alcohol. I've tried them all, thought I was hooked until one day, call it an epiphany if you want, I just decided that my life was more important than ingesting toxins into my body. I only have one life and I intend to live it sober, I refuse to get artificially high again. Call it what you want but for me a natural high far surpasses the euphoric effect of any drug. People ask me what is a natural high and I all I can say is that its the feeling you get when you appreciate the nature of our reality(that would include science). I would rather paddle a canoe 10 kilometres and observe the world than spark one up, it's way more gratifying and satisfying.

    A oncologist once told me that living healthy is cheap and she was right. A 25 year investment in what amounts to the ashes of a fucking plant is more time than it takes to pay off a mortgage. All you've managed to do is support crime and get messed. People actual kill other people over this shit and you are a reason they do it. If you like getting high then go right ahead but stay the fuck out of my way and stay off the road.
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    While driving stoned is not safe, and I don't condone it, I wish people would get as outraged about drunk driving deaths.

    According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) 32,885 people died in traffic crashes in 2010 in the United States (latest figures available), including an estimated 10,228 people who died in drunk driving crashes, accounting for 31% of all traffic deaths last year.
    Since NHTSA began recording alcohol-related statistics in 1982, drunk driving fatalities have decreased 52% from 21,113 in 1982. Since the inception of The Century Council and our national efforts to fight drunk driving, drunk driving fatalities have declined 35% from 15,827 in 1991. (Source: NHTSA/FARS, 2011)
    10.228 people dead in one year in the US. I just hope among those stats are the dipshits that were drunk, but it seems that they usually survive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PumaMan View Post
    While driving stoned is not safe, and I don't condone it, I wish people would get as outraged about drunk driving deaths.

    According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) 32,885 people died in traffic crashes in 2010 in the United States (latest figures available), including an estimated 10,228 people who died in drunk driving crashes, accounting for 31% of all traffic deaths last year.
    Since NHTSA began recording alcohol-related statistics in 1982, drunk driving fatalities have decreased 52% from 21,113 in 1982. Since the inception of The Century Council and our national efforts to fight drunk driving, drunk driving fatalities have declined 35% from 15,827 in 1991. (Source: NHTSA/FARS, 2011)
    10.228 people dead in one year in the US. I just hope among those stats are the dipshits that were drunk, but it seems that they usually survive.
    In Washington state they post signs that say, "Don't drug and drive" I do believe alcohol is included in that statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PumaMan View Post
    While driving stoned is not safe, and I don't condone it, I wish people would get as outraged about drunk driving deaths.

    According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) 32,885 people died in traffic crashes in 2010 in the United States (latest figures available), including an estimated 10,228 people who died in drunk driving crashes, accounting for 31% of all traffic deaths last year.
    Since NHTSA began recording alcohol-related statistics in 1982, drunk driving fatalities have decreased 52% from 21,113 in 1982. Since the inception of The Century Council and our national efforts to fight drunk driving, drunk driving fatalities have declined 35% from 15,827 in 1991. (Source: NHTSA/FARS, 2011)
    10.228 people dead in one year in the US. I just hope among those stats are the dipshits that were drunk, but it seems that they usually survive.
    You're just scratching the surface. Don't think that drunks only get killed or are killed just by driving vehicles. Drunks fall off balconies, drink themselves to death, choke on their own vomit, drown with their head in a toilet and die in just about a million other ways a sober person wouldn't.
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    Are you sure those are effects of long term marijuana usage and not simply posting while high on marijuana? I would only trust such symptoms to be effects of long term marijuana usage if you had those effects after not using marijuana for an extended period (i.e. a year). Have you tried this? Or are the symptoms you describe are in fact while still using marijuana regularly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos View Post
    You're just scratching the surface. Don't think that drunks only get killed or are killed just by driving vehicles. Drunks fall off balconies, drink themselves to death, choke on their own vomit, drown with their head in a toilet and die in just about a million other ways a sober person wouldn't.
    And they're disgusting to be around even when they aren't out killing others. Stupid, staggering, stuttering, lying, aggressive, belching, puking, farting, pissing themselves, shitting themselves.
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    Is anyone else seeing the irony in the title containing an incorrectly spelled "Psychology"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shlunka View Post
    Is anyone else seeing the irony in the title containing an incorrectly spelled "Psychology"?
    Not really, he's not a good speller and he doesn't respect the rest of us enough to use a spell checker. Doesn't really have much to do with his so called marijuana addiction. Except why should he respect us if he doesn't respect himself first. Just a thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pyoko View Post
    Are you sure those are effects of long term marijuana usage and not simply posting while high on marijuana? I would only trust such symptoms to be effects of long term marijuana usage if you had those effects after not using marijuana for an extended period (i.e. a year). Have you tried this? Or are the symptoms you describe are in fact while still using marijuana regularly?
    The sypmtoms vary, I have tried to quit several times, one time, I lasted 5 days, on the 5th day I collapsed, I thought I was dying. I had a 'spliff' again and was 'fine'.

    Fine only in a sense that it made me feel better than I felt.

    I do not drink alcohol in any form, I agree alcohol is a bigger danger.


    Some one mentioned about reality, yes marijuana has made me have an alternative reality, it has become my life.

    Respect, you would never understand how much respect I do have for people and forum members.

    Spell checker, I have one, but for some reason,it does not work on here.


    shulka- ''With this new and irrefutable evidence, I am now strongly against the legalization of marijuana.'' Yes, I understand my body and I understand the long term true effects.

    I would make comparisons to CFS,MS, Parkinsons, e.t.c.
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    Several 'spliffs' already today, my body feels like it has no energy, my mind is in overdrive. My thoughts questioning my thoughts, even now as I post my mind is running wild.
    My mind wants stimulation, my body wants to do nothing.


    My mind wants to be energetic, my body does not. It feels like I have no 'grip' with my hands.


    My head feels warm inside,

    I paused for a second in thought, my mind went blank.

    NO, another pause, I have lost what to say.

    I will report back later as the day continues, you may find it interesting.
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    You live in the UK, right? Don't you people in the civilized world have access to government healthcare?
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    This great stuff, confessions of a stoner, 50 shades of green! Keep the reports up bud!!
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