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    well, on tuesday i noticed an interesting behaviour during maths class, it seemed that if anyone saw me look at the clock, they too wolud look at the clock.

    at first i thought they just wanted to know what i was looking at, but as i became more intrueged by this, i looked at my watch instead, this also cued people to look at the clock, or their own watch.

    even after i filled in a fw people on what i noticed, i still tested them, and found that although they tried not to give into the behaviour, as soon as i looked at the clock, they were almost sweating with the prossure to look at their watches.

    so my question is, what is it that makes us do this?, why must we know what others know, is it an evolutionary thing?, do people become envious of our knowledge and seek equal knowledge?, do we have some sort of subconcsious desire to know the time?


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    Ahhh.
    Now this is interesting.
    I don't have links to any professional studies or anything, but I'd be rather disappointed if there aren't some out there. I'll do some scavenging tomorrow if no one else has the answers yet tomorrow.

    Anyway, there is a more interesting... and fun... behavior that this brings to mind. Instead of looking at the clock yourself, wait until you see someone look at their watch. Hee hee. And then... ask them what time it is. And observe the amazing fact that they.... look at their watch again.

    I had this fact pointed out to me years ago and have since forgotten. So, I thank you for this thread as a reminder. Human psychology is a twisted and wonderful thing.

    (And, for some reason, I have this feeling that there is something else attached to this memory that isn't surfacing yet. It's late and I just woke up in my insomniacal manner... Maybe it'll come to me after some thought.)


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    cool . i notice that ..

    we all crave knowlage. i loked at this post.... just because i though i was missing out on something!!!! ( i now know im not :wink: )

    i alway's say "what?" when someone ask's a question... but before they repaeat the question... i answer.!!!
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    There is something happenening. There is something happening... NOW. When is it going to end? I wonder. Hey the clock tells me....

    That stuff is just below the surface, just waiting to poke through.

    Then you see someone look.

    It pokes through, and you look too.. out of a need to cull that "anxiety" so to speak regarding the status of the current event. You're more inclined to do so because you're all sharing the same event.

    Regarding the watch thing.

    Interesting point, I've noticed that but never really talked about it or thought about it explicitely.

    It must have to do with how the information is being filed and queues/buffers.

    You look to satisfy your own purpose.. it gets filed in your whole "what am I up to" conceptual on-the-fly doodad. Thus, the information isn't noticed in the slot it's currently in.

    When someone asks you, it's a new request. It's a request that isn't for you and doesn't involve your "what am I up to" doodad. As such, you follow through with the routine that you always follow when somone asks you what time it is.

    There are of course exceptions. I've noticed that too. It depends on why I looked at the clock in the first place as to whether or not I'll notice I just looked if someone asks me directly.

    Part of that watch thing is likely socialization too... that's why the habit you have is as it is... because when people ask, they expect you to look. When you're asked, you expect to look... so unless you're consciously trying not to look, or for whatever reason are thinking directly about "what time is it" rather than "what am I doing?", you'll look.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vslayer
    so my question is, what is it that makes us do this?, why must we know what others know, is it an evolutionary thing?, do people become envious of our knowledge and seek equal knowledge?, do we have some sort of subconcsious desire to know the time?
    It's a kind of "social infection". Herd behaviour if you will.

    Tribal animals pay attention to fellows (and others). This is beneficient and esp. makes sense in nature. One knows one cannot oversee the whole situation oneself for possible danger or advantage, so one relies on one's fellows.

    In our abstract enivronment, many actions are performed that seemingly make no sense -- like looking up the time all the time when there is no rational need to do that, or no actual motivation.
    (Like if you were all nervous, expecting a difficult exam that will take place in a short while.)
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    MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.


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    The watch:

    If both people are waiting for something, e.g. for the bus to arrive, I bet the person does not look at the watch again, because the question has the same context as the initial act.
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    I think everyone is just very anxious to leave class. When you look at the clock you relieve some of this anxiety because you now know how much time is left. The rest of the class shares your anxiety and also wants to determine how much longer until their freedom. It seems that you looking at the clock opens the door to allowing them to look.
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    I think it has more to do with curiosity. If I were to walk down a busy city block looking up, many others would look up as well.

    It is true that most people after looking at their watch will look at it again before giving the time. The reason I think they do that is because they aren't conciously thinking of the time, but how much time they have left until something.
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    nice observations I guess looking at the clock is one of those thing you do when you dont know what to do else. For example, when I'm bored I look at my watch every 5 minutes, or I start staring at a paper which I've allready read. Just to avoid doing nothing at all. (other people would check their voicemail over and over again, or clean their glasses or so). Maybe there's some evolution in it: If someone is completely inactive for a while, he/she would seem to lack energy. Which is not a good sign.
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    Plus, let's not forget the aesthetic appeal:

    I have a gorgeous Adidas sport watch. I love to look at it.
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    I wonder if the same experiment would work for womens breasts? I'll try this the next time I'm in a classroom. Then again that might mean I've got a ticket and forced to take one of those stupid driving classes
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    Quote Originally Posted by goodgod3rd
    cool . i notice that ..

    we all crave knowlage. i loked at this post.... just because i though i was missing out on something!!!! ( i now know im not :wink: )

    i alway's say "what?" when someone ask's a question... but before they repaeat the question... i answer.!!!
    My daughter and son both do that with what?? after a question, and I used to do it too... until i was about 18 and got a job as a construction laborer. My boss was a trip.. an old anti-social mountainman/hippy/super-intellectual. He was incredibly hard to work for especially since he had such a low opinion of young people. after a few times of what?? then answering the question, he actually laughed for the first time since i knew him, then back to the usual completely serious. He told me the reason people do that is because they are accustomed to tuning the world out because theyre insecure and noncommital. Its such a natural response for kids who say what? to their parents and adults expressing their wish to not have to take part in the conversation or what may come of it. Then it becomes a habit, where you notice it the moment after you say it and respond as you should have. shrugs







    Quote Originally Posted by Pendragon
    nice observations I guess looking at the clock is one of those thing you do when you dont know what to do else. For example, when I'm bored I look at my watch every 5 minutes, or I start staring at a paper which I've allready read. Just to avoid doing nothing at all. (other people would check their voicemail over and over again, or clean their glasses or so). Maybe there's some evolution in it: If someone is completely inactive for a while, he/she would seem to lack energy. Which is not a good sign.
    Ive been practicing zazen long enuf where whenever i get a little free time where im stuck, i close my eyes and practice. i think the kind of posture you keep is significant. You dont want to appear to be nodding off ... so ill sit with my back straight and chin on my chest.. obvious not sleeping. I do think its kind of strange maybe that in all the years ive done this wherever, no one has once stopped me after it was time to go and asked me what i was up to. Do you think people know?
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    what do zazen exercises look like? :wink:
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    Time is the most easily obtainable, and often, the most significant piece of knowledge.
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    Human behavior is unique. When one looks up in the heavens on a busy street, many would do the same, they are inquiring on their own minds "what the hell is he looking at?" They some times even ask the perpertrator of the experiment.
    If you look at your watch and 1 second latter someone asks you the time, you look at your watch again, only to reafirm the party that you have given him the right time, if you were not to look at it, the party may be inclined to judge wether you gave him the right answer or not.

    But if you really want to play a trick and observe just how many people would try and pick up a coin that is glued to the floor.

    You can video the scene, try this in a mall.
    Many passer by won't even see the coin.
    Those that do, spend a little time to pick it up.
    Some get obssesed by trying to pick it up.
    Children seemed to try the hardest.
    If you are caught with the video camera, they instantly know you are playing a trick.

    What makes people try to pick up the coin?. Even after they tried and know it's glued?.
    Children don't know it's glued, they figure it's just stuck a little. They actually want the coin more.
    Out of 100 passer bys at least 70 percent try and pick up the coin.
    If you use a .50 cent coin you get better returns.

    Is it greed?
    Found money is the sweetest.
    Children hardly ever get money, this may be why they try the hardest.

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