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  1. #1 What's love? 
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    What is love? Everybody knows the feeling of love, but what causes this feeling? And do animals also have this feeling or should we consider it as something typically human?


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    Love is not typically human.
    There is different kind of love. The one who made you mad, is related to neuromediators. It induce a state of ectasy and dependance. It tend to vanish after two years.
    the 'tender" love is based more on sentiments than mediator.
    There is also the maternal love, wich is very important in a lot of species. I don't know if prolactine, have something to do with that, but the instinct play a very important role here


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    Then why is it that most humans stay with the same partner which they really love, while animals don't?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artemis
    Then why is it that most humans stay with the same partner which they really love, while animals don't?
    Are you really sure of this one ? (I just hear of a study, who said that fidelity was not that huge ...)

    The real answer has to deal with paternity. In order to have a family and childs you have to stay with the same woman. Of course in modern life there is many complex family with childs coming from differents marriages.
    From the point of vue of the wife (and especially when the woman do not worked outside) it's very important to keep the same husband in order to have a future.
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    So actually the reason (some :wink: ) humans stay together is because of the kind of life we have. Having work, education, money, and al kinds of morals take away the freedom which animals still have?

    That does explain a lot, tough not the real feeling of love. There still are Humans who don't want anybody else but there lover. Is love just the feeling that makes sure that we humans wont extinguish?

    Animals do not seem to have the "I love you, you are mine" spirit. If a man has sex with another woman, his wife will be very mad. Animals don't seem to have this problem. They do not posses each other as we humans do
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    There was this cool story on Animal Planet about badgers.

    These two badgers were roaming the land for a mate, and one of the badgers got to the girl mate before the other. Well the other badger comes along and tries to score some action but the badger who got their first wouldn't let the poor badger anywhere NEAR their hole. The two badgers started hissing and making moves towards eachother, but finaly the poor badger gave up and left. You could tell he was seriously considering fighting to the death for the girl badger.
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  8. #7 Remember the birds! 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artemis
    Then why is it that most humans stay with the same partner which they really love, while animals don't?
    However, there are some bird species that form stable breeding pair bonds, quite admirable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey_matter5
    Quote Originally Posted by Artemis
    Then why is it that most humans stay with the same partner which they really love, while animals don't?
    However, there are some bird species that form stable breeding pair bonds, quite admirable.

    Mute swans being one of them
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    Quote Originally Posted by captaincaveman
    Quote Originally Posted by Grey_matter5
    Quote Originally Posted by Artemis
    Then why is it that most humans stay with the same partner which they really love, while animals don't?
    However, there are some bird species that form stable breeding pair bonds, quite admirable.

    Mute swans being one of them
    shame there isn't a thing such as mute women
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  11. #10 Re: What's love? 
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    What is love? Everybody knows the feeling of love, but what causes this feeling? And do animals also have this feeling or should we consider it as something typically human?
    You are begging for a long winded reply. Rather than the philosophy of it, I shall give links to the science and psychology of it! Unfortunately most websites are either porn, sex, dating websites, stupidity, people that don't know what their talking about, etc. So the list will have to be small. I also didn't read through all of them, so some might still be BS.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love
    http://www.healthy-happy-love-relati...auses-love.htm
    http://www.love-detector.com/aboutlove.html
    http://www.psychologytoday.com/artic...01-000021.html


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    Animals do not seem to have the "I love you, you are mine" spirit. If a man has sex with another woman, his wife will be very mad. Animals don't seem to have this problem. They do not posses each other as we humans do
    That is jealousy. It's not present in some animals since it's not part of their brain functions. However, with pets and humans, it can be OVERWHELMINGLY present. I think the difference is that animals don't view the sex as a love action, rather they view it as what it really is, an action of reproduction. WE, on the other hand, do view it as an act of love more often than not (there are exceptions).

    psychology of jealousy:

    http://www.psychologytoday.com/search/search.cgi?q=relationships+%26+(self-esteem%20|%20self-view%20|%20self-love%20|%20confidence)
    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...sy&btnG=Search

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    Perhaps it is part of a larger emotion which can exist in any one of three states.

    Love.
    Indifference.
    Hate.

    So it might be easier to define it as the absence of the latter two.
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    Love is a trick of DNA to get us to reproduce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkinWalker
    Love is a trick of DNA to get us to reproduce.
    Hmmm... Not sure how that fit's with 'I love donuts!' :wink:
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkinWalker
    Love is a trick of DNA to get us to reproduce.
    Explain celebecy for life between two people in love.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artemis
    Then why is it that most humans stay with the same partner which they really love, while animals don't?
    I believe that Mallard, Paradise and Grey Ducks mate for life i.e. same partner, very sad in the Duck shooting season
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  17. #16 I think love can be viewed as a direct experience of... 
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    ...what we also call physical laws. After all, the laws of evolution, and all animal behaviour, are simply dictated by physics. We are compelled to mate and co-operate by physical processes created by our genes (or else our genes would not have been selected) so in this sense, love can be described as a direct experience of the laws of physics....At least that's a thought I like to have...Something appealling in dreaming of moon's loving attraction to the earth!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artemis
    Then why is it that most humans stay with the same partner which they really love, while animals don't?
    The answer to that (in my case) is cost. It's easier and cheaper for me to keep the wife and kids together as a family, than it would be to leave them for either of my extra-marital partners.
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    sometimes i think love is a tempory stateof illusion and sometimes i think love itself is lifes main purpose....i really cannot decide. i think about it a lot. what makes us love - what is love - how do we know the "love" we are feeling at that time is not in fact infatuation?? the questions are endless. what would be a good definition of love? u know what? i tink love is a quantum pysical process - one that attracts certain peoples subparticles togetehr for an unknown reason. we feel a "bond" with this person and as a physical result experience feelings of kindness, compassion, desire etc towards known subject. yes like newtons one law stating that every object in the universe is attracted to another. some - exceptionally few - are attracted in a much more intense way - simply because the subparticles' (of two given subjects) structure and position deem it so. hmmmmm....is it not also funny that you can hate someone only after you have loved them? love is certainly strange
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    I've developed some kind of perceptional problem where I cannot differentiate love and addiction. So that is my answer I suppose. Love is addiction, except with people.
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    "love is addiction". mmm, thats interesting. i see how the two can get crossed. almost like obssession....love is addiction in things and obsession in people...although i dont quite agree i think one can get confused between the two which may become a problem....
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    About the thing saying some animals are loyal to 1 partner for life.... But one must consider that they hav pretty short life-span of a few years at most....
    Let's see them living with the same partner for 30-40+ years they will also go mad...
    And btw, love is a chemical signal ur brain produce when u see a certain person, or object (whatever makes u happy ). It can last for as short as seconds or god knows how long.....
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    yes but why is that chemical signal produced when we see a specific person???
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    "What is love? Baby don't hurt me! Don't hurt me, no more!" *bangs head*
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    oh goodness! now iv got that song stuck in my head! see what uv done!!! :wink: wonder y love can bring about so many negative feelings along with it?? hmmmm
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    Love is a curse in disguise..... it's the thing that all ur so called Gods gave u... but it's a curse, u hear me?? CURSE??!! muahahahhaa
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    i understand how one can think its a curse and maybe it is a curse at times - but most of all real love is rare and awfully hard to come across but when u do its the gretest gift to mankind.
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    SkinWalker wrote:
    Love is a trick of DNA to get us to reproduce.

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    Hmmm... Not sure how that fit's with 'I love donuts!'

    This causes bakers to reproduce many donuts. :wink:
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    Love: Mostly physical reactions, mostly learning conduct...but I love to be in love... Isn't that great!!!!?
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    this makes me wonder why we love or are attracted to the people we love/are attracted to?? because usually we are attracted to the same "kind" of man or woman. any suggestions as to why? what makes subject x attracted to women with strange laughs, what makes subject y attracted to men in tight shorts? what makes subject b love man with particular character traights, whats makes subject c love emotionally abusive women? etc
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    love is an emotion designed to force the organism to mate with another one from the species so his/hers genes is passed on to the next generation
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    Also, it makes them devoted to raise their kids sometimes etc. etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeavingQuietly
    Also, it makes them devoted to raise their kids sometimes etc. etc.
    once again just to pass on their genes
    healthy kids makse it easier for them to pass on your genes
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    But it is not really a good idea. After all, it is impossible to win, is it not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeavingQuietly
    But it is not really a good idea. After all, it is impossible to win, is it not?
    why is it impossible to win what?
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