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Thread: How to avoid be underwent to a surgery by a psychopath physician?

  1. #1 How to avoid be underwent to a surgery by a psychopath physician? 
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    Prominent psychiatrist, sexopath and murderer, used patients as sexual objects The PsychCrime Database - PsychCrime.org
    Harold Shipman killed by poison 218 patients Harold Shipman - Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre
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    How the psychological test couldn't filtered these sociopaths? How much killer/sexopath physicians could remain undetected in US; in this moment?
    There must be surveillance cameras during every hospitalization period?


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    Most nurses and physicians are NOT required to submit to psychological exams unless they are working directly for the police or military.


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    Medical education and to a lesser degree nursing education are very intellectually taxing. Persons with serious mental illness, ie psychosis, generally can't manage to get through the schooling. However mental illness can develope after one has gotten the education and passed the regulatory tests. Professional organizations and state boards of medicine and nursing keep a close watch on the members of these professions.
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    For Sealeaf.. That's very re-assuring. Where are the sharp knives kept? westwind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bezoar View Post
    Prominent psychiatrist, sexopath and murderer, used patients as sexual objects The PsychCrime Database - PsychCrime.org
    Harold Shipman killed by poison 218 patients Harold Shipman - Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre
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    How the psychological test couldn't filtered these sociopaths? How much killer/sexopath physicians could remain undetected in US; in this moment?
    There must be surveillance cameras during every hospitalization period?
    You really do have a fascination with labeling everyone around you as psychopaths. Why?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleoichneum View Post
    You really do ahve a facination with labeling everyone around you as psychopaths. Why?
    I think we have had this conversation with him/her before regarding the proper definition between psych and sociopath. It was a waste of time and energy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sealeaf View Post
    Medical education and to a lesser degree nursing education are very intellectually taxing. Persons with serious mental illness, ie psychosis, generally can't manage to get through the schooling. However mental illness can develope after one has gotten the education and passed the regulatory tests. Professional organizations and state boards of medicine and nursing keep a close watch on the members of these professions.
    This forum disappoint me completely. You dont recognize 'sadism' cant be reliably tested, how a dr. Shipman, a dr. Jane Toppan, and others megateriums of sadism passed completely undetected?.

    Are you saying, ok, the medical system do their best, if your girlfriend or your mother has the bad luck to fall in hands of a psycho dr., well there is nothing we can do.
    We can install cameras!
    I though this thread was about cameras!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleoichneum View Post
    How much killer/sexopath physicians could remain undetected in US; in this moment?
    There must be surveillance cameras during every hospitalization period?
    You really do have a fascination with labeling everyone around you as psychopaths. Why?[/QUOTE]
    You are pissing me off, dammit!, i m thinkin you have no problem to go to a theather to be riddled.
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    Im not the one with the sociological problems. you are the one who, in every thread you start, accuse someone of being a psychopath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bezoar View Post
    This forum disappoint me completely. You dont recognize 'sadism' cant be reliably tested, how a dr. Shipman, a dr. Jane Toppan, and others megateriums of sadism passed completely undetected?.
    Complete detection is a hell of a lot more difficult standard than "reliable." If programs screen out 99.9% of the crazies, they'd be considered quite reliable by just about every reasonable standards--but of course that would still let hundreds of medical professionals through the cracks in any given year, and thus not completely comparable of getting everyone. Such is life.
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    "We can install cameras!
    I though this thread was about cameras!"

    Harold Shipman was a GP (general practitioner, aka family doctor), many of his killings were in the patients' own home (when he was doing a home visit). You want to install cameras in people's bedrooms? I assume not.
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    Around 2% of the general population are psychopaths. That probably means that 2% of doctors are psychopaths. Most psychopaths, though, do not do anything too bad, because the harm would rebound on them. Doctors being smart would realise this. For this reason, the odds against a doctor someone visits being a psychopath who will harm them are very high. Not worth losing sleep over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bezoar View Post
    I though this thread was about cameras!
    I thought it was yet another thread about your paranoia and misanthropy.

    do something f*** witchy
    What does that even mean?
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    Fantastical....?
    others may speculate (as long as it's clean)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleoichneum View Post
    Im not the one with the sociological problems. you are the one who, in every thread you start, accuse someone of being a psychopath.
    You talking to me? You talking to me?...

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    A fanatic o' Taxi Driver tried to kill president Nixon, and you have no sociological problems? finally Nixon blowed out his cancerogenic nose, feeded with fast food.
    ha ha ha do something witchy!!

    Mention all my posts where i label someone as psiko? ha ha ha, you cant remember more than 2. Is that topic forbidden here? ha ha ha
    Tell me... why bothers you my original idea of a psycho harasser? bullier?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
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    I though this thread was about cameras!
    I thought it was yet another thread about your paranoia and misanthropy
    Thank you for define me as the normalst person. You are not proposing any practical ideas to eradicate Colorado Shootings, Columbines (ultimately happened one in Finland), Fred Wests, Jane Toppans

    There is nothing science can do to eradicate Colorado Shootings once and for all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bezoar View Post
    There is nothing science can do to eradicate Colorado Shootings once and for all?
    Prevent completely? No. There are things that can be done to make them less likely, to try and make them less disastrous when the happen, to get help to people quicker, etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by skeptic View Post
    For this reason, the odds against a doctor someone visits being a psychopath who will harm them are very high. Not worth losing sleep over.
    oh yeah, yeh yeh (moaning) wo wo worth losing lots o' sleep over... Kramer (Seinfeld).

    Some narcisistic doctors have an irresisible desire to be part of the 'exclusive' Hall of Fame of Insanity.




    Also if medical corruption runs slightly. Runs with sneaks.
    Unless you would be pleased to explain how hospital's darkest secrecy can be easily uncover, dismantled. It depends of their level o' sophistication. Can u theorize a bit on beateability/unbeateablility o' plottings, please?
    The more sophisticated are forensic detectives, that same knowledge can be used by conspirators.
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    But you, scientists! you can invent now the formula to eradicate all evil...once & for all.

    please lose a bit of sleep
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    To answer your question, I don't believe there is anything that can be done. If there is a camera, the doctor would simply do their deeds elsewhere. Another tack might be, can we detect this problem early on and stop it early? That seems more promising. Otherwise, as already mentioned, most people who develop psychopathy are not going to make it as doctors at all (though they may fake their credentials to get employment). Of those that do, the majority will not sh!t where they eat, if you'll pardon the phrase. That only leaves an astoundingly small number of people who would likely do intentional harm. The rest will just do unintentional harm! :P There is far more chance of you getting killed in a car accident than getting killed (or sexed) by a psychopath. Obviously it DOES happen, otherwise we wouldn't be having this conversation. But people also get struck by lightening, and that's not something I worry about too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
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    There is nothing science can do to eradicate Colorado Shootings once and for all?
    Prevent completely? No. There are things that can be done to make them less likely, to try and make them less disastrous when the happen, to get help to people quicker, etc...
    When i was young i never heard on shootings, and nasties like that... i was optimist, had hope science will raise an age o' peacefulness.
    I was wrong, had nasty kafkian misfortunes (cant tell you to avoid you dream nightmares), and gradually sank into the pit o' paranoia & misanthropy.
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    I'm sorry to hear that, bezoar. I still have hope that science actually will improve things, if we let it. But I was never an optimist, so I had nothing to lose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshuaL View Post
    and that's not something I worry about too much.
    Not until it happens to you or loved ones. That is not soothing. Scientifically talking.

    Nothing we can do + nothing we can do + nothing we can do + nothing we can do ad infinitum = oh, it starts to like me...
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    I believe that we WILL reach a point, via science, where we can address problems like psychopathy. It will happen! But we are a long way off. If you are asking for what we can do RIGHT NOW, I think the answer is nothing. I don't like that answer, either. You know, you mentioned cameras, which I discounted, but maybe I shouldn't have. Obviously a killer/rapist will not perpetrate their crimes if they know they are being recorded, so at the very least it prevent the events from occurring in the hospital (this would apply to the angel of death type killer, perhaps), but obviously this is no cure for psychopathy. The psychopath still exists. My hope is that as we delve deeper into the science of the brain and nervous system, we will eventually reach a point where the idea of "curing" psychopathy begins to look feasible.
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    If I were to personify this thread, I might call it a psychopath.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bezoar View Post
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    I thought it was yet another thread about your paranoia and misanthropy
    Thank you for define me as the normalst person.
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