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    When treating a person with psychiatric meds. is it true a consumer can have medicinally induced psychosis and depression? If that be true, what are alternate treatments?


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    Some psychoactive drugs can have serious side effects. And there are lots of alternative treatments.

    Anyone with a psychiatric condition that responds badly to one or more medications has to have a good doctor who can calibrate dosages of the most suitable drug or come up with a combination of medications that will work reasonably well. Unfortunately, the biggest issue for some people is that this all takes a lot of time. And if their condition is severe, that can interfere with them sticking to the required doses and timings for the medication - which detracts from its efficacy.


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    Okay! I agree that treatment can and is problematic. However the question is a question of validation of findings. Please understand I am not posing a question of ethics nor morals. If as a MD I prescribe a drug to treat a patient with a severe diagnostic problem and I prescribe a drug that can and does effect a person in much the same way as say a synthetic street drug thereby causing that person to become even more agitated, then is it useful to continue with that prescribed measure of treatment? It is true that psychiatric drugs can be and are addictive. That fact cannot be disputed. So, that being the case, how is it that such treatment methods are seemingly not being expanded upon? Even more, not being challenged as a method to be reconsidered, redesigned, and discarded as problematic and fundamentally counter productive? I think, as a non scientist but hopefully a reasoned thinker, that there must be other meaningful and less problematic methods of treatment.
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    Psychiatrists are in much the same position as oncologists. For the time being, many of the main treatment protocols have high risks of severe impacts on their patients' well-being and even their lives.

    They have to work with what they've got. And you must remember that most psychoactive drugs work pretty well for most people most of the time. None of them is perfect, some of the most seriously affected patients have some of the most difficult prescribing problems.

    All drugs are problematic. I'm allergic to all but a few (very few) antibiotics. I also developed an allergy to the one and only pain medication that ever did me any good. Many people are in the same boat with lots of medications. The other issue of course for psychiatric patients is the common one for many conditions. Having one illness or propensity to illness does not preclude having other conditions at the same time. So if a patient has schizophrenia and depression and anxiety, you can bet your boots that treating any one of them could have knock on effects on the others. It might look like a side effect, but in some cases it's actually another condition coming to the fore when the more serious condition abates and allows the other to exhibit more directly.

    As for the addiction. People get tied up in knots about addictions. Frankly, I'm quite happy to risk becoming reliant on a drug that relieves pain (or depression or hallucinations). If I'm still addicted when I die from something else, fine. And psychiatrists have to walk this line every day. If I have severely depressed or paranoid patients and the only effective drugs available have high risk of addiction I have to weigh that against the risk of patients harming themselves or others. Me? I'd give the drug and deal with the addiction later if it arises.

    And there's a lot of work being done in this area, because some conditions are so resistant to treatment. If you can keep a patient alive, there's a chance that in 5 or 10 years time a more effective treatment will be available.
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    The treatment is fact; it works. However, as Adelady said, it can be very hard to get it just right. We simply do not know enough about the brain at this time to be perfect about things.

    Our entire being, including thoughts and emotions, are just chemicals in our brain, and chemical reactions can rectify chemical imbalances in the brain.
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