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  1. #1 No Sense Complaining About Immigration 
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    Yeah, I know, more immigration talk. Maybe it's behavioral on my part but what the heck? It's just that I know someone very close and she's always mentioning the fact that her parents immigrated to this country. There are several reasons why people immigrate. One is a financially secured future. Doesn't matter if they reach it, just knowing the potential is there should be enough of an incentive. Along with potential a need for immigrant services must also exist.

    Currently in Canada there appears to be a labor population shortage in Newfoundland province. There really isn't as there are enough unemployed able bodied persons around to do the job as a fish processor working in a fish packing plant. Not being able to fill the ranks locally, the company went looking elsewhere and believe it or not have brought in people willing to do the work from Thailand of all places.

    It appears the citizens of a country that's attractive to immigrants are inadvertently or unexpectedly mailing out invitations to foreigners simply by their own inactivity or willingness to work. Somewhere along the way a line is drawn that indicates to what extent people of a nation are willing to do the things that for all intents would minimize immigration to their country. The euphoria of success is diminished by the misery of entitlement.

    Call it work ethic, pride, self esteem, just plain laziness or possibly too much of a reliance on the government to sustain them but in the end the native population provides the impetus for immigration. In order for immigration to occur the citizens of the attractive country must believe that they no longer are of what they consider a low working class. I guess you could draw parallels to slavery (forced immigration) in some respects. People in these countries really don't have a leg to stand on when they complain about too many foreigners.


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    i am the child of children of children of immigrants
    the first of my ancestors got here in 1730-40, and the most recent in the 1880s
    before that, some of them seemed to immigrate from place to place almost randomly

    we are a nation of such people who wander far from home
    god bless us all


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    Well I'm an ultimately an immigrant from Africa, though it has been many millenia since my forefathers arrived and even more since they departed. Consequently I am all in favour of immigration.
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    In the near future when all of the advanced countries are faced with a high percentage of aging population with a reduction in the work age group, imigration will be needed and welcomed to keep their economy working efficiently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt View Post
    Well I'm an ultimately an immigrant from Africa, though it has been many millenia since my forefathers arrived and even more since they departed. Consequently I am all in favour of immigration.
    You may be wrong about Africa.

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    No, it was definitely Africa, because I recall great-great grandfather boasting of how he swam the Mediterranean with great-great grandma on his back.
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    But what do Fish processors do in the winter when everything is frozen, isnt there some sort of seasonal fluctuation to consider?

    Is there a shortage of workers, or seasonal fluctuations in the work load or a shortage of cheap labor?


    The qualifier for refusing to work for a certain amount depends on the scale of income, like pirates and emperors, if you wont work for less than poverty wage an hour, or wont do you 16 hour work day for less than 1 hot meal a day (cup of boiling water) then you are said to be LAZY.
    If you're a Prema Donna that wont work unless she/he gets his 5 million cachet with valet to walk the poodle and perks, then your not lazy, of course not, now you're savvy, to be admired, theres no shortage of Prema Donna's then and now the magical invisible hand of the market comes into play, now it applies, your just not offering enough, 4 millions just wont cut it, etc
    But when its the poor chump, then that magical market is not longer crossing the rainbow by riding a free market unicorn, oh no, now its laziness, contemptible lack of work ethic, an apocalyptic shortage of (cheap) labor, etc
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    I don't know why an American would complain about immegration anyway- all Americans(apart from Natives) are immigrants... And for the most part foreign people do jobs that most people turn their noses up at anyway! As long as they don't all go on welfare it's fine.
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