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Thread: Assholes and Music

  1. #1 Assholes and Music 
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    Assholes can pop up anywhere, next door, at work, on the highway, at the park, etc. Always irritating, totally inconsiderate selfish morons whose sole purpose in life is to be a disruptive, annoying and obnoxious jerk, except they don't realize it or do they?. How is it that some people are just assholes?

    Case in point: Beautiful this past weekend in Northern Ontario when I decided to visit my cabin. The lake was just spectacularly peaceful Saturday morning when I set out in my kayak. It was the first test for my shoulder since recent surgery. My goal was to go about 5 kms to a next quiet spot I've frequented before. Approaching the area I thought I started to hear music. As I got closer with each stroke of the blade, it got louder and louder until the decibel level was at permanent hearing impairment levels. Not only that but the boat it was coming from was one of those gigantic pontoon boats, brand new by the looks of it with obviously a very modern sound system on board. Some guy about 60 and his wife were so involved looking at something on the other side of the boat that they didn't see me or hear me as I went past. I even yelled at them but to no avail. I wanted to tell them that as well as possessing the most decadent of large watercraft the lake has ever seen, that they were completely out of line playing music so loud at 6:30 in the freakin' morning. Assholes, through and through.

    Playing loud music has to be one the most noticeable characteristics of an asshole. I run into it time and time again. Many times I have thought that maybe I'm being too sensitive but then I only have to remind myself that most people don't act like that. What is it that compels an idiot to let the world know of his/her taste in music?


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    Well... As I am, sometimes, one of those assholes I must say that when I am listening to music at an eardrum shattering volume, it is generally because I want, and need, to drown out the world around me. My personal favorite for this is carmina burana O' Fortuna. Of course most classical works excessively well as it also drives off the assholes responsible for me being an asshole in the first place.


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    shame on me--- one day;
    bolero had just come on the radio as i pulled up to the wide open doors of the lumber yard, so i cranked the volume and let the truck doors hang open, and filled the very large space of the lumberyard building with maybe the best or Revel

    as I started my collecting, i noticed that people from all over the building were moving in the direction of the music

    OK so maybe i'm occasionally an asshole, but at least an asshole with good tastes, as is dmwyant
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    Lots of people actually have no idea that their taste in music at high volume is distressing to others. Often, if you tell them, they will turn down the volume. Then there is the true asshole who does not care.

    And it does not matter what the music is. Everyone is different and what one person thinks is great will be distressing to someone else.
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    H'mmm. Sound advice, skeptic. It comes back to an understanding of Community responsibilites. Mothers and Fathers are normally responsible for this input. But I think My Generation was the last to have responsible Mothers and Fathers. And the failure rate was probably just as high then as it is now. Young People, zero to 26 years, have to, somehow, let the World Know that they have arrived. Here I am, and I have an ASSHOLE attitude, and I would be happy if you really are Pissed off. See, you have got what I want, a respectful life, a nice car, a showroom house, and a kind and loving, competent, woman. The ignorant assholes will not wait and put the hard yards in that needs to be completed before these material desires can be achieved. Grow up I say, hit the brick wall, get over it, deal with it, and go get a real life. westwind.
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    For dmwyant.Der is this thing called a '' Generation Gap ''. I like 'Quote '' Red sails in the Sunset '', Im Dreaming of a White Xmas "", The Desert Song "", High Noon"", Tumbling Tumbleweed "" etc. Would you like me to vamp up the amps, churn out the lyrics, make windows rattle, cause traffic accidents with Bing's rendiition of White Xmas? Ohh, I also liked John Lennon singing Mr Kite, and the Circus coming to town. Now that you do not have knobs on your ipads etc, is your volumn programmed at max decibels??. westwind.
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    Westwind,
    Actually I understand the generation gap. My musical tastes range from classic composers to Bing Crosby, to Muddy Waters and on up into Modern Music the likes of Disturbed and Shinedown. And I also enjoy Bing's rendition of White Christmas. I was fortunate in that my parents raised me with a great variety of music and passed on excellent asthetic tastes. However I am also a 38 year old biker with tattoos that most of society would look at and assume was a brainless criminal type.
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    However I am also a 38 year old biker with tattoos that most of society would look at and assume was a brainless criminal type.
    Would never have pegged you!

    The music thing is probably just a symptom of a wider set of behaviours of your typical asshole, i.e. alpha wannabe.
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    The music thing is probably just a symptom of a wider set of behaviours of your typical asshole, i.e. alpha wannabe.
    How to be a loudmouth without any personal effort.

    Though I suspect with some people who go to a lot of concerts and dance parties, their real problem is that they're lsoing their hearing. They don't even know that it's too loud.
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    I always felt a part of it may have to do with attention seeking. A nice sort of 'passive' way of getting to go "Look at me, look at me, look at me!!"
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    The sensations of hearing and smell are special — we can't ignore them. We can divert/close our eyes, we can keep substances out of our mouths, and we can refrain from touching an object, and so, we can regulate our sensations of vision, taste and touch — but not hearing and smell. (I guess we get both [unwelcome] barrels with farts, both sound and smell.)

    We don't need to make an effort to pay attention to sounds and smells, they're automatic. So I guess that's why some people play loud music and why other people find it offensive. Many people identify with their music, so these people have a part of their world with them. Sound is a relatively low tech, low energy sensation, so it's easily portable and usable.

    I also find colognes and perfumes offensive when people douse themselves with the stuff. It's offensive, and I can't turn off my sense of smell.
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    There have always been inconsiderate A-holes; I don't think it has a thing to do with generations.
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    When I first read the thread title I thought it would be about people with 'singing bottoms'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisgorlitz View Post
    'singing bottoms'
    The stench accompanying those tunes is also very annoying. I hate assholes who let their assholes sing in public.
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    I run around a couple of Fells ( hills, mountains ) on a regular basis. Apart from the odd bleating of sheep the silence is deafening. However, usually on a Saturday or Sunday morning, I come across a guy playing the bagpipes, on a track in the middle of nowhere. I can hear the skirl of the pipes for a couple of minutes as I approach and pass the piper. As far as I am concerned, the piper is being very considerate to his neighbours, whom may become demented if he practised at home.
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    For dmwyant. Poste 7. I have an original American 33 RPM vinyal record of Muddy Waters and would be delighted if I could hand it to you. Also like Quote '' My Black Moma '' end Quote. Had this recording played on the BBC late night peoples choice programme recently. You can Google this recording up, just type in my black moma see what happens. Be happy to sit with you and your Tattoos and share Devonshire Tea and cream and jam and scones. As long as you pay. westwind.
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    Dear Dave Wilson. poste 15. Did you notice that the man playing the Scottish Reels has a Tam o'' Shanter in front of him on the ground? I know you wouldn't begrudge him a few Bawbees. westwind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by westwind View Post
    For dmwyant. Poste 7. I have an original American 33 RPM vinyal record of Muddy Waters and would be delighted if I could hand it to you. Also like Quote '' My Black Moma '' end Quote. Had this recording played on the BBC late night peoples choice programme recently. You can Google this recording up, just type in my black moma see what happens. Be happy to sit with you and your Tattoos and share Devonshire Tea and cream and jam and scones. As long as you pay. westwind.
    You were right Son House with Buddy Guy. Great tune. I would be happy to pick up the tab If I am ever across the pond so to speak.
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    For dmwyant. Have sent a private message but am never confident where the message will end up. Nothing really important but you could code me back on this Thread if you haven't received the message in 24 hours. Works most times but more by good luck than good management. westwind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by westwind View Post
    Dear Dave Wilson. poste 15. Did you notice that the man playing the Scottish Reels has a Tam o'' Shanter in front of him on the ground? I know you wouldn't begrudge him a few Bawbees. westwind.
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    For dmwyant. Muddy Waters double album Quote ; Chicago, 5 Golden Years '' end quote, cover concept and design by Nick Caruso. Originally released 1972 as McKinley Morganfield A/K/A Muddy Waters. Produced by Leonard Chess and Phil Chess. However, the Album I have was Pressed in France, distribution VOGUE P.I.P, 93430- Villetaneuse. VG 306 427005. All recordings from the 1948/1954 years. This information may enable you to track down some more information locally, or make some inquiries on the internet. Go man Go, Party Hardy. westwind.
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    This thread reminds me of this comic.

    As far as why some people are just assholes, you have to consider that nearly every creature in existence evolved to function somewhat selfishly out of necessity to survive. For millions of years, creatures would only cooperate with each other if it yielded increased survivability. After humans became "civilized" and societal protocols were developed, a stigma became attached to selfishness (and likewise, being selfless was seen as a more favorable trait), but even so, many people still have great difficulty overcoming their basic, animal survival instincts in day-to-day life. In the case of the individuals blasting music at 6:30 AM and others similar to them, the fact that others might be bothered by loud music at such an obscenely early hour quite literally never registers with them. They simply lack the sophistication necessary to have more complex thought processes when it comes to how they interact with their environment and others in it. It's a pity that seemingly so few are able (and care enough) to behave considerately.
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    as/re assholes
    there is an old zen saying that goes:
    "If I was disapointed, it was because I expected too much"

    personally
    I used to get really iritated with the noise from the speedboats oversized engines roaring down the valley
    and then, one day, I happened to be at the marina where there was a gathering of five or six of these v-8 powered water runners
    they were all nose in to their pod of like-minded people, chatting and occasionally revving an engine
    shortly, up came another speed-boat - put put putting into the pod-with loud greetings all around and more lively conversation
    after a little while(and maybe a shared beer) the recent arrival announced, "well, time to go have some fun" and his engine roared to life, then put put putted backwards out of the pod and out into the lake, and with a wave and a deafening roar, he sped off---to the cheers and shouts and fist pumping of his comrades
    --------------------------they seemed to be having so much fun---the joi de vive was infectious and gave me some infectious joy-------now
    when i hear the previously annoying noise, i remember how much fun those guys were having, and have the opposite feelings toward them
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    I don't think that they're doing it on purpose. And by 'that', I mean blasting songs with their systems. When we're reffering every human being on this planet who feels the urge to play his music in such fashion that everyone would hear it, I think we ought to think that it's rather the case of social indifferency, rather than being an asshole, on purpose.
    I guess it relies on your definition of "Asshole". My definition for an asshole is one that just does annoying things on purpose. Let us differ the assholes with the idiots. The "Idiots" aren't aware of their deeds. They're just doing whatever the heck they want. There's no society, noone exists but them. And so they are free of the thought of the better-for-the-society. In this case - Blasting tunes at 6 AM seems like no big problem for them. But did they do it on purpose, or were they just lacking the self-awarness? Perhaps they didn't give a flying duck about waking other people up.
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