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  1. #1 Innate fear of crows/ravens? 
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    Is it true that all mammals have an instinctive fear of the spread-out wings of crows and ravens? I do. I'm terrified of crows/ravens, just because of their feathery wings. My fear is amplified on windy days, when the air current could throw a raven/crow towards me. My fear is the result of the horrific tickling sensation that would occur if the spread-out wing of the raven/crow were to hit me.

    Crows/ravens are the only animals that scare me to the core.


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    Nuh. My husband loves them. I can take them or leave them.

    (For Australians, there's a fairly well-justified fear of being attacked by magpies during nesting season. Bear in mind that Australian magpies are nothing like European magpies. Europeans just called them magpies because they're black and white.)


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    Quote Originally Posted by adelady View Post
    Nuh. My husband loves them. I can take them or leave them.

    (For Australians, there's a fairly well-justified fear of being attacked by magpies during nesting season. Bear in mind that Australian magpies are nothing like European magpies. Europeans just called them magpies because they're black and white.)
    The weird thing is that I've never actually been attacked or tickled by the wing of a crow/raven. Perhaps my pre-historic mammalian ancestors were and the psychological trauma caused a genetic change which was passed down to me. This "corvidophobia gene" probably exists in all mammals but not all mammals experience the trait.
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    I really like crows.

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    Perhaps my pre-historic mammalian ancestors were and the psychological trauma caused a genetic change which was passed down to me.
    No. Just no. Genetics doesn't work like that.

    If it is causing you a problem, then you could get it cured. As far as I know, all phobias can be treated and minimized if not completely cured.

    Of course, you might have to get some of your other problems sorted out first...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Xenon View Post
    instinctive fear of the spread-out wings of crows and ravens?
    Unknown. But newborns do instinctively notice some patterns: the twin spots of eyes, and - perhaps your wings are here - the darker shape around a face, supposedly your parents' hair. These instincts help bootstrap a baby's social engagement and learning. Note the instinct prompts attention; it does not make baby like the object. Not much stretch from black shoulder-length hair, to outspread raven wings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Xenon View Post
    Is it true that all mammals have an instinctive fear of the spread-out wings of crows and ravens? I do. I'm terrified of crows/ravens, just because of their feathery wings. My fear is amplified on windy days, when the air current could throw a raven/crow towards me. My fear is the result of the horrific tickling sensation that would occur if the spread-out wing of the raven/crow were to hit me.

    Crows/ravens are the only animals that scare me to the core.
    I also love the corvid bird-folk, specifically the common Raven. Your fear may be based on the historical views on Crows/Ravens... A lot of cultures from around the world have feared the corvids as an omen, believing they were birds associated with death and ill-fortune, or were intelligent tricksters. This has been relatively well ingrained into contemporary culture as well.
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    all mammals have an instinctive fear ......
    It's really more like all prey (or potential prey) animals are born with the capacity for alertness.

    In a modern human environment, that can degenerate into general hyperalertness leading to anxiety disorders, or it can be focused on particular fears which may then become phobias.

    Sounds a bit like your hyperalertness is taking you into the phobia direction. A few sessions of Cognitive Behavioural Therapy might take care of it. Or you might prefer one of those people/organisations who specialise in fears and phobias. Snakes, spiders, flying and the like - I doubt that crows and ravens would be anything like as strange as some of the things other people have asked for help with.
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    Congratulations....The fear you experience is an inherited trait once held by our prehistoric mammalian ancestors. The little shrew-like furballs that would one day give rise to the human race knew enough to fear the sudden sight of large dark shadows as it usually meant they were about to become dinner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Xenon View Post
    Is it true that all mammals have an instinctive fear of the spread-out wings of crows and ravens? I do. I'm terrified of crows/ravens, just because of their feathery wings. My fear is amplified on windy days, when the air current could throw a raven/crow towards me. My fear is the result of the horrific tickling sensation that would occur if the spread-out wing of the raven/crow were to hit me.

    Crows/ravens are the only animals that scare me to the core.
    No, it is not true.
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