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  1. #1 Nature vs Nurture(not the debate) 
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    I would just like to know: Is it in our genes to care about what others think?? Is it inherent in us to look for aproval the way we do?? Like people that buy nice things to show off, act a certain fake way to look cool or whatever, or pursue a certain education for social status purposes.

    Or would you say these are more socially learned behaviours and that we're conditioned into being like this??

    I'm asking this because I feel like the secret to true happiness is to simple not care what others think. However, I'm not sure if stopping to care is even possible.

    Thanks in advance.


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    We are social animals. My opinion is that it is probably at least partly inherent.


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    I'm asking this because I feel like the secret to true happiness is to simple not care what others think. However, I'm not sure if stopping to care is even possible.
    True happiness? Finding the right balance once you realise that you are a unique individual who lives in a community composed entirely of unique individuals.

    And Harold's right, we are social animals. We cannot develop to adulthood, or even childhood, if we're not supported by adults who nurture our physical and other development. We are not like turtles that lay eggs and leave the young to find their own way to the sea and, should they be among the minuscule percentage that manage survival long enough to reproduce, rely on instinct to find their way back to the beach to lay their own eggs. We take care of our young and teach them what they need to know to survive and thrive. (Some of us are better at this than others are.)

    It's OK to not care what other people think - unless they're guiding you to a better understanding of how best to live with yourself and others. Who may or may not be like you. Working out whether the guidance you've been given is valuable often has to be left until enough time has elapsed to evaluate how successful you've been in living in your own skin and in the company of others.
    "Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak; courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen." Winston Churchill
    "nature is like a game of Jenga; you never know which brick you pull out will cause the whole stack to collapse" Lucy Cooke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thinka View Post
    I would just like to know: Is it in our genes to care about what others think??
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    Or would you say these are more socially learned behaviours and that we're conditioned into being like this??
    Surely this is the nature vs. nurture debate.

    Almost everything about us has both genetic and environmental/cultural factors. (Typically about 50/50.)

    But of course, any cultural factors are ultimately genetic anyway...
    Without wishing to overstate my case, everything in the observable universe definitely has its origins in Northamptonshire -- Alan Moore
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    Humans are a herd type species so being cooperative in social behavior naturally would produce caring about what others think. On the other hand this does not work when we live in a society where many people manipulate others for their own selfish motivations so in this case we cannot care what they think which would produce not being cooperative.
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    A good guide to which behaviours are mostly innate versus which are learned is their universality. An instinct will be displayed by all (or almost all) peoples all around the world. A learned behaviour will vary widely.

    For example : I believe a smile is innate. Everywhere you go, in all cultures, a smile means the same thing. However, communicating by gestures is learned. When a westerner makes a circle with thumb and forefinger, it is a learned gesture saying - things are OK. The same gesture used by an arab is sexual and insulting, and says "get f**ked"

    Do humans require the approval of others? Yes. And this is a universal trait. Therefore we can assume it is largely innate.
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