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  1. #1 Why are women & children most targeted by social predators? 
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    Why are women and children most targeted by social predators?

    What might be done to diminish this priority social problem?

    What explains the common public indifference, denial, and often levity and ridicule toward those who subject this critically important issue?


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    Predator behavior behavior like this is usually about power/control and women and children are usually smaller and easier to have power/control over. There's also probably something about empowered male roles in most societies which also fosters this sort of behavior.


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    As far as my studies have taken me, NotBob just summarized them swimmingly. All kudo's. Bravissimo. Would that there were or will be more like you in this regard, Sir or Madam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by That Rascal Puff
    As far as my studies have taken me, NotBob just summarized them swimmingly. All kudo's. Bravissimo. Would that there were or will be more like you in this regard, Sir or Madam.
    Right on! :-D
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    Quote Originally Posted by That Rascal Puff
    Why are women and children most targeted by social predators?

    What might be done to diminish this priority social problem?

    What explains the common public indifference, denial, and often levity and ridicule toward those who subject this critically important issue?
    Because if the sexual predator wants something he looks for the difference and what he can do with it. It is about power and the idea of them being weak, he is weak and so he will go after the pray.

    Because people, society, want to deny that these things happen every day and they dont have the right methods to stop them or to explain them.
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    Have wretched and NotBob been collaborating with each other?

    Do they not individually or tandemly realize that sociopolitical and phenomenological alignment and resonance with this record is construed as heresy in some influential circles?

    That there is a 'they' & 'them' and they have ways of dealing with people like 'us'...?
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    Since women and children are normally consider the "weaker" of society, this is what the predator will go after. Only becuase they are scared of a challenge and being caught. If the predatoer is truly insane, I dont think it would matter whether it is child or adult, male or female.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redrum4196
    Since women and children are normally consider the "weaker" of society, this is what the predator will go after.
    Also, is the predator is a man, women would tend to be a more practical choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by That Rascal Puff
    Have wretched and NotBob been collaborating with each other?

    Do they not individually or tandemly realize that sociopolitical and phenomenological alignment and resonance with this record is construed as heresy in some influential circles?

    That there is a 'they' & 'them' and they have ways of dealing with people like 'us'...?
    I guess I missed that... hmm

    Oh sure, the pronouns, including and excluding, eerr. Well, let me think, if I were a sexual predator I would choose shy guys ? I dont think so, I guess I will find someone like me, someone who has the same temper and weakneses, but no idea what would I do to him... maybe not one of "them"
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    Quote Originally Posted by wretched
    Well, let me think, if I were a sexual predator I would choose shy guys ? I dont think so, I guess I will find someone like me, someone who has the same temper and weakneses, but no idea what would I do to him...
    Something wretched, no doubt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermes
    Quote Originally Posted by wretched
    Well, let me think, if I were a sexual predator I would choose shy guys ? I dont think so, I guess I will find someone like me, someone who has the same temper and weakneses, but no idea what would I do to him...
    Something wretched, no doubt.
    yeah, for sure... maybe i must start to plan something
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    compared to other countries i think america is supposed to have a pretty high amount of crimes. does anyone know or have a list of countries with the least amount of crimes? ive looked but couldnt find. I think it might help in seeing why we have so many.
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    Tokyo, Japan. Among the most densely populated demographys in the world. It also has one of the world community's lowest crime rates (Although as they continue to be 'Americanized', their crime rate is increasing) So much for the myth that violence must go up with increasing population.
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    I remember seeing a show where monkeys in a city in India would attack and steal form woment and children but not from men.
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  16. #15 Why are women/children most targeted by social predators? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by That Rascal Puff
    What explains the common public indifference, denial, and often levity and ridicule toward those who subject this critically important issue?
    Could it be, dare I say...

    Hegemony?
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    Firstly, would somebody like to clarify the word "predator". Talk to any hospital casualty section and they quote figures of ten men injured in prredatory attacks for every woman or child.


    Women and childen may draw more social revulsion, and, consequestly, more publicity, but they are not the major victims of violence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sparticuss
    Firstly, would somebody like to clarify the word "predator". Talk to any hospital casualty section and they quote figures of ten men injured in prredatory attacks for every woman or child.


    Women and childen may draw more social revulsion, and, consequestly, more publicity, but they are not the major victims of violence.
    of course your correct. crimes against children has taken on a frantic pace in the US, while thousands of others die from horrific causes. in fact 6,000+ people on average die daily in the US for some reason.

    i do hate to see any child hurt or killed by the hand of a sick-o, but then i am just as effected by a family killed off from a fire or even an old guy that gets caught up in cross fire on the street. but those do not make good news stories or advance any cause...
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    Everyone assumes the premise is true, but are women and children really the most victims of PREDITORS if we rule out stronger men beating their weaker wives which is unfortunately rather common!?

    We seem to lack statistics, but I suspect the number of boys (young men) in their early teens who have been raped by sexual predictors is very large. The Catholic Church's drain of funds to support law suits attests to that.

    We hear very little about it, also, but there is a significant number of mothers and other women who sexually abuse children.

    Another thought: "straight" men can be terrible prededitors. For two years I manned merchant vessels and remember two seamen who slept with prostitutes (this was in pre-Marxist China) in the street and then, without paying them, stole their little rings while they slept, and then left. Most amazing of all, when they got back on board, they bragged about it!

    What scum!

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    Quote Originally Posted by redrum4196 View Post
    Since women and children are normally consider the "weaker" of society
    Now that's just silly. Women are generally weaker than men and children are weaker than adults. That's a fact, not an opinion.
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    lol wow, mad, did you get bored? this thread is from 2006. Are any of the original participants even active anymore?
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    Quote Originally Posted by seagypsy View Post
    lol wow, mad, did you get bored? this thread is from 2006. Are any of the original participants even active anymore?
    ...Or still alive?


    At least he necromanced with an accurate statement. :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neverfly View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by seagypsy View Post
    lol wow, mad, did you get bored? this thread is from 2006. Are any of the original participants even active anymore?
    ...Or still alive?


    At least he necromanced with an accurate statement. :P
    True but it's still funny.
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    Women and children are soft target. They often cannot put up a great fight agianst the attacker. That is why they are often targeted. The only way to deter this evil is capital punishment.
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    Assuming the woman isn't a 200 pound Samoan, women are generally weaker than men "except limp wristed pansies that don't even qualify for being men".
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    I haven't got a reference to hand but I think it was Steven Pinker who shows statistics that show the biggest killer of young men between 18 and 30 years is ....... other young men. When it comes to victims of violence I don't think there is much of a gender divide in Western countries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seagypsy View Post
    lol wow, mad, did you get bored? this thread is from 2006. Are any of the original participants even active anymore?
    i don't recall how I came across this thread, but I didn't realize it had been inactive since 2006.Oh well, maybe some of these guys will show up again and can pick up right where they left off. Look at me. I made just one post in 2007, 2010, and 2011 before showing up again in late 2012 and sticking around.
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    Over on SciForums, someone necroed his own four year old thread with an "I told you so!" update. I got a kick out of that- he waited four years to post in his own thread... His previous years old post said, "I'll return in four years when we see how this turns out."

    And he did.
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    The only way to deter this evil is capital punishment.
    I suggest you do a bit of research on murder rates in countries that do and countries that don't use capital punishment.

    It simply is not that straightforward.
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    Just to make sure I understand the question, what is a "Social" predator?




    "The only way to deter this evil is capital punishment."
    False.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adelady View Post
    The only way to deter this evil is capital punishment.
    I suggest you do a bit of research on murder rates in countries that do and countries that don't use capital punishment. It simply is not that straightforward.
    Deterrent or no, the death penalty for murderers is justice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madanthonywayne View Post
    Deterrent or no, the death penalty for murderers is justice.
    Yes, it can be called Justice. It can also be called revenge.

    I oppose the Death Penalty in principle-- Many Innocent People get caught up in the thirst for revenge, even though I do not necessarily oppose the concept of revenge.

    I've noticed that once those who desire revenge decide a person is guilty, no evidence will change their minds. They become determined to enact revenge on that person no matter what and seem oblivious to the problem of an actual guilty party going free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madanthonywayne View Post
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    The only way to deter this evil is capital punishment.
    I suggest you do a bit of research on murder rates in countries that do and countries that don't use capital punishment. It simply is not that straightforward.
    Deterrent or no, the death penalty for murderers is justice.
    I'm not really going to get into this one on capital punishment because we had a debate on this a few months back and it evoked rather strong emotions. But without getting into the morality of the issue we can say that the idea is a bit like sweeping our problems under the rug. How much do we learn when we kill people? If we put them in prison at least we can see if those people are capable of change, we can study them and learn how to prevent such offending in the future, which if this stops other murders can only be a good thing. But ultimately our laws arn't, or at least shouldn't be about revenge, this is non productive. Our laws should be about creating the best possible society in which to live. If we start by setting a precedent that it's ok or right to kill people for revenge then what kind of message does that send out into our society?, perhaps that life isn't that important or valuable perhaps? It 'isn't' our job to extract revenge, even if you wish to call this justice, it 'is' our job as law abiding & responsible citizens to uphold laws that protect us from dangerous criminals, that help to ensure that such criminals are locked away for our protection, not to hurt someone because we are angry at the crimes they have committed.
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    Can? We don't. They throw them in prison and forget them. Who knows what really goes on in prisons... It's harsh and very corrupt most everywhere, from what I gather.
    And year after year, we find out many innocent people were sent to them.

    I find the prison and punishment system to be archaic and absurd. It does more harm than good. But reform is nowhere near the horizon- people like to sweep things under the rug and they certainly don't want to examine that, do they?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NotBob View Post
    Predator behavior behavior like this is usually about power/control and women and children are usually smaller and easier to have power/control over. There's also probably something about empowered male roles in most societies which also fosters this sort of behavior.
    I agree completely, predators want power control and women and children are the easiest to control
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    I cannot answer this question because the hypothesis that it is based upon (that women and children are the main victims of violence) is false, but as this post is from 2006, I don't think I'll bother defending against statements like "Men beating their wives is rather common", so I'll just leave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascended View Post

    I'm not really going to get into this one on capital punishment because we had a debate on this a few months back and it evoked rather strong emotions. But without getting into the morality of the issue we can say that the idea is a bit like sweeping our problems under the rug. How much do we learn when we kill people? If we put them in prison at least we can see if those people are capable of change, we can study them and learn how to prevent such offending in the future, which if this stops other murders can only be a good thing. But ultimately our laws arn't, or at least shouldn't be about revenge, this is non productive. Our laws should be about creating the best possible society in which to live. If we start by setting a precedent that it's ok or right to kill people for revenge then what kind of message does that send out into our society?, perhaps that life isn't that important or valuable perhaps? It 'isn't' our job to extract revenge, even if you wish to call this justice, it 'is' our job as law abiding & responsible citizens to uphold laws that protect us from dangerous criminals, that help to ensure that such criminals are locked away for our protection, not to hurt someone because we are angry at the crimes they have committed.
    And then sometimes, they are let off with a good behaviour bond.

    A FATHER who repeatedly raped his daughter for years - only to get off with a good behaviour bond - claims it is not his fault the teenager is now suicidal and depressed.

    The 19-year-old victim, who collapsed and was admitted to hospital in despair at the lenient sentence, is suing her father for damages in what her lawyer Greg Walsh said was her only way to get some justice.


    Since the sentence, the young woman has been re-admitted to hospital as she continues to battle depression.


    "She is doing this because she can't get justice anywhere else," Mr Walsh said yesterday.


    While the father, 55, escaped a prison sentence for the long-running sexual abuse, he was last week threatened with jail by a Supreme Court judge if he spent any of his money pending the outcome of the civil case.
    They don't jail him for repeatedly raping his daughter since she was 9 years of age, a charge he admitted guilt to, but they threaten to jail him if he spends any of his money because she is going to sue him for damages to pay for her medical treatment. Stealing her innocence and raping her for years is not worthy of jail, but stealing what could potentially be her money is worthy of jail if he spends it.

    Is it wrong of me to think that is just screwed up? Where are our priorities?

    While our laws should be about creating a safe and stable society in which to live in, I can't help feeling that sometimes it's just an absolute mess and the injustice of cases such as this one makes me wish for some sort of pain for people who commit such crimes.
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    but stealing what could potentially be her money is worthy of jail if he spends it.
    Well, a Supreme Court judge isn't going to come right out and say bluntly that another legal jurisdiction got it wrong. S/he can only take the best available actions to ensure that the legal system doesn't let this young woman down any further than it already has for this legal process.
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