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  1. #1 Which came first... ? 
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    I am a student, getting my Masters of Counseling Psych... A question was posed as to which came first emotions or thoughts.

    My answer, thoughts- In my mind if we had no thoughts we would have no emotions.

    What are your thoughts?


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    if we had no thoughts we would have no emotions
    Sounds to me as though you didn't get your undergrad in psychology.


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    Clearly, you don't have anything to add to the question. Thank you for your profound insight though.
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    I think his point was that they call the emotional centers the "reptilian brain" for a reason. Explore that... What is a "thought?" What is an "emotion?" When looking back across the eons, which do you think evolved first?

    Reptilian brain. Emotional center... I'm being a bit cryptic, but are you following my point?
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    I rarely make personal comments; however, I am more concerned about your future patients. My family and my life was wrecked by incompetent psychologists. I had to sue one of them to get him to leave me alone. (It's truly amazing what a lawsuit in federal court can do to wake up some stuffed-shirt nincompoops who operate using emotions instead of thoughts, and I recommend it to anyone who suffers from incompetent psychologists, psychiatrists, counselors, therapists, astrologers, tarot card readers, palm readers, crystal ball gazers, readers of entrails, etc.) I've had a couple of others lie to my face --- and they knew it, and I knew it, and it's all part of the game they play. And it is all a game ... dangerous to their patients, and profitable to them. [sarcasm]What a humane profession that tinkers with the inner workings of the mind!![/sarcasm]

    Here's three thoughts that almost instantly came to mind. Too bad my thoughts weren't strong enough to subdue my emotions in my first post.

    Evolution: Lower-order animals operate using emotions, and that humans have the most advanced use of thought/reason.

    Lifespan: Little kids operate on the emotional level (cry, scream, bite, hit, etc). Only later do adults and (hopefully) teenagers learn to operate mostly by thoughts that suppress/override emotions.

    Spontaneously: Sexual ogling, road rage, sibling rivalry, etc all come about through emotions first, and thoughts second (if at all). As the wise ones say, "Think before you act".

    Shaddai, I apologize for my previous personally-directed remark. (But I recommend keeping the federal lawsuit thing in the back of your mind because, if I thought of it, surely others will too.)
    Grief is the price we pay for love. (CM Parkes) Our postillion has been struck by lightning. (Unknown) War is always the choice of the chosen who will not have to fight. (Bono) The years tell much what the days never knew. (RW Emerson) Reality is not always probable, or likely. (JL Borges)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jrmonroe
    Shaddai, I apologize for my previous personally-directed remark.
    Although your remark was personally directed it only required an apology because it appeared to be so damned accurate.

    Shaddai,
    I do not intend that as a personal remark, but as a note of concern: concern that you should be feeling. The issue is so clear cut that a simple minded geologist, such as myself, is well aware of the 'correct' answer. You should be troubled that you are not already well versed in this notion.

    And here is a word to add some depth to the matter: rationalisation.
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