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  1. #1 Doctors labelling people with 'Social Disorders'. 
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    I just watched a program on TV about Tourettes Syndrome...

    It seemed to me that these people were completely incapable of holding back their thoughts altogether. For example: one of the girls couldnt help but blurt out "Fatty!"..... F**& off!" when a larger girl was standing next to her. There didnt seem to be anything random about what she was saying.

    A thought crossed my mind based on this and I was wondering if someon give me closure to this 'argument':

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    If a well respected doctor diagnoses a person with a social disorder based on their symptoms.
    And if he labels this person with such a disorder, say "Tourettes".
    And if the person beleives what the doctor says.

    Then wouldnt this give this peron the inability to diagnose what the problem actually is.
    Instead would it not give this person reason to 'give up' thinking "It's okay I have tourettes".


    Also:
    Isnt the problem about society not accepting behaviour out of the ordinary and giving labels such as 'disorder' or 'syndrome' to those who dont conform?


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    Interesting subject.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimis
    If a well respected doctor diagnoses a person with a social disorder based on their symptoms.
    And if he labels this person with such a disorder, say "Tourettes".
    And if the person beleives what the doctor says.

    Then wouldnt this give this person the inability to diagnose what the problem actually is.
    Instead would it not give this person reason to 'give up' thinking "It's okay I have tourettes".

    Also:
    Isnt the problem about society not accepting behaviour out of the ordinary and giving labels such as 'disorder' or 'syndrome' to those who dont conform?
    I don't know much about the Tourettes syndrome, but isn't this something with a physical cause? So just like someone with a spasm can't control his/her body, these persons can't control their speech?

    But I get the impression as well that people with 'strange' behaviour are now more quickly diagnosed with some disorder then in the past. For example children are now very easily diagnosed as 'hyperactive', while in many cases this may just be normal pubescent behaviour.


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    I agree with Pendragon. Your post, Jimis, raises two separate issues.

    Tourettes syndrome is one with well established physical connections. However, if one were incorrectly diagnosed with Tourettes what a field day one could have being rude to anyone one wished, at any time and in any place.

    There is also, undoubtedly, a tendency to brand persons who behave abnormally as having some kind of disorder. This isn't new. In the middle ages people were said to have been possessed by devils, for example. It is likely all related to societies way of suppressing deviation from the norm; an effective practice for maintaining species integrity and identity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophiolite
    It is likely all related to societies way of suppressing deviation from the norm; an effective practice for maintaining species integrity and identity.
    Sure thing, I think the same, any individual who dares to break some social rules will be seen as a sick individual and sent to seek medical or pshicological advise. Seems like people is scared of what they cant understand or tolerate, cant see a new perspective or point of view of life.


    "Isnt the problem about society not accepting behaviour out of the ordinary and giving labels such as 'disorder' or 'syndrome' to those who dont conform?"

    Yes, I agree, the problem with this is that they make feel these people as out of the normal, making a real problem. Giving them the feeling they dont belong and that their ideas dont come from reality, nothing more false than that. They forget the social part of it.
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    Tourette's is usually dianosed by the time you're a teenager and if only it was as simple as blurting things out, the other symptoms can be pretty severe and debilitating. Diagnoses are as much for the patient and the insurance world as they are for the doctors though. If you knew you were sick in some way, wouldn't you want to find out its name? I don't think doctors are out to label anyone at all, they'd rather do something else, but if they want to get paid then they have to diagnose you according to a fairly complex system requiring office staff and software to sort it all out for them. If someone just wanted to blurt things out at people and scream and yell, why would they need a doctor's diagnosis to do that? It brings to mind some sort of badge or stamp of approval with a face on it that says "Certified Insane." Just get your dirty work done where you'll never see anyone again. 8)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimis
    Then wouldnt this give this peron the inability to diagnose what the problem actually is.
    Instead would it not give this person reason to 'give up' thinking "It's okay I have tourettes".
    I am not sure about Tourette's Syndrom but, I understand what your getting at.

    It really bothers me too. The place I see this problem is ADD. A doctor could label almost anyone with ADD. Especially teenagers who are going through many changes. Also, some personality traits could be mistaken as ADD.

    In my opinion most of these issues are completely ego issues (that often come and go). Scientists and doctors like to say they found the cause but, all they find is some chemical imbalance that is there when the person is expressing the "disorder". By effectively labeling the patiant as a "patiant" or "a person with a disorder" they can now prescribe drugs and the person is given special attention. When you are diagnosed you all of the sudden have a problem that you didn't have before. This is not healthy to one's ego. These people should go to counciling and learn to face their ego and change it if they wish.

    I am not very good at explaining this so sorry if it is confusing. Please ask if you don't understand.
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    I dont understand why society has to always label things to make it seem right. Like co-dependent disorder, I mean, some people just depend on people more because in their mind, it is the most efficient way of survival.
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