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  1. #1 Men Are Objectified Waay More Than Women 
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    This is only my opinion. I think this is true because:

    -many women I know, when a man approaches them tell me they think "oh..it's just another horny guy trying to hit on me"..they don't even give most guys the time of day to be anything more than a random person

    -men love everything about women...their sexy voices, their laughter, their legs, their breasts, their sexy movements, their hairstyles..they don't objectify, their smarts... they basically worship and desire the whole of a woman's being....now I'm talking about the "nice guys" so maybe that is where the problem comes in and leads to...

    this:

    - women categorizing men unjustly..this guy here is "too nice" aka avoid at all costs..this guy is "too needy" avoid at all costs..this guy is a "bad ass" because he has lots of tattoos and doesn't appear to care about me...aka EPIC WIN

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    Men would never have to objectify women if they would put out more often. Then they wouldn't feel like hormonally charged up sexually desperate maniacs. They would be sexually fulfilled and would appreciate women more. Just sayin'.


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    Well let's see, if you are looking for a date, this is the wrong forum and if you are looking for some advice I'm not confident you will get anything useful here. However if you just want to complain, then I can agree with you. I think where the real problem comes in is that women equate the term “nice guy” as uninteresting or boring.

    Nice guys who are interesting and not boring to be with don't get talked about and don't have a problem getting women (IMO).

    Has anyone talked to you about finding miss wrong to have sex with? The point is there are some things far worse than not getting any.


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    I just like to complain. People here know that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gottspieler
    I just like to complain. People here know that.
    Your posting seemed to have a lot of emotion behind it. Otherwise I wouldn't have responded as I did. I do think most guys can relate to what you said.

    Whenever I watch that history program called Ancient Aliens, I think of women. What can I say, if they weren't alien we would understand them by now wouldn't we?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gottspieler
    This is only my opinion. I think this is true because:

    -many women I know, when a man approaches them tell me they think "oh..it's just another horny guy trying to hit on me"..they don't even give most guys the time of day to be anything more than a random person

    -men love everything about women...their sexy voices, their laughter, their legs, their breasts, their sexy movements, their hairstyles..they don't objectify, their smarts... they basically worship and desire the whole of a woman's being....now I'm talking about the "nice guys" so maybe that is where the problem comes in and leads to...

    this:

    - women categorizing men unjustly..this guy here is "too nice" aka avoid at all costs..this guy is "too needy" avoid at all costs..this guy is a "bad ass" because he has lots of tattoos and doesn't appear to care about me...aka EPIC WIN

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    Men would never have to objectify women if they would put out more often. Then they wouldn't feel like hormonally charged up sexually desperate maniacs
    . They would be sexually fulfilled and would appreciate women more. Just sayin'.
    the bit there that I have highlighted in red IS EXACTLY what sexual objectification is. You are sexually objectifying the whole of the woman.
    what about her personality; her individual likes/dislikes her achievements her goals in life etc. - thats the real her that every woman desires to be known and worshiped.....


    the bit I highlighted in green - OMG - lets not even go there! women have to put out more?

    Sounds to me like you have had a few knockbacks!
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    the bit there that I have highlighted in red IS EXACTLY what sexual objectification is. You are sexually objectifying the whole of the woman.
    WRONG. Their laughter and their smarts were included in my list of things men usually admire. Part of the whole, which, yes, includes looks.

    And yeah. More sex for guys=happier, kinder, calmer more attentive guys (it's a win-win for both sexes..you give him sex and get love and affection in return :P )
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    Quote Originally Posted by gottspieler
    And yeah. More sex for guys=happier, kinder, calmer more attentive guys (it's a win-win for both sexes..you give him sex and get love and affection in return :P )
    I guess you've never been in a relationship with a woman who has more of a sex drive than you do? If you ever do, you will understand something you clearly do not now.

    When you look for someone to hook up with, does desired sexual frequency come up in conversation before you start talking about living together? It should, I'm thinking a good dating service will probably have that question covered before you ever meet with someone.

    I guess the point being is you aren't going to be able change someone else preferences. The best you can hope to do is find someone who likes it as often as you do.
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    Hmm... I've batted you around somewhat harshly in the past, so need to be cautious how I approach this one. I think the concept of "nice guy" is a bit misguided. You are much more accurately described as an insecure, emotionally volatile young man who doesn't quite know who he is yet, has some issues to deal with, and struggles with women because many of them want much of the opposite... a secure, emotionally stable man who knows who he is, where he is heading, and how he can survive.

    They may say nice guy to avoid hurting your feelings, but the "nice guy" concept is IMO an immediate red flag (I used to think about myself that way, too, which is the only reason I can say this with any degree of clarity). IINM, using that term really means you're not being honest with yourself about why you're not getting dates, and it's just easier to say, "it's just because I'm a nice guy and chicks dig tattoos." Pulleez... if it were really that easy, you could get a tattoo tonight. There's more to it than that. It's about you being a bit lost, a bit insecure, and having a lot of emotions you're not 100% sure how to process.

    Too harsh? I tried to be soft and empathetic and crap... I'm not very good at that, though.
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    I can honestly say that I objectify men more than women.

    Reminds me of a comic strip by Alison Bechdel too.

    "I almost went to bed
    without remembering
    the four white violets
    I put in the button-hole
    of your green sweater

    and how i kissed you then
    and you kissed me
    shy as though I'd
    never been your lover "
    - Leonard Cohen
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    Thanks inow. And don't worry, you are never harsh..just honest. I'm talking to a girl right now I get along with well and truly care for. My rant was merely a generalized rant against women...lol...even when I'm married I'll complain :-D
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    Quote Originally Posted by gottspieler
    ...even when I'm married I'll complain :-D
    Then, finally, you will have justification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gottspieler
    My rant was merely a generalized rant against women...lol...even when I'm married I'll complain :-D
    ...and so will she.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gottspieler
    This is only my opinion. I think this is true because:

    -many women I know, when a man approaches them tell me they think "oh..it's just another horny guy trying to hit on me"..they don't even give most guys the time of day to be anything more than a random person

    -men love everything about women...their sexy voices, their laughter, their legs, their breasts, their sexy movements, their hairstyles..they don't objectify, their smarts... they basically worship and desire the whole of a woman's being....now I'm talking about the "nice guys" so maybe that is where the problem comes in and leads to...

    this:

    - women categorizing men unjustly..this guy here is "too nice" aka avoid at all costs..this guy is "too needy" avoid at all costs..this guy is a "bad ass" because he has lots of tattoos and doesn't appear to care about me...aka EPIC WIN

    Also...

    Men would never have to objectify women if they would put out more often. Then they wouldn't feel like hormonally charged up sexually desperate maniacs. They would be sexually fulfilled and would appreciate women more. Just sayin'.
    You my friend are seriously wrong about this. At least here where I'm from. Men definitely objectify more!! Any man, anyy, at least the ones I got to know, will always pay more attention to a pretty girl than he would to an average looking smart girl. I know this, because I'm an average looking person, but still, people tend to judge me for my jumpsuit, or my short hair, or my Lennon glasses. That's just how it is, it's normal. Even tho it is said "Don't judge a book by its covers" we all do it, men and women. The thing is, normal (when I say that I mean people that have a bit of brain and sense) whether male or female are capable of judging personality, not just looks. The rest, or "the kewwl kids" are the ones that obsess over, when it comes to men (boobs, bottom and stuff) or if u are female (ABS, biceps and so on)
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    From my experience women don't really care much about looks.
    Out of everyone I know the best guy at picking up girls was actually quite fat (nearly 300 lbs). However, he had a very powerful voice, was extremely charismatic and funny, and exceptionally confident (I don't think I have the balls to say some of the things he did and in the way he did to girls-and that just might be the reason why he was so successful).

    Ever heard of a fat attractive girl? Sounds like an oxymoron!
    It seems plainly obvious that we men by the very nature of how we judge a women's attractiveness are much more prone to objectification.
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    I think that both men and women are typically thought of as two separate objects in the world to be experienced and observed separately and differently than one's own gender. As a result one tends to needlessly point out the differences in each gender, trying to refute the other gender's competence in some way (if one is attempting to compare the two from this perspective) when one really needs to understand that each gender is a different half of the single "whole" that is humanity, and thus play equally important roles in sustaining it to the full capacity of each gender's strongest abilities.

    Men are women are neither greater nor lesser to one another. They each have their own abilities and if given the appropriate guidance and support both genders can shake off their former assumptions about one another, and finally enjoy each other's company as true equals - not someone or something that is misunderstood or never to be understood.
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    You are responding to a thread that was started on the 4th January 2011. You will, in all probability, not get a response from the OP. On top of that, your post makes very little sense to me. Just saying is all. :}
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