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  1. #1 Psychology of a God, what would his motivations be? 
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    Note that im an Atheist. Yet i believe if there WAS a god, this world would be the outcome. Why? Very , very simple psychology. This is my idea having toyed with the idea "If i was a God"


    I am alone in nothingness and theres no change , no time. This is boring. I wish it to be space and time.

    Creates big bang.

    Now my will has space to move in, but it is boring here all alone. Theres no reason to create life only to watch it as i would know all outcomes and fates instantly being omnipotent.There is no exitement! I wish i was ignorant so ill divide my conciousness on all living beings. But as i see all time and possible outcomes i must first create safe measures

    Creates a cyclic universe/ Big crunch.

    Now i will seize to be omipotent, and live life eternally through the eyes of individual life. Not alone but together with others. Ill feel love and hate, there will always be change. I will not know the truth and therefore i will as living creatures always live in blissfull ignorance. I will die and be reborn eternally in this system i have created.


    So thats basicly it. Trying to use simple motivations of what a God would want. Basicly its a theory that our entire universe is god. That God dont have a personality - he made the possibility of life - to live in ignorance on purpose through us. Meaning in a way that all humans are the same person - the creator. That all living things is that God, who wished change to a more dynamic existence. Who wished to live life not knowing everything, cause that would be boring :P

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    My initial thought is congratulations; that yours is not a bad contemplation at all - at all. For mine, it shows a willingness, capacity and freedom of thought to reason outsde the box. But here now, is my first question - what did you look like, before you decided to create something else besides (or is that in lieu of) - yourself?

    I mean, did you have a shape and location?

    BTW - From my position, you have much personality.


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    Raziell, it's not a bad idea and if it were original you could probably make a name for yourself. Pity it isn't.
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    Apopohis: No shape or form, only a will? A thought? One thing i cant imagine nomatter how hard i try - is how one would process thought in a timeless existence.

    Ophiolite: Nothing new under the sun eh? I didnt expect noone to have been thinking the same thing the last thousand of years
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    I would like to ask why you have chosen to "think" as a monothestic deity (presumably the one as proposed by the abrahamic faiths), as opposed to non-monothestic deities from many other faiths.

    Did your exposure to the various forms of deities limit the scope of your idea you have put forth?
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    [quote="Raziell"]Note that im an Atheist. Yet i believe if there WAS a god, this world would be the outcome. Why? Very , very simple psychology. This is my idea having toyed with the idea "If i was a God"


    I am alone in nothingness and theres no change , no time. This is boring. I wish it to be space and time.

    Creates big bang.


    You have'nt created time yet so you'll have a tough job doing any thinking at all.
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    I find great difficultly with understanding where a god concept would manifest the emotions, feelings, etc., that we experience. They arise through the evolutionary processes through natural selection and the other bits.
    To make sense of any motivation would lead to pondering out how the cause has the value in the first place.

    If they are not a product or byproduct from a process like evolution, their being a part of this being is rather odd.

    Regardless, it is amusing to flash the idea that existence comes from boredom so to speak.
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    Unfortunately, I think you suffer from what many religious people suffer from too; Knowing the will of a God. Can't believe i'm using this argument on an atheist, but how can a mere human such as yourself truly know the mind of a God? Of coure the standard WE [athiests] hold a hypothetical god to aren't necessarily inclusive of omnipotence and omniscience (sp?), but nevertheless I think that your comments are purely speculative of which a large proportion of similar arguments would hold equally valid - all sharing a lack of evidence. Logical reasoning is good for speculation, but not so good for evidence.

    By the sheer nature of the god we hypothesise here (the all-knowing aspect), he would most likely be bored irrespective of whether or not he creates the universe because his all-knowingness MUST include the interactions of matter. If we speculate that the big bang was similar to a black hole (and that god was the singularity - which would explain the soul-spreading you referred to) then it is very possible that god was a physical entity. Unless we take it less literal and assume he was all-knowing in that he actually encompassed everything as one (much like a singularity) but not necessairly knowing everything. Is your argument coming from a materialistc viewpoint?

    Perhaps (and this is a notion i'm currently working on) god can be conceived in the physical realm as existing AS THE SINGULARITY. Such ideas would bring up even more problems though, as the singularity would encompass everything and nothing at the same time. Take the smallest conceivable component of matter (strings?) and crush them all together.

    At least in this sort of view you can provide observational evidence.

    Saying 'god did this because we logically think this should be like that' is emulating our own primitive species to level we have yet to fully acheive. I don't like speculation of the mind of god, but I do think there is a potential for a god based on physical matter. Even so, understanding quantum mechanics will no doubt unlock some more doors for us to explore!
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    I'm an atheist too and I find the "what if I were god" scenario totally worthless, no matter if the imagined god has the charactersistics of the biblical god or not.
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    Raziell, your proposition is very interesting (although, on a minor point, it anthropomorphizes god and supposes that god can suffer from boredom, self depreciation due to lack of accomplishment, and so on).

    So, you ask why ... why all of this ... from a spiritual perspective. Yet, in the end, even scientists will want to know why the physical laws are the way they are and why fundamental phenomena (such as mass, energy, gravity, etc) exist.
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