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  1. #1 OEDIPUS/ELECTRA COMPLEX 
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    Hi! I'm a newbie here. I went straight up joining in this forum and skipped the introduction. It's my cup of tea that I'm pretty much enthusiastic to share anything in matters pertaining to study of human's behaviors and its roots that cause such particular behavior.

    The one topic I'd like to come up with is the main theory Sigmund Freud had: The Oedipus Complex, theorized unconscious sexual desire for parent: according to the psychoanalytic theory of Sigmund Freud, feelings or desires originating when a child, especially a son, unconsciously seeks sexual fulfillment with the parent of the opposite sex. While Electra Complex is a daughter's supposed attraction to her father: in psychoanalysis, a daughter's unconscious unresolved sexual attraction to her father .

    What I'd like to bring about is that how this can be related to incest in any possible way? Or aren't they?
    Incest is a sex between close relatives: sexual activity between two people who are considered, for moral or genetic reasons, too closely related to have such a relationship.
    Incest is regarded as a serious taboo in almost every society, although cultures differ as to the extent to which marriages are allowed between relatives.
    Thanks! Best regards!


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    Freud's theories have been considered wrong - often spectacularily so - for many decades. I'd like to join you in an active discussion, especially since you are new to the forum (welcome, by the way), but I don't see the merit in picking over outmoded, discarded concepts.

    On the incest front the taboos are perfectly reasonable from an evolutionary standpoint. Any of our ancestors who practiced incest would be more likely to produce offspring in which deleterious recessive genes were the only alleles available. These offspring would have lowered levels of survival, so that individuals with a genetic predisposition to enage in incest would be negatively favoured.


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    I think freud may have a point there with this Oedipus Complex idea. If there is hormonal activity from the child, and there is a close emotional bond with the parent, which is quite common, then they may be attracted to the parent sexually because of trust. Trust is an emotion basedon fear because it neutralises fearful feelings and brings warmth to the life of the child, and anyone that a child trusts will recieve their interest.

    If the child trusts the parent, and feels warm in thier presence, then the hormones will be activated because of a bond between the mind and the hromones as they spend time with the parent. They will look to the parent to confirm thier life questions and will usually, especially if very young, fear social rejection and try to find their answers at home, with a parent or sibling. This bond may fade with less frequent encounters, but when young and with the parent a lot they will be so close that they will feel comfort, and when comfortable hormones become activated when with another of the pposite sex due to phermones and such.

    Quite natural really. Incestial feelings are really natural.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlatan
    and when comfortable hormones become activated when with another of the pposite sex due to phermones and such.

    Quite natural really. Incestial feelings are really natural.
    So we are automatically attracted to the parent of the opposite sex due to pheromones? This is quite a leap. How do you explain the fact that we are not, then, naturally attracted to all people of the opposite sex? Because we don't feel comfortable/close enough with them? Just to use a really basic example: What about all my close male friends from college/grad school? Why did I feel attracted to some but not others?

    Bella, Freud came up with some amazing things. He was, without a doubt, a revolutionary thinker. This does not mean that he was right about everything. In fact, some of his ideas are quite absurd. This complex is not taken very seriously now. Don't base too much of your concerns on it. Btw, I'm quite sure that most cases of parent/child incest are results of the parent approaching the child and the child being traumatized, not vice versa. This suggests that even if this complex exists it isn't a major driving force for the actual cases of incest.
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