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  1. #1 Is this pre-Olympic Paranoia? 
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    There was a story accompanied by a photo in today's newspaper about capital punishment in China. The story went on to say that around 8000 convicts are put to death every year, usually with a bullet to the head. It wasn't so much the story that interested me, it was the photo. The condemned was shown being led to the execution by a couple of guards but in the background was a scene right out of the Roman Coliseum. Thousands of onlookers, having a good time in a packed stadium attending a public execution. It reminded me of a Hollywood Western flick when everyone goes to the hanging.

    The picture struck a chord with me.... we are barbaric!! No huge revelation, I know. Just when I was thinking China was emerging from some dark tunnel I felt like they were slipping down a well. Then it hit me. With the Beijing Olympics only 2 years off, are the Chinese so into trying to project a squeaky clean image that it's open season on criminals? I'm no bleeding heart and criminals deserve to be removed from mainstream populace but public executions for family fun and enjoyment. Maybe they're more Westernized then we think.


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    Quote Originally Posted by zinjanthropos
    There was a story accompanied by a photo in today's newspaper about capital punishment in China. The story went on to say that around 8000 convicts are put to death every year, usually with a bullet to the head. It wasn't so much the story that interested me, it was the photo. The condemned was shown being led to the execution by a couple of guards but in the background was a scene right out of the Roman Coliseum. Thousands of onlookers, having a good time in a packed stadium attending a public execution. It reminded me of a Hollywood Western flick when everyone goes to the hanging.

    The picture struck a chord with me.... we are barbaric!! No huge revelation, I know. Just when I was thinking China was emerging from some dark tunnel I felt like they were slipping down a well. Then it hit me. With the Beijing Olympics only 2 years off, are the Chinese so into trying to project a squeaky clean image that it's open season on criminals? I'm no bleeding heart and criminals deserve to be removed from mainstream populace but public executions for family fun and enjoyment. Maybe they're more Westernized then we think.

    I agree that it is barbaric, but it is something that has been going on there for hundreds of years. It is not all that uncommon to see it happen with a crowd of onlookers. The French did the same thing with the guillatine up until the early 1900's. They too had spectators there to watch the event. As for them being more westernized than previously thought, maybe we are just more easternized than we thought with the hangings in the old west.


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    It's not really that barbaric; some executions are televised in the USA.
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    No. It is that barbaric.

    It is barbaric to execute any fellow human.

    It is barbaric to do so with minimal opportunity for appeal.

    It is barbaric to turn it into a spectacle.

    A purist might argue that it is barbaric to claim it is not barbaric.
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    the ignorant may claim that we are civilized.
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    In as much as many of us live in cities, then we are civilised.

    I find it interesting, however, that several of the 'evils' of the world arise precisely because we are city residents.

    (a) We evolved to function in small tribal groups and extended families.
    (i) In order to cope with the daily and hourly juxtaposition with unknown, and therfore potentially hostile, humans, we depersonalise our contacts.
    (ii) In seeking the sense of belonging once afforded by the tribe we indulge in indiscriminate patriotism (whether of country, race, of sports club) with all the excesses and poor judgement associated with these.

    (b) The efficiencies of scale afforded by cities are offset by the associated specilisation reuired of their inhabitants, a specialisation that diminshes the average citizens sense of contribution and self worth.
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