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    Not to long ago I read an article in Psychology magazine. It stated that goodlooking people usually have more succes in careers and social contacts then other people do. Now Iím interested in how physical appearences influence other people. Is it really true that handsome men and women have a bigger chance of becoming succesfull? And how does your appearence influence your dailly life? Why is it that people feel attracted to others by their looks?
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    it may be looks.... but with 'Good' looks generally comes alot of money..... to buy that "image" like e.g. people think that paris hilton and lady gaga are "hot" and "beautiful" but for my standards i see them as complete and total sluts who are ugly and that they have too much bloody money and mindLESS supporters...

    people SHOULDNT be attracted by people looks..... its also what on the INSIDE that counts.... i mean like sure u might not be the most "Good" looking or "Beautiful" person but what do we see as "Beautiful?"


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    I actually meant goodlooking more in a charismatic way then the sexapeal/paris hilton way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spaceman34
    people SHOULDNT be attracted by people looks..... its also what on the INSIDE that counts.... i mean like sure u might not be the most "Good" looking or "Beautiful" person but what do we see as "Beautiful?"
    I agree that it should be the inside that matters (most). However how people look does effect your feelings for them if you want it or not. It's a chemical process that you can't just ignore.[/quote]
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    This is just me, but I never really thought of Susan B. Anthony, Albert Einstein, Al Gore, Mother Teresa, and a whole lot of other successful people as supermodels. But maybe the world was blinded by their unanimous love of flyaway hair in the case of Einstein.... :wink:
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    I will admit that physical appearances matter. It has to do with biology and our natural instincts.

    I will give an example to start off. I was traveling with my roommate (we are both 25yo males) from the beach. We were in a truck carrying a trailer with jetskis. The traffic was getting a little tight but was still moving at a decent speed. It all comes to a sudden halt and my roommate had to slam on the brakes. A person behind us did not come to a sudden halt and rear ended out trailer. Instant reaction from my friend was anger. We pull over and get out. An attractive, similar-aged girl steps out of the vehicle and immediately both of our reactions change.

    Why? Because of biology. If the person who pulled out was male, we would naturally see it as an aggressive act. Because a girl stepped out, our natural instincts are to be charming to the female, so we change our tones and act in a calm attitude. Damage to the trailer was minimal and she was visually upset and sympathetic. We left without exchanging insurance information or asking for money.

    Would this same conclusion happened if it were a male? I doubt it.

    Sorry I get long-winded but it proves a point. Our attitudes changed when we found an attractive girl in front of us. I am getting to the successful part in a minute...

    The biology and natural instincts proof of this can be proven in the wild. Animals battle for mates that are stronger and without flaws. That type is more desirable for a mate because the offspring would theoretically be more desirable as well, continuing the species (or in our case, the family name).

    The natural instinct idea fails logically for humans because a smarter person should be more successful in the business world. Therefor the smarter (physical appearances need not apply) person should get the promotion, but this is not always the case. One part could be because our unconscious mind chooses otherwise, and that is just the nature of the beast. The other part is the more attractive person is more sociable and better suited in dealing with other people. Sociability is a key part of management, which is where promotions usually lie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artemis
    Not to long ago I read an article in Psychology magazine. It stated that goodlooking people usually have more succes in careers and social contacts then other people do. Just throw it all at me
    Looking at the CEO and other upper management of the firm I work for, I conclude that the theory is flawed. None of them is particularly good looking; they are short, fat, bald, and the men are even worse. However they do dress nicely and get a decent haircut.
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    goodlooking people usually have more succes in careers and social contacts then other people do.
    Maybe being happy & active causes them to be good looking. :wink:
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    I remember reading about a long-term study of Harvard Business School graduates and their success in life (measured by wealth or title, I don't remember). There was only one trait that correlated positively and was statisically valid: height.

    Biological psychology throws an interesting twist on things. I'm no expert in the subject but I recall the explanation given for the male to not want the female to have sex with anyone other than him. He didn't want to have to work to feed a child of someone else.

    Good physical qualities suggested a higher chance of remaining healthy and therefor able to continue to do perform their share of the work longer and thus became a strong influencing factor in mate selection.

    The subject maintains that we harbor these base feelings today even though the reasons from primitive times have long since passed.

    No doubt good looks played a role in there somewhere.
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    I believe there is quite a gain for taking advantage over emotional people, since they are the ones most likely to be persuaded. Emotion can't be controlled ones entered.

    Understanding it, is one thing, allowing it to take over is two. Therefore its no use telling what beauty actually is, since it follows no logic. Evolution controls the masses.

    But, understanding sociology can bring one to great heights within human boundaries.
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    I remember reading the article some time ago and I think as Artemis stated in his second post, they were referring to charismatic qualities (or traits) rather than sex appeal.

    Admittedly I haven't performed a great deal of research on the topic, however through simple observation I am inclined to agree. Many individuals in 'high-up' places tend not, necessarily, to be the most qualified but are often far more charismatic than their counter-parts.

    If anyone knows of more research relating to the topic I'd like to the source/publication.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Artemis
    Not to long ago I read an article in Psychology magazine. It stated that goodlooking people usually have more succes in careers and social contacts then other people do. Now Iím interested in how physical appearences influence other people. Is it really true that handsome men and women have a bigger chance of becoming succesfull? And how does your appearence influence your dailly life? Why is it that people feel attracted to others by their looks?
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    I think you just struck gold with the "how does your appearence influence your dailly life? " question. How it effects your daily life is how it will most likely effect success at work and at school especially. No doubt in my mind that if I were better looking and or taller I would be happier and more eager to succeed in life. All the money on this planet means nothing to me if I'm alone and miserable. It's why I'm 24 and live with my dad. I was depressed and lonely my first years of college and flunked out five years ago..only recently returning. And I'm not even a horrible looking guy..imagine the hell it would be for someone with a deformity or something?
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    People feel attraction to others based on appearance because it has been programmed into our minds by evolution and society. When people begin to see themselves in everyone, appearance doesn't matter. There's nothing like just looking into someone's eyes.
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    I've never understood the 'looking into their eyes' thing. Probably because I, for whatever reason, can't look into someone's eyes. Can anyone explain it's relevance?
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    Can you look into any other mammal's eyes? Like dogs? Same thing, just easier... too easy.

    Some cultures, direct eye contact is considered confrontational or simply rude like poking is rude. Maybe Jethro Tull could'ha said there's nothing like just poking whilst being poked.
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    In my Canadian city nobody looks in anyone else's eyes - it's like a taboo. When I got to Japan, I was feeing aggressive and confrontational when people were looking not only right at me, but in my eyes, too.
    I realized very quickly that the rules were different there.

    I like looking into the eyes of my friends and I have always really dug looking into the eyes of a good looking chick. Especially when they're - ooops, sorry, public forum here.
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    In some cultures people interpret expressions from reading facial features while in others from looking into the eyes, or at the area around the eyes. In this case, when you look away, you appear shady as others can not properly guess your intentions and so you are mistrusted. People become rude because they think you have something to hide and you become a problem. I donít know if it has anything to do with attractiveness, but it sure has something to do with repulsiveness.
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    I found an article on the net that seems to give the same information as the one in psycholgy magazine (that I can't find anymore) I'll put it here for the people that are interested.

    I'm specifically interested in the last part of the article.

    http://www.jyi.org/volumes/volume6/i...ures/feng.html
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    Your point is correct. I have encountered this in a number of sources of literature. Quite simply, good looking people are more successful in their work. They get paid more, praised more, promoted more etc. Men who are taller get treated likewise. Women who are sexy, ditto. Older women who once were sexy but are now more often described as 'handsome' also are more successful than less handsome older women.

    The interesting thing is that this does not just apply across sexes. A man who is considering promoting one of a choice of several other men will, all else being equal, promote the better looking guy, even when the boss is totally heterosexual. Good looks seem to engender approval, even when sexual attraction is not a factor.

    This has nothing to do with fairness. It is, of course, just one factor in determining success. This means that there are lots of exceptions, since not so good looking people who simply are competent at their jobs can get promoted. Or, more often in my experience, the person who is best at 'sucking up' to the boss gets promoted.
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    Your point is correct. I have encountered this in a number of sources of literature. Quite simply, good looking people are more successful in their work. They get paid more, praised more, promoted more etc. Men who are taller get treated likewise. Women who are sexy, ditto. Older women who once were sexy but are now more often described as 'handsome' also are more successful than less handsome older women.

    The interesting thing is that this does not just apply across sexes. A man who is considering promoting one of a choice of several other men will, all else being equal, promote the better looking guy, even when the boss is totally heterosexual. Good looks seem to engender approval, even when sexual attraction is not a factor.

    This has nothing to do with fairness. It is, of course, just one factor in determining success. This means that there are lots of exceptions, since not so good looking people who simply are competent at their jobs can get promoted. Or, more often in my experience, the person who is best at 'sucking up' to the boss gets promoted.
    I can't imagine why this would seem newsworthy. Of course looks are a prime motivator for people, for we are all physically focused. It is just the way of the natural human nature - whatever 'I' deem as being physically pleasing, will influence 'my' moods and actions every time. 'I' will always pick the best looking lettuce or car or 'friend', which to my reasoning of the moment, will better serve my needs, which in turn is all about my vanity.

    As magnanimous as we might like to view ourselves, my choices will almost inevitably boil down to selfishness - what is going to work best for 'me'. It's as simple as that.
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