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  1. #1 stress and knowledge 
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    i do not know why but it seems to be the more i know/ the more i think i know, the more i get stressed and panic and ultimately give up on other aspects of my life

    does anyone think depression is related to knowledge? or is knowledge just indirectly affecting depression through things like bullying?


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    Part of being clever is learning new stuff, which you can never stop doing. It is also more than just facts of course, so learning the why and how can really free you.


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    i agree when u learn the how and the why it feels good but do you not feel the stress before reaching the conclusion??
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    Nah, I feel excitement. I love learning how we as humans and the universe works.
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    Well, since my science teachers in high school never focused on evolution, it came as a great shock to me to discover what I have on my own. And also, the more I read about religion the less inclined I am to believe in it...which saddens me sometimes..I'm always searching for meaning in life and finding little...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcdae
    i do not know why but it seems to be the more i know/ the more i think i know, the more i get stressed and panic and ultimately give up on other aspects of my life

    does anyone think depression is related to knowledge? or is knowledge just indirectly affecting depression through things like bullying?
    Im kind of the opposite, if im not reading something or keeping my mind active i tend to get more stressed and generally lazy, but its easy for me to over do it and i cant look at a book, then theres nothing like a few beers to give your head a well deserved break. Playstation helps unwind 2 :wink:

    If your panicing and depressed try to take it easy for a while and stay away from conspiracy theorys!!
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    lol ill try and keep away from them xD thanks
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    The more you learn, the more u want to know, the more you know, the more questions appear, till you can't find answers to every question you fall into depression. Best is not to know hah!
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    Evolution theories seem to focus on physical development. I reckon humans have superseded that and our evolution is primarily now consciousness.

    Note - There is much debate still in the scientific community as to what extent state of mind affects body and state of body affects mind. Quantum physics is proving that there is a lot we still don't know about 'mind over matter' Therefore conscious development should be just as important as physical development, if not more so.

    And what is consciousness? In a nut-shell it's awareness. You cannot know anything or be conscious of or perceive anything until you are aware that 'something' exists.

    Awareness comes in different ways.

    Knowledge usually comes in bits and pieces, which gradually compliment and reveal a fuller picture over time. This process of learning is used in schools, where each piece of knowledge forms a preliminary to the next piece of knowledge which connects but is more complex. It also comes through daily experience, trial and errors, living and learning.
    Then there are those sudden enlightening AHA moments when everything falls suddenly into place, which usually comes after several connecting and relevant pieces of information have been absorbed.

    Think of each piece of learning & knowledge you gain as a jig-saw piece, parts which fit together to reveal the bigger picture.
    Sometimes jigsaws can be frustrating when you can't figure out where the pieces fit or what part of the picture it belongs to etc. But you KNOW it fits somewhere.

    Now imagine doing a huge zillion piece Jigsaw puzzle. The problem is, where usually you have the box lid with the picture on to help you, in life there is no picture. YOU make the picture depending on what pieces you fit into the jigsaw puzzle. (Mmmm...now I can feel an idea for a story plot developing here!).......that's exactly what life and learning about everything is like.

    Learning isn't meant to be easy. Evolution can be a painful difficult process. Evolution requires constant re-evolving or re-birth.
    Every new bit of knowledge you learn is like a seed. It gets planted in your brain. Sometimes you know what it is, what it's for and what uses it has, and you can use it straight away and sometimes you don't, and it has to sit there and wait for another piece of knowledge to trigger it's germination, (thank God humans have the faculty of memory!) where it grows silently until the time is right whereby it will suddenly pop out a shoot, usually in the form of those AHA moments, when parts of the jig-saw picture begins to get revealed.
    (I'm using analogies here of course, but the process is just the same)
    All sudden ideas and thoughts which pop into our minds and appear new are in fact past seed which have now sprouted.

    Now any farmer knows that from a handful of 100 seeds you'll be lucky if half of those make shoots. So if a farmer wants a field full of Barley, he better make sure he fills any gaps by scattering more seeds per square foot than is required.

    If humans want to evolve, then we better make sure we make sponges of our brains and soak up as much useful information and knowledge as possible in order to increase and expand our consciousness and become more aware!

    Now what's the point in all this awareness? What's the real use of it all?
    The crux of it all is that without knowing about something, it is impossible to be able to control that something and put it to good use, or appreciate it.
    The real danger is that without knowing that something and being able to control and manipulate that something there is a very real and perilous possibility that that something could know all about us and be able to control us unwittingly!!!
    For example -
    Externally we have bacteria, germs and virus's, proving a real threat to mankind as a species
    Internally we have human behaviour proving a real threat to mankind as a species.
    And which is the easiest to know?????
    I think we better get to know our selves fast eh?

    Anyway..........If you are going to learn anything which makes a real difference to your life, then you had better get used to re-birth and the frustrating and stressful period at the pupae stage, where it will feel like you are totally grovelling blindly in the dark!
    And time will teach you that these phases are only temporary and an intermediary to those wonderful AHA moments, where suddenly the light blinds you and the realization startles you and then you are re-born into a different and better person armed with that new knowledge and all it's uses etc

    But I think it's most important to learn to discriminate as early as possible what you learn. Unfortunately mankind has made an awful lot of slurry in his wake and often the useful stuff is buried deep within, so make sure you tailor your self a damn good filter, so you can identify quickly what's crap and what's not, or you could risk being drowned in rabble juice and find your self staring vacantly at day-time TV and dribbling....

    Oh and essential to learning, to over-ride those frustrating depressing stressful annoying times is the good old SOH!

    Life should be fun and so should learning about it!




    Quote Originally Posted by gottspieler
    ..I'm always searching for meaning in life and finding little...
    Gottspeiler......perhaps humans are meant to create meaning???

    Maybe that's why when you look for it you find little?

    Maybe you not looking in the right places?

    Maybe try looking inside instead of outside



    Oh and another thing too about learning.............which I learned a little while back....

    School curriculum's, college & university courses and anything you learn in an establishment has been thoroughly planned by experts so that each phase of the course leads onto the next as steps to learning.
    It's very difficult and frustrating to go from A to E, without going through and understanding B,C & D.

    And the trouble with self-taught, is that it hasn't passed through that rigorous process and tends to be haphazard, sporadic and spontaneous etc. So sometimes you will find your self trying to absorb complex stuff without going through the preliminaries which would enable you to understand it better.

    So self-taught can often be frustrating, be aware of that, and try not to get frustrated, or depressed, I mean come on guys! Depressed!!???
    Knowledge should make you wanna skip down the street and glow in awe and wonder at the amazing universe around us!!
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