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    I've been wondering as to what the quickest and most efficient way in which one could achieve the ability to read up to 500 words per minute; and to comprehend all information viewed - or read upon for this purpose. Although I have achieved some success, changes of which have occurred are only temporary and don't always appear to work. Ideas and facts are welcome (Individual theories, and such are also welcome). However, I've already been trying customized subliminal messages, binaural beats and hypnosis; the placebo effect was the most effective of them all, and had even gave me total recall lasting over a 12 hour period. Despite this however, the effects didn't carry on from the next day, and when I began thinking critical of the subliminals, they were no longer as effective as they initially were; I presume this is consequent to critical thinking, any way in which I could bypass this most efficiently is also welcome. Other techniques, although are pertaining to the techniques I've tried, of which are also welcome are; self-hypnosis/affirmiation, binaural beats and customized subliminal messages (I might be writting them wrong; the most efficient way to write messages).

    Also, my apologies if this seems... odd in anyway, I would rather be able to acquire knowledge quicker, and to be able to recall it more easily as opposed to referencing it continiously in order for it to become second nature.

    Any help is greatly appreciated!


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    Isn't there some sort of technique that when you read a long passage or something, you only read down the middle of the passage, and yet your eyes actually take in the side information too? So your peripheral vision notes the keywords, and this significantly speeds up your reading speed. At least, that's what I read in a test prep book, and it was very effective actually, especially on those stupid SATs...


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    Quote Originally Posted by tritai
    Isn't there some sort of technique that when you read a long passage or something, you only read down the middle of the passage, and yet your eyes actually take in the side information too? So your peripheral vision notes the keywords, and this significantly speeds up your reading speed. At least, that's what I read in a test prep book, and it was very effective actually, especially on those stupid SATs...
    That seems interesting, could you elaborate more on this technique? Thanks.

    Personally, I believe for everything we see, even at the corner of our eyes; that of which we're not fully conscious of, is still acted upon subconsciously. In other words, in my opinion, our senses intercept every touch, taste, sound and sight, and yet only a small portion is utilized consciously. There are various reasons as to why, and one of which is due to those of who are capable of total recall; with total recall, one can scan a page within a mere second, and can recall 90% of information depending on the integrity of their Eidetic abilities. Therefore, it appears to be the result of memory and perception as opposed to the ways in which our senses intercept data - in my opinion.

    Also, thanks for replying; I very much appreciate your thoughts, and further ideas, thoughts or references (Based on discoveries, or other individuals thoughts) is welcome.
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    Perhaps this link will go along with how I use peripheral vision to read. If it is unhelpful, please let me know, and i will look for a better source.

    http://www.essortment.com/all/speedreadingte_rjpv.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by tritai
    Perhaps this link will go along with how I use peripheral vision to read. If it is unhelpful, please let me know, and i will look for a better source.

    http://www.essortment.com/all/speedreadingte_rjpv.htm
    Thanks buddy! That was very informative, and has provided me with an effective technique I will begin to use for reading!

    I presume the reason for reading faster, or skimming, is to prevent our critical thought from interfering with the information; although this is positive for ideas, discussions and other areas correlated to individual opinions or thoughts, this can be an issue - I presume-so - with standard reading (Reading stories, new words or technical jargon). Critical thinking can also obstruct memory; the ability for oneself to recall information accurately. Essentially, I presume it's similar to watching a video or reading a book with auditory subtitles; regardless as to whether you're listening or reading, the information will bypass your analytical barrier one way or the other, presumably to become preconscious; unaware of, but easily and accurately retrieved consciously.

    The techniques I desire to achieve, are to read a page in moments (A page comprised of 1000 - 2000 words), and to consist of 90% recall. Although it's unlikely that I would simutanously experience the comprehension consciously as I skim a page in short intervals due to the result of total recall - if I did have this ability, then I presume it would all be dependent upon how I interpret the information from memory. Essentially, although this would be negative for comprehending pages or books, it would be perfect for reading 100+ words per second, and also for the latter; to recall the information by memory accurately and easily without the requirement for external referencing. (Usually, if I read a wiki article, I would require a second or third-time reference in order to accurately sustain the knowledge interpreted; this would be perfect for learning entire subjects within very short periods of time (*As opposed to an average quantity of time))

    Despite this, I greatly appreciate your help; I couldn't thank you anymore - I thank you x 9000000000

    Any ideas, thoughts, findings, studies, etc - relevances, are welcome!
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    Sorry to break the bad news, but I wouldn't recommend what tritai says about peripheral vision. Men have a lot less wide view peripheral vision, women have 45 degrees focus from the centre of directional observation. Men however have 'tunnel' centre of observation and an angle of sight a lot less that females. Ever wonder why when shopping with your partner the woman is always able to find something on the shelf? And why a guy has to scan row by row when she's constantly shouting THERE!

    Or how about when eyeing up a man? Women always seem to be looking away from you, but they look straight in one direction not at you but still at at most a 45 degree angle to you so they are looking. This is why men are often caught out looking at clevage, they cannot focus without direct observation, whereas a woman can look at his crotch for hours if they talk looking for the slightest twitch...

    If you disagree on this, you'll find plenty of websites, articles, books and journals proving this. Yet again another female advantage...
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    Ever wonder why when shopping with your partner the woman is always able to find something on the shelf? And why a guy has to scan row by row when she's constantly shouting THERE!

    Or how about when eyeing up a man? Women always seem to be looking away from you, but they look straight in one direction not at you but still at at most a 45 degree angle to you so they are looking. This is why men are often caught out looking at clevage, they cannot focus without direct observation, whereas a woman can look at his crotch for hours if they talk looking for the slightest twitch...
    Please try not to take these examples to heart. I have reason to believe that Bad Wolf was dropped a few times on the head as a kid, and he also used to gnaw on the lead-paint bars on his crib.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bad Wolf
    Sorry to break the bad news, but I wouldn't recommend what tritai says about peripheral vision. Men have a lot less wide view peripheral vision, women have 45 degrees focus from the centre of directional observation. Men however have 'tunnel' centre of observation and an angle of sight a lot less that females. Ever wonder why when shopping with your partner the woman is always able to find something on the shelf? And why a guy has to scan row by row when she's constantly shouting THERE!

    Or how about when eyeing up a man? Women always seem to be looking away from you, but they look straight in one direction not at you but still at at most a 45 degree angle to you so they are looking. This is why men are often caught out looking at clevage, they cannot focus without direct observation, whereas a woman can look at his crotch for hours if they talk looking for the slightest twitch...

    If you disagree on this, you'll find plenty of websites, articles, books and journals proving this. Yet again another female advantage...

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    Seriously, now. There is some truth to that... Women Rock. 8)

    But to answer your question, blue space, there's really a simple technique, called practice.
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    There's another technique, its called wait until you can download information to your brain =P.

    Or, remember what you already know, somehow :?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bad Wolf
    There's another technique, its called wait until you can download information to your brain =P.

    Or, remember what you already know, somehow :?
    I agree with you on male peripheral vision; females are also known to comprise of superior multi-tasking to males, but are lacking in focus. However, our brains download the information within an instant, it's accessing it consciously, and without the effects of repression - is what I'm searching for. To clarify, I know our brains can comprehend great complexity, and can remember something in its initial form, or full clarity; consider dreams as an example, in dreams I commonly understand Math of great complexity, whereas when conscious during the present, I fail to even understand basic Math; the same occurs when past memories merge wiht the present in dreams; the past is as it was initially. The part I'm searching for utilizing whilst conscious, and not unconscious, is my subconscious (To clarify, and although there are many misinterpretations of a 'subconscious', I refer to this as the parts active whilst we're unconscious, during our wakeful perception; the autonomous cognition active whilst we're conscious of our environment); my internal cognition whilst experiencing during my wakeful perception.

    I have had some success with hypnosis and subliminal messaging - although, I'm uncertain as to how I should be writting subliminals; I'm not entirely sure as to how I written the ones that were successful for inducing total recall - I've lost the messages I had initially set.

    Anyway, your response is greatly appreciated!
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    No need to speed read...if you do I guarantee you won't remember even half of what you've read...let the knowledge soak in...sure, you can speed read a romance novel or harry potter but when it comes to the important stuff..well, important to me.. (biology, philosphy, history) you need to devote much time to learning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gottspieler
    No need to speed read...if you do I guarantee you won't remember even half of what you've read...let the knowledge soak in...sure, you can speed read a romance novel or harry potter but when it comes to the important stuff..well, important to me.. (biology, philosphy, history) you need to devote much time to learning.
    I understand the principle of learning, but I'm wanting to read pages within a mere moment or few seconds, and although I may not be able to comprehend the information during that time, I would rather be able to comprehend it by means of accurate memory (Accessed consciously).
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    Do you know how to meditate?

    You are more receptive in a state of meditation. I don't know any studies on the subject of learning and meditation, but I find myself in dream-like states sometimes where I can completely visualize something or someone down to the last detail. I wish I could draw. It might just be me.

    Try practicing some breathing techniques and stretch a little, calm yourself down and relax as much as possible and test it. Fealing positive also opens you to new ideas. Upbeat classical music might help, the colors blue and purple may also help. Some reflexology maybe, massage the tips of your toes and fingers. When you study make sure your sitting up straight with your feet flat on the floor, your hands as relaxed as they can be and your breathing slow and deep.

    Excersizing concentration and memory in many ways might help.

    For example, draw a card in the morning, put it on top of the deck and remember it at the end of the day, make sure you are right. Once you can remember one try two, then three etc etc. Remember them in order and then move on. This might help.

    Or you can play russian rulette with yourself. Get three styrofoam cups, put a piece of candy or something underneath one, mix them up before you leave, and try to remember which cup the candy is under. If you get it right you can eat the candy, YAY! isn't remembering sweet!

    i don't know, just making this stuff up if you couldn't tell, good luck and please let us know what you find to work
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    Marcus is right. Anything that builds your memory effienciently is beneficial. Just wishing that you had a photographic memory doesn't help. What I do sometimes, is that while I'm in the car, I test myself to see if I can remember someone's license plate number after just glancing it. At first I really did bad, but now, I've actually improved a lot.

    And another thing for the speed reading, is learn to ignore little words, like the basic articles and conjunctions. Reading those takes up "valuable" time, and it also becomes distracting when you're trying to really put on some speed. After all, unless there's some kind of comparison going on in the text, your eyes will automatically go to the longer and more necessary words. I think that's why a lot of times, when you ask someone to read out loud something, they'll mess up in the simplest places, such as skipping over a little word like "a" or something. His/her eyes want to skip ahead to the larger, more apealing word, and it's in this way the smaller words are utterly disregarded.

    Poor things.
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    Ah, now I understand - relaxation is the principle for accessing memory without conscious assessments interfering (e.g. when trying to remember something, one is unable to do so due to their conscious assessment of information). However, if one relaxes and memorizes, they may find that of what they're searching for in an instant or few moment; the same appears to occur if one sets a priority for memorizing (e.g. I want to remember this; repeated x amount of times, and then after a given amount of time - an hour or longer, the memory required for the conscious mind will appear in an instant (Although, I'll admit -- I'm uncertain as to whether this principle is universal; it seems to work for me, although I'm oftenly distracted by something else that prevents me from memorizing that of what was desired for memorizing)). I also agree that relaxation is great for reading or learning; to become scholaric of something; I remember lying on my bed over a year ago, learning the requirements for a unit of ICT in school; I had soaked up pages in less than five minutes and was also able to utilize the knowledge months later.

    Thanks for the suggestions - I greatly appreciate all suggestions and support from everyone of this forum! You're all great people, and I greatly appreciate all information and suggestions posted, thanks!
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    Indeed, I could learn from my own words too. Whenever I try to play a song I've written, stage fright makes me tense and struggle to remember, but when I relax the song comes naturally. It makes sense especially considering the fact that when I write my songs, like most musicians, I am alone and in my own world and most relaxed. Playing for others is a different world entirely, a different mindset, one the song is not a part of, until it is made so.

    Mindsets have a lot to do with it. The mindset you are in when you learn something, is the mindset to have in order to recall it easiest.

    I'm no expert on neurophysiology but I think this is how it works: Hormones are drugs, and different mindsets are really just different combination of hormones. The more relaxed you are, the less hormones are pumping.

    So you want to be in the mindset when you learn, that you will be in when you use it.

    for example
    If you are practicing boxing, you want to have the mindset that you are in a fight, even if you are just shadow boxing, or even if you are just sitting in a chair, eyes closed, prepping for a fight in your mind, like some of the greatest boxers where known to do.

    it is kind of like acting, you want to practice a line in a surtain mindset, that way you can obtain that mindset and remember the line when the time comes.

    I will imagine I am playing for people when I practice from now on

    there is a Taoist saying that seems worth remembering. It might be from the Art of War, but I forgot(ha!) I will paraphrase

    "When there is an enemy, act as though there is not; when there is no enemy, act as though there is"


    I think concepts like "imagine the audience naked" combat stage fright and help you relax simply by over-stimulating the imagination, not leaving any room self doubt, which probably comes from the same area of the brain.

    This might not be exactly what you are asking about, but I think it is all related and might help better understand it.
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    Speedreading is actually memory training,

    Association, visualisation, and interaction.

    For example, simply repeating yourself is not only counter-effective but also diminishes your ability for improving your memory.

    If you want to improve your visualisation, learn more about Art.

    If you want to improve association, learn more about Mathematics.

    If you want to improve interaction, learn more about History.

    There are many more ways for improving them, anything goes really.

    From my last speedreading session i was able to hit the ~900 wpm average with 55/65% understanding.

    To see text as an image was one of the best way to increase my speed personally.
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    I actually just saw an article relating to speed reading and photographic memory. It claims that it is possible to read 25,000 words per minute. You can check it out here.


    http://www.squidoo.com/how_speed_read
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    Hi, I just want to say that I do speed read (about 2000 words per minute, with about 80% recall), the trick for me is not to look at the center of the page, I actually look at every single word, but I don't read the words, I see them as images, each combination of letters being an image with a specific meaning. I learned it this way because I am a tad bit dyslexic, and taking apart words was almost impossible for me. I actually didn't learn how to read until the third grade.
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    I'm learning how to speed now and there is actually a very simple technique that can be practiced.

    It's all about broadening your visual field, and the amount of words you can read at one time.

    Begin by looking between words, to read both at once.

    for example in the above statement you would read

    Begin-by looking-between words-to read-both at-once.


    I wouldn't recommend doing it whenever you read, since it could take some time training yourself before you can do it fluently, but set some time aside where you can practice speed reading.

    Eventually you will move onto reading 3 words at a time, and then 4 etc, but it really is only dependant on your field of view and how long(phisically) the words you are trying to read are. For example in a string of short words it is easier to read more words at once, then in a string of long words.

    When the big boy comes to the pool and jumps in, she makes fun of him.

    Here it's easier to read 3 or 4 words at a time(by looking at the space in the center of them and reading them as a whole idea and not 3 or 4 smaller ideas)

    It's not about learning ANYTHING else. Simply read more, this will help you read faster anyway. And practice this technique. It's purely visual, just like how you comprehend one word that you see all the time, you don't need to sound out each letter any more, because it's habituated.

    Learning is not a mysterious thing, just set your mind to it and anyone can do just about anything.

    You don't need to study art, history or math. Although I do wonder if learning to do simple arithmetic quickly will help with reading faster, speed reading is not merely reading faster, it is reading more at once. Math is just another language.

    People who can hyper-scan are the ultimate end, they read a whole line or more at once. They are those who can just run their finger down a piece of paper and have been done reading it.

    They didn't start that good, and you shouldn't even think about that when just starting to practice.

    Just read more and try to read multiple words as one.
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    Why don;t you try the program called word smart?
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    Shun phonics. Don't let voice mutter in the path from printed word to meaning.

    If you're reading fluently, you won't bother digesting how a new word might sound. It's just a unique shape, that means something. You may then have some trouble relating in conversation what Princess Ekaterina Alexandrovna Shcherbatskaya said to the protagonist Anna Arkadyevna Karenina, since you've never sounded out those familiar names.

    I tend to scan ascenders and descenders - the vertical projections of type. A pair of "d"s might mis-scan as a pair of "t"s if I'm expecting those, then I just assume the x-height letters and move on, so I get the word all wrong.

    There's always some trade off between speed and accuracy.
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    I do naturally speed reading, and sometimes bought attention to it, and i don't vocalize text, unless its "unfamiliar" ,contains new words etc.

    then i just whoomp the text and stop think for sec or two logical consequences, i do sort of Checksum of what i did read, if it's in logical disagreement i re-read due the fact speed is partly gained due loss in accuracy.

    Also, good tip to improve, speed reading is, read few pages first, to be familiar with what topic it is, so sacrificed accuracy can be compensated with imagination&familiarity with words :D
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    Another technique, is to take advantage of good writing. Why waste effort gleaning info from disordered paragraphs and smokescreens of useless verbiage? Good writing caters to speed.
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    It would help to turn the western alphabet into pictographs like the Chinese system of writing to take advantage of speed reading. The Arabic alphabet is not suitable for speed-reading. Even the computer has to process data from top to bottom; pixel by pixel, so how human can scan and make sense of text by just glancing and focusing on the center. It would drive me mad in a while. I would have to see it work to believe it can be efficient, even for some people. It should be easy to test people who claim that they can speed-read by way of visually scanning a page and remembering it while being able retrieve its contents, as the contents are written and intended to be read and understood. Some people have excellent visual memory, so they may partially be right.
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    Personally, I think you can't really speed up the learning process to a great extent. This is because learning a language is more of a process of taking time and letting things sink. What you are doing right now is great though and is probably one of the best ways to approach this LangLearner I'm learning Languages with this tool, and it's very helpful.
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