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  1. #1 Has tv made us a nation of watchers? 
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    Its made us not a nation of watchers but a world of ignorant idiots who believe what any shite the TV says as much as any Muslim or Christian believes any shite the Bible(s) says.

    Thats not good, by any stretch of the imagination. Its the truth...


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    TV has made America a nation of incompetent fools and lethargic couch potatoes who get their daily zing from the morning cup of coffee and the juicy bits of gossip that are distributed across the innumerable TV channels available. Granted, the news and weather reports are very important, but when you consider the rest of the television content, you will find that people are really addicted to garbage. I mean, do we REALLY need to watch a tv channel about Paris hilton's new BFF, and how girls are cussing and clawing at each other just to be recognized as Hilton's new best friend?

    To put it in perspective, here are some statistics for TV-viewers:


    *Number of hours per day that TV is on in an average U.S. home: 6 hours, 47 minutes

    *Percentage of Americans that regularly watch television while eating dinner: 66

    *Number of hours of TV watched annually by Americans: 250 billion

    *Value of that time assuming an average wage of S5/hour: S1.25 trillion

    * Percentage of Americans who say they watch too much TV: 49

    *Number of minutes per week that the average child watches television: 1,680

    *Percentage of day care centers that use TV during a typical day: 70

    *Percentage of 4-6 year-olds who, when asked to choose between watching TV
    and spending time with their fathers, preferred television: 54

    *And, hours per year the average American youth spends in school: 900 hours, as opposed to hours per year the average American youth watches television: 1500

    This is the link I found: http://www.csun.edu/science/health/docs/tv&health.html

    TV - Totally Vapid :?

    Me: I'm not being a hypocrite by the way, because our family does not have cable, and we rarely watch any DVDs. Even then, we have no american channels. Only Indian ones from Dish Network.....all of which remain unwatched, except for the news which my dad watches occassionally at 6:30 in the morning.

    Once again, I'M NOT BEING A HHYPOCRITE!
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    *Number of hours per day that TV is on in an average U.S. home: 6 hours, 47 minutes
    Holy sweet zombie Jesus. I haven't watched TV in over 4 months!

    *Percentage of Americans that regularly watch television while eating dinner: 66
    Thats unacceptable. What ever happened to listening to the family and eating around a civilized table? To hear and joke about each others days? To talk and learn about each other like we used to be decades and centuries ago?

    *Number of hours of TV watched annually by Americans: 250 billion
    Thats sick. Imagine how long it took Einstein to create General relativity and special relativity, or for Maxwell to complete the theory of electromagnetism, or for Newton to complete his laws of motion. Or for Stephen Hawking to revolutionize the nature of black holes. If every person was smart and put effort into thought and science instead of sat in front of some box, we'd all probably be exploring some far off galaxy by now...

    *Value of that time assuming an average wage of S5/hour: S1.25 trillion
    Now someone tell me TV isn't the 'educational' system for the world...

    * Percentage of Americans who say they watch too much TV: 49
    At least some aren't all ignorant, yet continue to watch it because its a mind control device which people come addicted to. You know, the whole beta/alpha brain wave thing.


    Once again, I'M NOT BEING A HHYPOCRITE!
    I know. The only truthful TV I have watched (and that is not from live or on TV) is: Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles. And thats only because its a fantastic series that does little brainwashing...
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    Thats sick. Imagine how long it took Einstein to create General relativity and special relativity, or for Maxwell to complete the theory of electromagnetism, or for Newton to complete his laws of motion. Or for Stephen Hawking to revolutionize the nature of black holes. If every person was smart and put effort into thought and science instead of sat in front of some box, we'd all probably be exploring some far off galaxy by now...
    I honestly think that if we didn't have TV, we could've solved the problem of world hunger by now.
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    And that yes. And world poverty. Then again we could all do that overnight if... well just look at my signature..
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    Can't right now, watching TV.
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    Can't right now, watching TV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drowsy turtle
    Can't right now, watching TV.
    Oh how I love the British sense of humour...
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    TV?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zafer93
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    It's not TV itself that can have negative effects on society, it's more so what gets televised.
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    TV doesn't make you dumber, not using your brain does. Most people when they watch TV they zone out, they are not analyzing and comparing things, they are relaxing and being entertained.

    There is nothing wrong with relaxing, in fact to be constantly analyzing will only prevent you from organizing the information, you must relax your mind every now and then and allow it to replenish itself, just like your muscles.

    You need to learn every day or else your brain will start to rot. TV is probably what these people fall into as a habit because their brain is already rotting.

    I get anxious when I watch TV, so now when I'm hanging out with friends and family, if we are watching a movie or a show or something, I try to analyze things, because I am into writing, and movies are the very basics of writing. I ask myself "how would I describe this scene verbally" so I can learn how to write more vividly.

    MOST people zone out when they watch TV, but that doesn't mean everyone does.

    and again, TV doesn't make you stupid, people are already stupid, they just choose to watch TV which doesn't make them any smarter UNLESS they choose to learn whatever there is to learn.

    If nothing else you can always learn about yourself, asking yourself what you would do in a similar situation. You can be creative and imagine possible endings, or alternative scenes.


    ALSO: what is on TV doesn't shape those watching it ANYMORE than those watching it shape what is on TV. If you don't like what is on, you change the channel, put in a movie, or find something else to do. It is safe to assume that some people subject themselves to sub-par episodes of a series that they like, but people also eventually stop liking a series when it no longer provides what they want.

    The problem with great shows is that they start with high expectations, and it is hard to keep up with great material. The exception is in comedy, because something can be extremely funny, but not really be creative at all, in fact it can be, and usually is, quite stupid if not completely ignorant. And thus comedy is probably the most popular genre of all time, second would probably be action... You can probably rate genres from most to least popular based on how stupid to intelligent they are.

    This is not a reflection of what TV has done to the public, it is a reflection of what the public already is and wants to see.
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    ALSO: what is on TV doesn't shape those watching it ANYMORE than those watching it shape what is on TV. If you don't like what is on, you change the channel, put in a movie, or find something else to do. It is safe to assume that some people subject themselves to sub-par episodes of a series that they like, but people also eventually stop liking a series when it no longer provides what they want.
    Subjective stupidity. What a wonderful world.

    You need to learn every day or else your brain will start to rot. TV is probably what these people fall into as a habit because their brain is already rotting.
    Of course. Why wait for old age to make you a vegetable?
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    TV brings the world to our doorstep. And it is the most powerful communication tool that was ever invented. That is why companies pay alot of money to advertise in prime time in order to influence ppl to buy their products. It is just human nature to be lazy, to sit in front of the TV (since he doesn't need to get out to know what is outside). Now it is the television networks that feed 'nonsense' to the average man watching tv. A person wants to know what is outside the world, he only sees war, violence, greed etc. The media needs to change. Instead of forcing the average couch potato to change his ways and avoid TV's bad influence, we need to change what the media feeds to the masses of couch potatoes.
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    Clever people see what you are saying newnothing and use TV as a powerful tool of propoganda, knowing that other clever, yet lazy people will do the same naturally by going outside. But they don't, so the clever TV people use TV and abuse the clever ordinary persons laziness to make them stupid.

    And what do you know, the 50 year plan has worked without a hitch. TV is shite no matter what is peddled on it. Just get out and see the real world. Or the Internet, at least with that you can decide what is shit and decide for youself rather than being told. Also using that you can talk with your friends and share philospohies like we are, when TV would not allow us to...

    The only TV shows I have ever liked are: Star Trek, Stargate SG-1, Becker, The Sarah Connor Chronicles and Doctor Who.

    Becker in fact, is brilliant.
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    The media needs to change. Instead of forcing the average couch potato to change his ways and avoid TV's bad influence, we need to change what the media feeds to the masses of couch potatoes.
    I whole-heartedly agree. Contemporary media is brutal, vulgar, obsessed with materialism, and of course, on the whole, consumed by monetary values. But hey, why waste time with wholesome entertainment that a whole family can watch and enjoy once in a while, when instead, you can show people ripping each other's clothes off and procreating like it was their last day on earth?
    WHERE'S THE FUN IN THAT, I ASK YOU? WHO WANTS TO SEE CHILDREN RUNNING IN A SUNLIT FIELD? WHO WANTS TO SEE A HARDWORKING MAN FINALLY REAP WHAT HE SOWS? WHO WANTS TO SEE GOOD OVERCOME EVIL, AND PURITY OVERPOWER THE TAINTS OF SIN?

    NO ONE DOES! BECAUSE WE'RE ALL TWISTED AND EVIL AND LOATHSOME CREATURES!

    And now that I have worked off my potential fury into this message, I will sincerely apologize for my above words when I called the human race "twisted, evil, and loathsome". After all, I'm sure not ALL of you are miserable cretins...but please: correct me if I'm wrong.
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    no... that sounds about right
    :x :x

    We need more street performers and to make public access more public.

    Why even discuss changing TV when we have the internet? Pretty soon TV and the internet will not be different. Youtube is the new public access, we can do whatever we want with it.

    Instead of trying to change TV(best-o-luck!) why not try to put quality stuff on youtube?
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    Instead of trying to change TV(best-o-luck!) why not try to put quality stuff on youtube?
    Youtube?!? Ha. That place has more toxic sludge than New Jersey!
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    Ever wonder why we are attracted by what is on TV, movie, the Internet or even YouTube?

    I think it is a way for us to escape the life we're living now. Take going to the movies for an example. For the next hour and a half we're mesmerized by the plot in the movie, its story whether it is action, mystery, love or horror. We find ourselves as if we're in it, or even hope that we're in it, wondering how great it would be if life is like that. (great to be James Bond, great car, great women, great body, luxury lifestyle, and of course a license to kill :P)
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    Yes, living vicariously has its perks. But sometimes it seems like we forget reality in our haste to live glamorously.
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    trit: it is not all sludge, maybe you've seen more than I have, but I usually just watch useful stuff, and try to learn. I'm not easily entertained I guess but I'm pretty sure that's why we are all here right?

    youtube is a great resource, it is world-wide-public access, so is television, it all depends on your mindset, why your using them. Maybe you are not using them for what they are worth, but just as you say, to escape, but you CAN choose to use them for different reasons.

    youtube is full of crap, like you said, but there is also a search engine and a rating system so you can pan the dry crap from the prim-o-dank-nuggets and find what you are looking for

    for example. I'm writing a story where music plays a big roll, I don't listen to music, but I want to appeal to the generalized opinion about different genres, so I search youtube "jazz" or "metal" and I listen to the top 10 most popular results and I have a pretty good understanding of what most people like when they think of that type of music.

    It is useful, maybe not for you but probably just not in the way you use it

    If you don't like whats on youtube, the wonderfull thing about it is that you can put whatever you do like up

    I hate computers and the internet and all that because of the alienation factor: the lack of empathy required to communicate. It turns us into robots, but just as you tube not being useful, it is not the tool that matters, it is how we use it.

    I think the rejection of technology, has more to do with the individual's need to distance themselves from it, and has little or no bearing on the technology itself.

    Just like when kids grow up, they fight there parents for dominance, if we didn't we might never leave and spread. It has nothing to do with the parent being stupid or old fashioned, it has everything to do with the kid needing to find their own place in the world.

    Whats on TV is just like any other consumer product, cheep and disposable. People don't get too attached, they don't expect too much, give them something different every now and then, twist after twist to keep them guessing. It's generic, and most people are not especially creative, so it is no surprise that MOST stuff on you tube is junk, but not all of it is, you just have to be willing to dig.
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