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    Apparently there are rumors that this planet will be around the corner in about 4 to 5 years from now and it will cause changes to our planet which will cause disasters that will wipe out a good number of us.

    Any evidence of such thing?


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    Absolutely no evidence at all. The evidence is so absent it is like having a blizzard with no snow flakes.
    In contrast there are many many reasons that point to planet X not appearing and causing the aforementioned mayhem.


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    Is this the planet that supposedly ought to rest between Mars and Jupiter? My suspicion is that the asteroid belt is a planet still under formation, which plays the necessary role to satisfy the predictions.

    It probably won't finish forming until long after we're all dead, of course.
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    I think the asteroid belt is more the result of a planet that could not form because of the gravitational surroundings or such.

    Planet X, on the other hand, is the previously much postulated 10th planet (we have since found many planetoids in the Kuiper belt since, as you know). It has featured in many guises as a key component of some wayward cults as well.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planet_x
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    I think this is in reference to the alleged planet that is suppose to have that very elliptical orbit between Venus and Pluto that, when it comes, is suppose to bring in asteroids and all that when it passes the asteroid belt which will then bring a hailstorm of meteors that will impact Earth creating another devastating Ice Age. This theory has been around for many generations and, as of yet, there has been absolutely no proof of this extraterretrial planet.

    I've also read that the human race came from this mysterious planet. The inhabitants of this planet wanted slaves that could learn quickly so they combined their DNA with Homo Erectus DNA which gave birth to modern humans. Why this keeps being brought up in discussions is beyond me because there is absolutely no proof to substantiate the claims.
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    Well what I heard is as this planet orbits near us there will be weather changes that will cause disasters such as floods, earthquakes, and the climate will shift, I have not heard anything about an impact.

    This is supposed to happen every couple of thousand years as this planet passes by, it was recorded by the Sumerians in the ancient times, they obviously talked about super beings that lived on this planet which is obviously somewhat of a myth (But then again we don't really know if it's true or not since life on other planets is possible).

    The thing I find odd is that these Sumerian texts were written thousands of years ago yet they knew so much about astronomy and things that were supposed to be discovered much later, and in their texts they wrote that these super beings told them everything that they know about the planets around them.
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    and in their texts they wrote that these super beings told them everything that they know about the planets around them.
    Yeh, well these super beings did not really tell them anything that they could not discover for themselves, did they? I mean they did not tell them about Pluto and Charon, the conditions on Venus or anything similar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KALSTER
    and in their texts they wrote that these super beings told them everything that they know about the planets around them.
    Yeh, well these super beings did not really tell them anything that they could not discover for themselves, did they? I mean they did not tell them about Pluto and Charon, the conditions on Venus or anything similar.
    I'm not saying I believe in the whole super being story but the Sumerians knew a lot for their time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BumFluff
    I think this is in reference to the alleged planet that is suppose to have that very elliptical orbit between Venus and Pluto that, when it comes, is suppose to bring in asteroids and all that when it passes the asteroid belt which will then bring a hailstorm of meteors that will impact Earth creating another devastating Ice Age. This theory has been around for many generations and, as of yet, there has been absolutely no proof of this extraterretrial planet.

    I've also read that the human race came from this mysterious planet. The inhabitants of this planet wanted slaves that could learn quickly so they combined their DNA with Homo Erectus DNA which gave birth to modern humans. Why this keeps being brought up in discussions is beyond me because there is absolutely no proof to substantiate the claims.
    It would be interesting if there were an object out at the distance of comets and etc that was massive enough to be seen as a planet. I mean, there's really no way to rule that out (or in, unfortunately). You know, if the Sumerians were right about enough other things, though, then they might have known what they were talking about.

    The problem, however, is that if it has such a highly eliptical orbit, then it's somewhat unlikely that it could sustain life. Its climates would be way too unstable, and the life forms would have to be able to survive in a very wide range of sunlight.


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    and in their texts they wrote that these super beings told them everything that they know about the planets around them.
    Yeh, well these super beings did not really tell them anything that they could not discover for themselves, did they? I mean they did not tell them about Pluto and Charon, the conditions on Venus or anything similar.
    Well, perhaps the (accurately enough it seems) saw Pluto and Charon as mere asteroids in the Kuiper belt, and therefore unworthy of mention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KALSTER
    I think the asteroid belt is more the result of a planet that could not form because of the gravitational surroundings or such.
    This is correct. the gravitational influence of Jupiter seemingly played a large part in preventing large planetary formation in the asteroid belt.
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    I don’t mean to sound stupid but I always thought planet X was meant to be a dwarf planet which had an orbit which was further out then Pluto this is the 1st time I have ever heard of a planet which has an orbit in the asteroid belt between mars and Jupiter and if the was a planet between there would we not have detected it long ago I skimmed through that wiki article and was interested in the possible existence of an earth sized planet after the kuiper belt which I have never heard about before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophiolite
    Quote Originally Posted by KALSTER
    I think the asteroid belt is more the result of a planet that could not form because of the gravitational surroundings or such.
    This is correct. the gravitational influence of Jupiter seemingly played a large part in preventing large planetary formation in the asteroid belt.
    And ... all material in the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter is by far not enough to make up for something that could be called a planet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Browneh
    I don’t mean to sound stupid but I always thought planet X was meant to be a dwarf planet which had an orbit which was further out then Pluto this is the 1st time I have ever heard of a planet which has an orbit in the asteroid belt between mars and Jupiter and if the was a planet between there would we not have detected it long ago I skimmed through that wiki article and was interested in the possible existence of an earth sized planet after the kuiper belt which I have never heard about before.
    There is only eight planets currently in the solar system as of now. Pluto, as you know, is now a dwarf planet and no longer associated with the count fo planets. That being said there have been numerous other dwarf planets discovered outside of the orbit of Pluto, one even being bigger than Pluto itself and orbiting at a distance more than twice the distance between Pluto and the Sun (or at least far far further out) named Eris. The discovery of Eris was what prompted astronomers to rename Pluto as a dwarf planet. Both these planets lie in a region known as the Kuiper Belt which is a dense sphere of rocks from which short period comets originate from and which has been disovered unlike the Oort cloud (From which long period comets are thought to originate).
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    I know all about the Kuiper Belt, Oort cloud ,Eris if i was what im intrested in is what people where talking about like the earth size Planet in the Kuiper belt is this a planet or more somthing like Ceres,Ixion or Quaoar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Birko19
    Apparently there are rumors that this planet will be around the corner in about 4 to 5 years from now
    besides, this solar system doesn't have any corners behind which planets can hide
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    Quote Originally Posted by Browneh
    I know all about the Kuiper Belt, Oort cloud ,Eris if i was what im intrested in is what people where talking about like the earth size Planet in the Kuiper belt is this a planet or more somthing like Ceres,Ixion or Quaoar
    Eris is the largest trans neptunion object. There are no larger dwarf planets in the Kuiper Belt and it is still far smaller than Earth. Eris is also the largest dwarf planet. Perhaps there are quite a few different objects within the Kuiper belt that have not been discovered, actually I'm sure of it. But I doubt very much that any of these objects would suddenly change their orbits from their elliptical orbits and suddenly be hurled in toward the Sun and the Earth.
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    The Mayan prediction that in 2012, planet X will collide with Earth, is complete shit. It does not exist, Sorry to burst some people bubbles.
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    Just to clarify, the Mayans didn't predict that planet X would collide with Earth in 2012. 2012 is merely the end of their last calendar age. The media and such has associated planet x with 2012.
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    It is not impossible that a small planet sized object could move from the Oort Cloud into the Solar System. We would get plenty of warning of it though.
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    Could it be that Pluto and Eris a.k.a. dwarf planets be moons of Planet X? Is it possible at all? So many ?'s so little time.
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    If they were, they would be orbiting that planet and not the Sun.
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    I heard that Planet X could be atlest the size of Neptune. But the Gravitational poll is 3-4 times stronger
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    Could it be that Pluto and Eris a.k.a. dwarf planets be moons of Planet X? Is it possible at all? So many ?'s so little time.
    there are lots of theories that suggest moons such as Triton, were captured by the giant planets. Isn't it Triton that orbits neptune in retrograde? it cant possibly have been formed at the same time.

    other theories often suggested pluto was an escaped satellite of neptune.
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