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  1. #1 what happend during the planck era of the big bang? 
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    has it been figured out yet?? any guesses?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rash26
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    Planck epoch (or Planck era), named after Max Planck, is the earliest period of time in the history of the universe, from zero to approximately 10-43 seconds (one Planck time), during which quantum effects of gravity were significant. One could also say that it is the earliest moment in time, as the Planck time is perhaps the shortest possible interval of time, and the Planck epoch lasted only this brief instant. At this point approximately 1.37×1010 years ago the force of gravity is believed to have been as strong as the other fundamental forces, which hints at the possibility that all the forces were unified. Inconceivably hot and dense, the state of the universe during the Planck epoch was unstable or transitory, tending to evolve and giving rise to the familiar manifestations of the fundamental forces through a process known as symmetry breaking. Modern cosmology now suggests that the Planck epoch may have inaugurated a period of unification or Grand unification epoch, and that symmetry breaking then quickly led to the era of cosmic inflation, the Inflationary epoch, during which the universe greatly expanded in scale over a very short period of time.


    Theoretical ideas

    As there presently exists no widely accepted framework for how to combine quantum mechanics with relativistic gravity, science is not currently able to make predictions about events occurring over intervals shorter than the Planck time or distances shorter than one Planck length, the distance light travels in one Planck time—about 1.616 × 10-35 meters. Without an understanding of quantum gravity, a theory unifying quantum mechanics and relativistic gravity, the physics of the Planck epoch are unclear, and the exact manner in which the fundamental forces were unified, and how they came to be separate entities, is still poorly understood. Three of the four forces have been successfully integrated in a common framework, but gravity remains problematic. If quantum effects are ignored, the universe starts from a singularity with an infinite density. This conclusion could change when quantum gravity is taken into account. String theory and Loop quantum gravity are leading candidates for a theory of unification, which have yielded meaningful insights already, but work in Noncommutative geometry and other fields also holds promise for our understanding of the very beginning.


    Experiments exploring this time

    Experimental data casting light on this cosmological epoch has been scant or non-existent until now, but recent results from the WMAP probe have allowed scientists to test hypotheses about the universe's first trillionth of a second (although the cosmic microwave background radiation observed by WMAP originated when the universe was already several hundred thousand years old). Although this interval is still orders of magnitude longer than the Planck time, other experiments currently coming online including the IceCube neutrino detector and the Planck Surveyor probe, promise to push back our 'cosmic clock' further to reveal quite a bit more about the very first moments of our universe's history, hopefully giving us some insight into the Planck epoch itself. Of course, data from particle accelerators provides meaningful insight into the early universe as well. Experiments with the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider have allowed physicists to determine that the Quark-gluon plasma (an early phase of matter) behaved more like a liquid than a gas, and the Large Hadron Collider soon to come online at CERN will allow us to probe still earlier phases of matter, but no accelerator (current or planned) will allow us to probe the Planck scale directly. However, the more we understand about how matter forms, the more precisely we will be able to interpret what we learn from astrophysical data, and from other sources.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Rash26
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    Planck came before the BBT. He developed his formula around 1900(?)

    The BBT was born in 1929 and certified in 1960.

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    thank u so much with ur elaborate and precise discussion on this topic, 425 Chaotic Requisition, it helped me understnd the topic more clearly...!
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    425 Chaotic Requisition, what allowed the matter/energy to escape what would have been the most gargantuant black hole here ever was?
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    Quote Originally Posted by icewendigo
    425 Chaotic Requisition, what allowed the matter/energy to escape what would have been the most gargantuant black hole here ever was?
    What am I? God? I don't know. Are you saying that a massive explosion caused by the big bang would in effect contradict the exitence of the big bang because there would be a giant black hole? My theory in such explains it. I've give one person a hint, only one will get it. KALSTER. Wibbly Wobbly.
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    I hate to go against the current accepted science that everyone seems to believe in, but the BBT is not science!
    It does not comply to any of the Laws of Physics, experiments or observations. All evidence for the BBT support is 'adhoc'.

    It was originally based on the Slipher, Hubble and Humason observations that were interpreted as Doppler that is REAL science and that implied a repeat of the 'geocentric' theory of the past that was refuted and replaced by the Heliocentric theory. Since this also implied 'one' central location, as the geocentric theory did, it had to be replaced.

    At the same time the SHH observations were being done, some scientists interpreted these observations as an 'expansion of space'.
    A theory by a catholic priest with a PhD, was accepted but his beginning of this BBT was from a giant primval atom that was scrapped.

    So these Doppler interpretations were also dropped and replaced by the EoS idea. This eliminated the 'one' central location.
    So from that point on, adhoc science was created to support these subjective ideas as science.

    The BBT is nothing but QUESTIONS.
    IMO, it is cosmogony.
    Sorry, I cannot quote a PhD title but I can quote all the Laws of Physics, the experiments and other observations to refute the BBT.

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