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  1. #1 Oppisite Sides of the Universe. 
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    If the big bang happened, and all of the matter and energy expanded from a center point, with all the same forces equal in all sides. And at that point i belive all of the superheated matter was also equal. So if it is all equal woulden't it be possible for oppisite sides of the universe to be similar. Shoulden't completly oppisite sides of the universe be similar or exactly the same?


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    good question,
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    its well accepted that on very large scales the universe does look the same.

    the big bang wasent really an explosion like you think it was, the space between the matter and energy increased because space itself was expanding
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymond K
    If the big bang happened, and all of the matter and energy expanded from a center point, with all the same forces equal in all sides. And at that point i belive all of the superheated matter was also equal. So if it is all equal woulden't it be possible for oppisite sides of the universe to be similar. Shoulden't completly oppisite sides of the universe be similar or exactly the same?
    As you say "If the Big Bang happened"....

    Most theory indicate, expansion began, has to this day and will continue into infinity, not only from each side but in ALL directions. The side to side , comes from how matter (stars, Galaxy formed) under our understanding of gravity should be in this pre-shaped, oval sphere or what have you.

    The easiest way to understand IMO, is to think of the singularity, what ever perceived, to be the Universe at that time. Center point, being someplace inside that singularity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by medlakeguy
    its well accepted that on very large scales the universe does look the same.

    the big bang wasent really an explosion like you think it was, the space between the matter and energy increased because space itself was expanding
    Okay, but in the state the matter and energy was I dobt there were any different characteristics. It should all be the same superheated material that makes up matter AND energy, and only by it expanding can it cool and become matter and energy that we think of.

    So again, if the same material comes from the same starting point then...
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    Raymond,

    Are you saying that matter should all be the same throughout the universe? Hydrogen Atoms everywhere?

    The reason this is not so is that stars are the birthplace of all matter in the universe.

    Hydrogen was the only element present when the first stars formed. Heavier elements were formed from the nuclear fusion and fission in the life cycle of stars. Hydrogen fusion + fission yeilded helium, hydrogen and helium fusion + fission allowed for the formation of lithium and so on and so forth through the periodic table of the elements untill all the elements (besides a few man-made ones) which form the universe as we know it were produced.
    "It's no wonder that truth is stranger than fiction. Fiction has to make sense." - Mark Twain
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperNatendo
    Raymond,

    Are you saying that matter should all be the same throughout the universe? Hydrogen Atoms everywhere?

    The reason this is not so is that stars are the birthplace of all matter in the universe.

    Hydrogen was the only element present when the first stars formed. Heavier elements were formed from the nuclear fusion and fission in the life cycle of stars. Hydrogen fusion + fission yeilded helium, hydrogen and helium fusion + fission allowed for the formation of lithium and so on and so forth through the periodic table of the elements untill all the elements (besides a few man-made ones) which form the universe as we know it were produced.
    I didn't think of fusion for some reason, but if it was all of the matter and energy was equally distributed in all directions than how is there such variation?
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    Center point, being someplace inside that singularity.
    A singularity does not have any dimensions, so it does not have a centre point. Also, remember that for the the universe to have an oval or spherical shape would require it to exist inside an even larger structure. That is, for it to have borders that define shape, the borders must have two sides to it, inside and outside. These borders cannot logically exist within the big bang framework.
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