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    Am I wrong in saying that what we as humans can observe is only space-time (4 dimensions) and that the other 7 are somehow wrapped up inside matter? I read a book about super-symatry and string theory quite a few years ago and am not sure I understood it properly. The other 7 are not known to human experience and as such defies logic and can only be dealt with mathematicaly.


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    It seems like density could be considered a dimension perhaps? Well, maybe mass would be the dimension, and density would be mass per area.

    I get the impression that it's largely a matter of perspective. Many people argue whether even time should be considered a fourth dimension or not.


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    Well as far as I know, string-theory is widely accepted. So, and this is probably entirely hair-brained and naive again, but what if matter itself is nothing more than a distortion of space? 11 dimensional space that is. Einstein already said that gravity is just that, so maybe ALL forces could be exlained that way? Then could the big bang maybe have been that a huge amount of virtual particles sprang into existance at the same time ( statisticaly improbable but not impossible?) and the combined energy of all those ripples in 11 dimensional space collapsing again could undergo 11 dimensional interference, creating matter. All matter has a half-life, so that could satisfy the law that energy can't come from nothing (stretching it to be sure, but who knows).
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    and further, maybe the expansion of space can be explained as matter slowly uncurling. The speed of light might then be governed by the speed at which a wave propagates through the fabric of space?
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    Does my rambling even deserve a reply? (please reply "no" if indeed not)
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    So you're suggesting that all matter has the qualities of a wave. Not just light. It's just more apparent in the case of light because of the rate at which it is moving?

    Basically there is no wave-particle duality. Everything is a wave. There are no particles. Just things that seem like particles when the observer is moving in more or less the same way as the object being observed.
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    yes and yes. Does anyone have any background or firsthand knowledge of string theory? Could you please tell me if what i said makes any sense?
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    Very interesting indeed. I can't remember where I heard of the 11th dimension. I think the book I read quite a few years ago, still had an older understanding of string theory. So according to this video, at least my thinking of matter as multi-dimentional distortion was somewhat accurate (if misteriously adding an 11th one). I take it you have a good understanding of all this, dejawolf? Could you maybe augment my utterings to something a bit closer to established theory? I find this topic more and more mesmerising the closer I get to understanding it properly.
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    well, for your first question, you should first think of what a "dimension" is.

    think of it as an arry (a multi dimensional variable),

    the one dimensional arry is a normal variable that stores a number or stirng:

    Variable=1
    | x |


    a two dimensional variable holds two variables that are relavtive to eachother

    arry2d=1,1
    ---------------
    | x | o |
    | o | x |

    the 3d array holds 3 variables(which is kind of hard to demonstrate this here)

    and so on....
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    Quote Originally Posted by dejawolf
    http://www.tenthdimension.com/medialinks.php
    Hehe, I saw that some time back. Quite interesting.

    According to that video, however, If I'm not mistaken they say that although we live in the 4th dimension, we see in the 3rd, because if we could "see" time, then we would be looking at "a long snake-like tube". I'm getting a little bit confused xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by kojax
    Many people argue whether even time should be considered a fourth dimension or not.
    Actually, I believe that's hardly disputed...at least in the scientific community.
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