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  1. #1 Consciousness and unconsciousness in the universe 
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    This is my first time posting here so I hope this is the right forum for this question.

    I'm sure this question has been asked before but I can't seem to find an answer and I'm still curious.

    Living organisms (including man) came from unconscious matter (or I guess unconscious energy because all matter can be turned into energy). I mean, we are just stardust right? So considering that, couldn't you say that consciousness came from unconsciousness? And if that's right then couldn't the unconsciousness that created our consciousness be a product of some original consciousness? And if all it takes is a certain chemical reaction to make conscious beings out of unconscious energy, then couldn't I turn a rock into a conscious being with a certain chemical reaction?

    I have no science background at all and these questions may be way off but If I could get some kind of insight that would be awesome.

    Thank you.


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    Interesting question.

    You might be interested in reading information on the quantum hologram.


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  4. #3 Re: Consciousness and unconsciousness in the universe 
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    And if all it takes is a certain chemical reaction to make conscious beings out of unconscious energy, then couldn't I turn a rock into a conscious being with a certain chemical reaction?
    Well, sure...you could turn a rock into a conscious being with a chemical reaction if the reaction gave the rock a functioning brain. But then would it still be a rock?
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    Well I guess the rock would still be a rock. I mean we (humans) are technically stardust right? The brain is, when you get down to a certain level, made up of the same elements as a rock right? I'm not trying to be rhetorical here or anything, I'm really curious. And I'll check out the quantum hologram.

    Thanks for the input
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    You might as well ask how technology came from a society/species that didn't have it already.

    Theists always seem to think that, in order for something advanced to ever exist, it must come from something even more advanced. Maybe it's because they focus so much on order, and orderly systems naturally run into a problem with entropy. (The gears in the machine grind together too much) The problem with orderly systems is that they focus too much on ideals, and the only direction you can deviate away from that ideal is down/bad.

    In a more chaotic system, it's possible to deviate in a good way.
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    Kojax, thanks for the input. I noticed you said theist, not sure if you were talking about me but I don't believe in God or any deity. Just wanted to make that clear.

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