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  1. #1 Methan on the the Moon Titan 
    Forum Senior miomaz's Avatar
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    Finally scientists have proven the existance of methan on The Moon Titan.
    (If you heard about it you will know that they have used infrared to scan (parts of) the surface. Then, they noticed that as they scaned the surface, the infrared blurred (showed a sort of depth) which is very typical for fluids.)
    I opened this topic to discuss if it is possible life forming on this planet in later stages [3-4 bil. y.].

    supporting this assumption:

    - weather circulation of methan (proven)
    - athmosphere (like the early stages of earth) out of infrared nitrogen(stickstoff?)
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    speaking gainst:

    - one circulation around jupiter takes 13 years
    - it's cold (which is necessary for methan) -180 C`(close before zero)



    My idea is that life may exist in future on the moon but it will take a heck of a time because of the low temperature (low temerature causes that life forms slower)


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    Titan - circulating Jupiter - Far more newsworthy than methane... :wink:


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    miomaz; life formed on the earth, in microscopic forms, it is thought long before our oxygen-nitrogen atmosphere, maybe even before any.

    Triton, Saturn's Moon and the second largest moon in our system and Europa, Jupiter's Moon have been considered for life of some sort. i think what is eventually found on Mars, if anything will determine what else may or may not be...
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    Not only does Titan (moon of Saturn) seem to have gone to Jupiter, but now we have Triton (a moon of Neptune) has gone to Saturn !!

    Let's get it right TITAN - SATURN, TRITON - NEPTUNE!

    As for Jupiter, it's 4 major moons (the ones you can see through binoculars) are IO, Europa, Ganymede and Callisto

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    Will there be life on Titan in the future? Of course there will, though it is difficult to predict when we will first arrive there. 8)
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    Let me reform my question:

    is a methan based lifeform possible?
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    I dont know if you meen methane-based as opposed to carbon-based (as known life is on earth) or if you simply meen methane breathing.

    We havent yet encountered extra-terrestial life so its hard to tell what's the most likely form of life until we compare.

    But even if methane-based life were to be highly improbable, you could still have life in Methane lakes...

    ...It appears that organic matter (or organic-like in composition) might not be all that rare in asteroids and in space (still dont understand the process behind it), so if organic matter falls in lakes of liquid methane there could be some sort of life that forms from this methane environment.

    What we often forget about life on Earth is that it appeared when the Earth was totally hostile to most present life forms, that microbial activity contributed to changing the atmosphere thus creating an atmosphere somewhat poisonous to the very lifeforms that caused the atmospheric change (sounds familiar?), and that the current earth is paradoxically very hostile to the natural generation of new life (since molecular interaction caused by existing life is likely to be hostile to the formation of new life as opposed to the modification of existing organisms, which does not prevent alien life from taking a foothold if it were to reach earth and be adapted to one of the various environments found here).
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    Quote Originally Posted by miomaz
    Let me reform my question:

    is a methan based lifeform possible?
    no body really knows, even the almighty moderators. some do think life can form from other than carbon based. can any life as we know it exist in other conditions and atmospheres. YES, we have examples around the world to indicate this. NO, we as humans could not and require certain elements.

    remember 99% of all life forms that have existed is now extinct. much of this the result of changing condition...there is no reason to think some micro-scopic life on any moon or even planet has not or could not develope.
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    I am also confused as to what miomaz means by methane based life. (And Jackson, methane based life would essentially be carbon based, woudn't it? [That was a rhetorical question])
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    Quote Originally Posted by miomaz
    Let me reform my question:

    is a methan based lifeform possible?
    Does an old fart count?
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    liquid methan,at -180c`

    I agree that there is no direct answer that methan(<--liquid) based lifeforms can exist.

    What kind of life stimulating stuff(yeah, biology....proteins?dunno i think it works under -10c`) would work with the low temerature (-180C`) and liquid methan

    is methan spelled "methane" or "methan" (methan is german)
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    Yes in English it is spelt methane - or fart gas - to the common rabble
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    Plus there would be more meteorites hitting Titan which may help start life.
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    Or smash it to pieces before it worked out how to build concrete shelters.
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    LOL, I hope not or Titan would not have been a very good name
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