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  1. #1 What would happen if there was no 'outer space'? 
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    Of course, we need our Sun, it's basically the source of all activities on Earth. But what if we picked up our Solar system and left it behind in a empty universe. No other stars, no other galaxies, just our solar system. Would anything change? Would our lifes changes or will things just remain as they are?


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    There would be no stars to see at night.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RedPanda View Post
    There would be no stars to see at night.

    And that would make astrologers pretty confused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cogito Ergo Sum View Post
    And that would make astrologers pretty confused.
    ...and unemployed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daankw View Post
    Of course, we need our Sun, it's basically the source of all activities on Earth. But what if we picked up our Solar system and left it behind in a empty universe. No other stars, no other galaxies, just our solar system. Would anything change? Would our lifes changes or will things just remain as they are?
    There would be no existences as we know it. Quantum entanglement. Get rid of everything else and most likely a good chunk of our own subatomic particles would go 'poof'.

    Also, we don't know what the bulk of the universe is....dark matter and dark energy. What role do they play in keeping all matter stable?

    If this was the 19th century and were just dealing with the limited prism of Newtonian physics, get ready for a ride. The Sun travels around the galactic center at 600,000 miles per hour. Think of the a ball on a string spinning around a pole at that speed . Cut the ball loose and.....! Remove the galactic center and its mass and....the Sun goes whoopee!
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    But, since all the planets (and non-planets - I didn't forget you Pluto!) are gravitationally tied to the Sun then we'd "move" with it.
    And, since there's nothing but the solar system - and hence no reference points - would we actually be moving at all?
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    And, since there's nothing but the solar system - and hence no reference points - would we actually be moving at all?
    do we still have the CMBR? if we don't then are we really here?
    Sometimes it is better not knowing than having an answer that may be wrong.
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    You mean to change location of our solar system in intergalactic space or a clam place inside galaxy?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fossilborealis View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Daankw View Post
    Of course, we need our Sun, it's basically the source of all activities on Earth. But what if we picked up our Solar system and left it behind in a empty universe. No other stars, no other galaxies, just our solar system. Would anything change? Would our lifes changes or will things just remain as they are?
    There would be no existences as we know it. Quantum entanglement. Get rid of everything else and most likely a good chunk of our own subatomic particles would go 'poof'.

    Also, we don't know what the bulk of the universe is....dark matter and dark energy. What role do they play in keeping all matter stable?

    If this was the 19th century and were just dealing with the limited prism of Newtonian physics, get ready for a ride. The Sun travels around the galactic center at 600,000 miles per hour. Think of the a ball on a string spinning around a pole at that speed . Cut the ball loose and.....! Remove the galactic center and its mass and....the Sun goes whoopee!
    What is the point you are trying to make? How could we ever know what you are suggesting?
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    We are part of the universe. We are in this universe.

    I guess it would likely put the whole "i was abducted" hillbillys back in their shed.

    How far back in time do you want to take "no universe" without another star to birth ours, we would not have heavier elements, Life could of came from panspermia. that would of been out of the picture.

    Im sure if it all was suddenly turned off today like a light switch, things would be quite messed up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cogito Ergo Sum View Post
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    There would be no stars to see at night.

    And that would make astrologers pretty confused.
    So, no change?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HallsofIvy View Post
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    There would be no stars to see at night.

    And that would make astrologers pretty confused.
    So, no change?

    Correct.
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    If that were to happen (a long time ago before we had records of the Universe and stars etc.), then society would be heavily based on the premise that we are the centre of reality and it would also likely be a lot more religious (without the Universe putting us in our place among the stars).
    It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
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