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  1. #1 ''Comet of the Century'' begins to brighten... (article) 
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    In case you haven’t read about this, thought it was well worth sharing with you all. (I thought it was pretty exciting)
    (From the article) >> However, the most recent calculations predict that ISON will likely survive long enough to put on a show for both professional and amateur astronomers. Comet ISON C/2012 S1 latest: 'comet of the century' begins to brighten as it nears the Sun - Science - News - The Independent


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    A NASA post. Hope it survives for a nice showing...and the weather is clear enough in the Pacific NorthWest rainy season. Comet of the Century? - NASA Science


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    Just a thought .If that thing breaks up in orbit near the sun, will the broken pieces change in trajectory in the direction of near venus or slightly left near earth. And how big is it, say, in comparison to shoemaker. If this possible so said string of pearls broken comet starts smacking earth, how would it be in comparison to a lot volcanos at once.
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    I just hope it "survives" long enough as they predict because it will spectacular to view!
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    As far as I understand it; we ARE in a different part of space to that of years ago, because, our solar system is located in the outer arm of a rotating spiral galaxy, so technically, we ARE in a different part of the universe? Also according to the papers, Ison has come from outside our solar system? I am not a cosmologist; can comets only ever exist in single solar systems, or can they exist in free space and be 'hoovered up' by passing solar systems?
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    (split the thread into this and "comet stuff in pseudoscience"


    More about observing the comet ISON over the next couple weeks if it survives the trip:

    Skywatching photo guide: Here's how to capture Comet ISON - NBC News.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lynx_Fox View Post
    (split the thread into this and "comet stuff in pseudoscience"


    More about observing the comet ISON over the next couple weeks if it survives the trip:

    Skywatching photo guide: Here's how to capture Comet ISON - NBC News.com
    Lynx, I am now confused at what is happening. It seems you have removed some of the quotes from the page and I cannot guess why, if you don't let me know what is taking place. What is going on? Am I allowed to continue without a ban or what?
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    Stargate, looks like Lynx just took your quotes into Pseudo-science, to continue a further dialogue there, as to the points you made, here. No biggie, and it could be a fun discussion, I'll have to check the new thread out, later. (As to any potential ban, if I were a bettin' woman, I'd say, it's a safe bet to avoid continuing the discussion in this thread, along the lines you were, yesterday. Just my two cents lol)
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    Quote Originally Posted by wegs View Post
    Stargate, looks like Lynx just took your quotes into Pseudo-science, to continue a further dialogue there, as to the points you made, here. No biggie, and it could be a fun discussion, I'll have to check the new thread out, later. (As to any potential ban, if I were a bettin' woman, I'd say, it's a safe bet to avoid continuing the discussion in this thread, along the lines you were, yesterday. Just my two cents lol)
    Thanks Wegs, your the best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wegs View Post
    Is it silly that I have tears in my eyes watching this? This is just so freaking amazing, guys.
    That appears to be film of a number of different meteors; nothing at all to do with ISON.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strange View Post
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    Is it silly that I have tears in my eyes watching this? This is just so freaking amazing, guys.
    That appears to be film of a number of different meteors; nothing at all to do with ISON.
    I'm aware, but still thought it was neat to share it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wegs View Post
    I'm aware, but still thought it was neat to share it.
    Fair enough. (Although, in future, it might be better to make the nature of such fakes clear to avoid misleading the more gullible members of the forum...)
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    lol, I've removed it...
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    Comets are the neatest things to watch if they are close enough.
    Nasa is pretty cool for a goverment agency.
    The thing with goverment agencies though is.
    They do what ever they do , they are regular people, not including the pentigon's helmited screwups.
    What those regular people do regular or not
    is subject to a thing called information control.
    What the public gets is called a press release.
    You should probably worry about a comet when they DON'T give a press release.
    As is not the case with this comet.
    So to sum this up.
    Not to worry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hill Billy Holmes View Post
    What those regular people do regular or not
    is subject to a thing called information control.
    Citation needed.

    Also, remember that millions of other astronomers, professional and amateur, also track things like comets. So even if NASA decided not to release any information, it wouldn't make any difference.
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    I had the telescope out for the levi comet. I was looking right at jupiter at the time. I could only barely see two of it's moons. I saw the hale bop one, spectacular.
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    Anyone read the latest news about ISON? I'm on my phone but will post an article about it later.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wegs View Post
    Anyone read the latest news about ISON? I'm on my phone but will post an article about it later.
    The news is not good.

    Cool video though!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j6nkLnHyG0
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    www.nasa.gov/ison/#.Vpf1vieLpxd Click on comet ison toolkit
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    shades of Icarus?
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    can't get the link to work for : thewatchers.adorraeli.com The website has good current comet information on it. Hard to predict its orbit. Lot of math?
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    Comet Is no longer the same, looks like It was torn apart by the sun. We won't be seeing It again.
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    Yeah, a bummer indeed. I was reading earlier reports hours ago that seemed hopeful, but nah, I don't think so at this point.
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    Wasn't there supposed to be important information to have been gleaned from this particular comet (as disinct from other comets)?

    Or am I confusing this with some other event?

    Was the importance of Comet Ison mainly down to the show it was hoped to provide or was there important information about the Sun it was hoped to learn?
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    I'm trying to find the video on path prediction. Everything seems to be a day old. UTC is an 8 hour difference from here.
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    Comet of the century! Bright as a full moon! LOL
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    Here is a new one. Nasa kicks comet ison's ass. 30 degrees into perehelion around the sun, comet ison was pushed into the sun. The round section missing in the resulting tail is evedence of an explosion. The tail pointing away from the sun is at an angle where it would be at 30 degrees behind the sun. The orbit changes at that 30 degree point. The exit from behing the sun photos apear to have been possibly faked. This could also be the reason for not showing images closer to the sun itself as ison went past it. either way and all in all comet ison represented an astronomy and astronomy information slowdown, and of course ,no comet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geordief View Post
    Wasn't there supposed to be important information to have been gleaned from this particular comet (as disinct from other comets)?

    Or am I confusing this with some other event?

    Was the importance of Comet Ison mainly down to the show it was hoped to provide or was there important information about the Sun it was hoped to learn?
    Thought this was interesting...maybe you will, too.

    5 things to know about Comet ISON - CNN.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by wegs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by geordief View Post
    Wasn't there supposed to be important information to have been gleaned from this particular comet (as disinct from other comets)?

    Or am I confusing this with some other event?

    Was the importance of Comet Ison mainly down to the show it was hoped to provide or was there important information about the Sun it was hoped to learn?
    Thought this was interesting...maybe you will, too.

    5 things to know about Comet ISON - CNN.com
    On one of the photos was this comment, (I wonder if anything else has been released about this?) "After returning the world's first particles from a comet, the Stardust capsule was packed up and shipped to the Smithsonian. The mission's principal investigator was surprised by the size and composition of the particles captured in the capsule's aerogel-lined collector."


    Found this "
    NASA STARDUST CAPSULE TO GO ON DISPLAY AT SMITHSONIAN"
    http://stardust.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news114.html
    Not really what I wanted. I was interested in what was recovered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Robittybob1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by wegs View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by geordief View Post
    Wasn't there supposed to be important information to have been gleaned from this particular comet (as disinct from other comets)?

    Or am I confusing this with some other event?

    Was the importance of Comet Ison mainly down to the show it was hoped to provide or was there important information about the Sun it was hoped to learn?
    Thought this was interesting...maybe you will, too.

    5 things to know about Comet ISON - CNN.com
    On one of the photos was this comment, (I wonder if anything else has been released about this?) "After returning the world's first particles from a comet, the Stardust capsule was packed up and shipped to the Smithsonian. The mission's principal investigator was surprised by the size and composition of the particles captured in the capsule's aerogel-lined collector."


    Found this "
    NASA STARDUST CAPSULE TO GO ON DISPLAY AT SMITHSONIAN"
    http://stardust.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news114.html
    Not really what I wanted. I was interested in what was recovered.
    It's all rather incredible, isn't it? I'm hopeful that more info will emerge relating to ISON. Guess, we'll have to wait and see.
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    Actually I have come across the source of what I heard about this comet that was particularly interesting.

    It was the BBC Horizon "Comet of the Century" programme which was (to me ) in depth and explained among other things how the comet,inter alia had a bearing on the source of water in the Earth (how much heavy water did it contain ), how planets were formed (if it broke up or near the sun not mattered-I can't recall why) and where Neptune was originally formed in the Solar System.

    I managed to record it this time .

    Perhaps others with more knowledge than me could say whether this programme was "good science" -I was certainly impressed.

    I also found it on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pb0YoYf3My0
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    NASA has revealed new footage of ISON as it survives the sun passage. There's a lot of chatter about it's trajectory with Earth. Not sure why it is just chatter so to speak as opposed to real-scientific opinion?
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    "May" have survived? Look at the video for yourselves. Any ideas from any astronomers out there?
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    The thing to notice with this footage is how the comet is swinging behind the sun from 5 o'clock to 11 o'clock and back toward the camera reference.
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