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  1. #1 Yes...another time thread 
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    Hi everyone,

    I was just thinking....if time began with the Big Bang and the BB was the start of our universe, then why can't we say that our universe is eternal? Our universe has never existed outside of time, if time began with the BB, and time couldn't have began without our universe/the BB.

    Is this something a reasonable person can argue and be taken seriously?


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    One theory is that the Big Bang is simply one more cycle of Bang/Expand/Contract/Crunch and that it's an eternal process of the same matter just being reworked each time. If this is true then the matter of the universe is eternal but our particular universe is just somewhere along the eternal journey.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tau Ceti View Post
    Is this something a reasonable person can argue and be taken seriously?
    Only if you can demonstrate it is not going to end.
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    I'm not sure I like the idea that eternity can have a beginning.
    "Ok, brain let's get things straight. You don't like me, and I don't like you, so let's do this so I can go back to killing you with beer." - Homer
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedFreek View Post
    I'mnot sure I like the idea that eternity can have a beginning.
    That is the mind-blowing part of believing in God (which I do). The human mindcan handle something never ending but not something which has no creation, justthat has always been. I guess it's why scientists tend to theorize post the BigBang as their best theory pre-BB (that matter just came from nothing and, in aninfinite space, somehow collided) sounds as fanciful as believing in a beingsitting on a space clouds somewhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by Citadel View Post
    That is the mind-blowing part of believing in God (which I do).

    Nothing to do with the topic.

    The human mindcan handle something never ending but not something which has no creation, justthat has always been.
    Rubbish - as evidenced by your own claim.

    I guess it's why scientists tend to theorize post the BigBang as their best theory
    Nonsense.
    They theorise the BB because it fits the evidence.
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    Love you too Dywyddyr *hug*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Citadel View Post
    The human mind [can't handle] something which has no creation, just that has always been.
    So - your mind can't handle your god? Or was your god created?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tau Ceti View Post
    if time began with the Big Bang and the BB was the start of our universe,
    That is a big if.
    Without wishing to overstate my case, everything in the observable universe definitely has its origins in Northamptonshire -- Alan Moore
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    Why can't something have a definite start point, and still be eternal (having no end point)?
    Its the way nature is!
    If you dont like it, go somewhere else....
    To another universe, where the rules are simpler
    Philosophically more pleasing, more psychologically easy
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