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    My new theory is that the universe is a figmant of its own imagination. I would enjoy seeing somebody prove that this isnt possible. :wink:


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    hi person with difficult name. I thought you all knew already that it is impossible to prove anything. People may find support for their thesis, or hypothesis, but no one can ever prove anything, since no matter what you say you will always need an assumption to base it on. Now I'd think that this should work the other way around, that is, you should tell us why you think what you think and give us all your best arguments in its favour and we tell you what is not convincing in it. Otherwise this is all going to be a big pile of nonsense where we can never find a common language. I'll tell you that your theory is not true but you are dreaming it and your post here is part of your dream. Your reading of my post on the other hand is happening around the morning when you're wakening up and coming around to your senses. Disprove that if you can!


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    I think your idea is right. I wil try to prove that conciousness is the border of the universe. Our own conciousness create's the future when we are traveling tru time.
    Conciousness is the border of the universe..
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    Vroomfondel isn't a difficult name - it's Vroom like the noise a car makes, and fondel, like fondle.

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    I don't quite understand your theory. It's "a figment" of "its own" imagination? Do YOU even understand what that means or were you just stringing the words together because you heard them used somewhere else before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vroomfondel
    My new theory is that the universe is a figmant of its own imagination. I would enjoy seeing somebody prove that this isnt possible. :wink:

    If it does not exist then how can it have a memory
    If this is your new theory what was your old theory??
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    Point 1: You do not have a theory, you have a low level speculation.

    Point 2: rrushuis (person with another difficult name )was perfectly correct. Nothing can be proved, only disproved.

    Point 3: It is plausible that the emergent properties of the Universe, currently hovering around the discrete intelligences mark, may continue developing to the the point where the Universe as a whole is conscious and intelligent, and capable of initiating itself by reaching back through time.

    Point 4: If this thread continues down this route, I shall move it to philosophy.
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    If a Roman told you that all Romans are nothing but a figment of some unexplained imagination, would you believe him?

    It was all approximately in situ when we individually and collectively arrived, and, it will all be approximately in situ when we individually and collectively depart. (It all goes on within you and without you.)

    "I imagine, therefore I may hallucinate I am imagining that the universe may or may not be". - Paraphrased

    Who (is asking the question) is on 1st. Tomorrow is on second. Yesterday is answering up in the outfield. I don't give a damn is playing shortstop. I don't care is on third. Can indifference strike out or make a home run? Nobody cares. It doesn't make any difference. There's nothing anyone can do about it anyway. My acolytes and I are not into denial. Can an incredibly shrinking mouse consume a credibly squared piece of cheese?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rrushius
    hi person with difficult name. I thought you all knew already that it is impossible to prove anything.
    Now see what you have done. What good is the truth when you ruined his game?
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    Who knows what the universe is? It could actually be very microscopic compared to the rest of "existance." I mean, we as humans created our systems of measurement, but whos to say that it is right compared to the universe and that humans are the "average" size of a living being that can think and have emotions. We could actually just be some kind of experiment that some other species created, they didnt like it, so they sent it millions apon millions of light years away and it just happened that we were able to create our own society. Who knows?.......trip on that for awhile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redrum4196
    Who knows what the universe is? It could actually be very microscopic compared to the rest of "existance." I mean, we as humans created our systems of measurement, but whos to say that it is right compared to the universe and that humans are the "average" size of a living being that can think and have emotions. We could actually just be some kind of experiment that some other species created, they didnt like it, so they sent it millions apon millions of light years away and it just happened that we were able to create our own society. Who knows?.......trip on that for awhile.
    Who knows indeed. Meanwhile, just for the sake of fun and nothing else, I recommend that you consider tripping for awhile on where scientists are now and perhaps slightly beyond rather than on the most most odd possibilities available to your wonderful imagination.
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    Poetic and philosophical statements are never provable one way or another.
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    ah, save the planet. But can Mars really be saved? And furthermore, save it from what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophiolite
    Point 1: You do not have a theory, you have a low level speculation.

    Point 2: rrushuis (person with another difficult name )was perfectly correct. Nothing can be proved, only disproved.

    Point 3: It is plausible that the emergent properties of the Universe, currently hovering around the discrete intelligences mark, may continue developing to the the point where the Universe as a whole is conscious and intelligent, and capable of initiating itself by reaching back through time.

    Point 4: If this thread continues down this route, I shall move it to philosophy.
    Hehe, im just quoting Douglas Adams. My old theory is that the universe formed itself from nothing because nothing was very bored and felt like doing something for a change.
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    Oh, but why did you not explain that right in the beginning, man? Now this makes a lot more sense...
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    Ophiolite wrote

    Point 3: It is plausible that the emergent properties of the Universe, currently hovering around the discrete intelligences mark, may continue developing to the the point where the Universe as a whole is conscious and intelligent, and capable of initiating itself by reaching back through time.
    I told you this a while ago :-D , did I not
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    Sorry
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