Thread: The galactic equator / dark rift

Is there any truth that we will soon be crossing the galactic equator / dark rift in 2012 ?

(I am not referring to all of the apocalyptic hype about 2012 - just interested if there is any truth in the crossing the dark rift part)

I think the galaxy is several thousand light years thick where we are? (though check it up) so I'm not sure you'd be ably to pin it down to that sort of accuracy. I would imagine it takes many tens of thousands of years for our solar system to travel even 1 light year in a 'vertical sense' - but who knows? either way to pin down the area of the galactic plane to a year or so sounds pretty remote to me.

No truth whatsoever. This is more New Age/End Times/Sell Another Book nonsense. The world would be a happier place if people who promote this rubbish were put into prison with all the economists and bankers, and the comparatively safe murderers, pimps and drug pushers were let back out on the street.

I'm afraid I can't even offer citations to refute it, because its claims are so silly and nebulous.

We've had a couple of threads on this already. See:

http://www.thescienceforum.com/2012-...ter-16258t.php

The position of the earth is not passing through anywhere. It is related to the alignment of the earth and sun at the time of the solstices, and that alignment already peaked in 1998.

Aha, an interesting read. Okay, I am wondering what could possibly cause a pole-shift.

Crossing the galactic central plane where gravity could be more concentrated from the super-massive black hole would seem the obvious choice - the earth's rotation would slow and eventually spin in the opposite direction as soon as we crossed the galactic equator (in the same way water spins in the opposite direction in the southern hemisphere than it does here)

Originally Posted by leohopkins

Aha, an interesting read. Okay, I am wondering what could possibly cause a pole-shift.

Crossing the galactic central plane where gravity could be more concentrated from the super-massive black hole would seem the obvious choice - the earth's rotation would slow and eventually spin in the opposite direction as soon as we crossed the galactic equator (in the same way water spins in the opposite direction in the southern hemisphere than it does here)

1. There is no reason for gravity from the central black hole to be concentrated in the galactic plane.

2. Water doe not spin in the opposite direction in the Southern hemisphere. The coriolis effect is too weak to effect anything much smaller than storm systems.

3. Even with storm systems, they don't physically rotate in opposite directions in different hemispheres. What changes is the perspective of the person standing in the Northern vs. Southern hemisphere.

Originally Posted by leohopkins

Aha, an interesting read. Okay, I am wondering what could possibly cause a pole-shift.

It seems that phenomenon is not well understood.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagn...eversal#Causes

Originally Posted by leohopkins

Crossing the galactic central plane where gravity could be more concentrated from the super-massive black hole would seem the obvious choice ...

Huh? Gravity is a radial force. So, its force field is distributed spherically around it. The last post on the page of the link Harold14370 provided shows a clear discrepancy between the periods of crossing through the galactic plane (dozens of million years) and the magnetic pole shifts (several hundred thousand years). Furthermore, the oscillation of the sun through the galactic plane is periodic, while the pole shifts are clearly not.

Originally Posted by Janus

Originally Posted by leohopkins

Aha, an interesting read. Okay, I am wondering what could possibly cause a pole-shift.

Crossing the galactic central plane where gravity could be more concentrated from the super-massive black hole would seem the obvious choice - the earth's rotation would slow and eventually spin in the opposite direction as soon as we crossed the galactic equator (in the same way water spins in the opposite direction in the southern hemisphere than it does here)

1. There is no reason for gravity from the central black hole to be concentrated in the galactic plane.

2. Water doe not spin in the opposite direction in the Southern hemisphere. The coriolis effect is too weak to effect anything much smaller than storm systems.

3. Even with storm systems, they don't physically rotate in opposite directions in different hemispheres. What changes is the perspective of the person standing in the Northern vs. Southern hemisphere.

3. If you're standing by a hurricane, you see counter-clockwise rotation.
If you're standing by a typhoon, you see clockwise rotation.
Research before making such ludicrous statements please.

Originally Posted by Cloudy2Clear

3. If you're standing by a hurricane, you see counter-clockwise rotation.
If you're standing by a typhoon, you see clockwise rotation.
Research before making such ludicrous statements please.

If you were hovering over the North pole and not sharing the Earth's rotation, you would see the Earth rotate counter-clockwise under you.

If you are hovering over the South pole in the same manner, you would see the Earth as rotating clockwise under you.

This is not due to any physical difference in the rotation of the Earth, only your orientation with respect to it.
The same is true when you are standing next to a typhoon or hurricane. To an observer watching the Earth from space, both would rotate in the same direction.

there isn't going to be some apocolptic thing in 2012 almost no one knows what the mayan calender is talking about and it isn't that we are crossing the middle of the universe what happens is that he galaxy is alighning which only happens like every 500,000 years(I don't know how much something with a 5 though)