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  1. #1 Something Strange About Saturn! 
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    NASA scientists have claimed that the recent photographs of the hexagon at the North pole of Saturn is surprising and baffling.

    I have looked at explanations which attempt to explain the appearance of the hexagon and put them together in the article linked below.

    I would love your suggestions

    http://www.scienceray.com/Astronomy/...-Saturn.371927
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    Very interesting.

    As much Id like to think this is something exciting. I'm sure either way it still is exciting but not as thrilling as possible life. I think its just a natural effect.


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    You mention in your linked blog that 'Whether NASA scientists really are baffled - or simply unwilling to reveal the science will unfortunately also remain a mystery.'

    I am not aware of any instance in almost half a century of NASA's existence when their scientists have witheld 'the science' for any of their discoveries. Am I just being naive? Even if they are 'keeping a secret', why do you think their reasons will continue to be a mystery indefinitely?

    It is true that a clear explanation of the hexagon has not been arrived at, but several papers dealing with observations of the phenomena have been published, so it seems wrong to suggest that the science is somehow being concealed. I would be interested to know what you had in mind.
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    Possibly there is a large impact crater underneath? I suspect that of the Red Spot area of Jupiter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt
    I am not aware of any instance in almost half a century of NASA's existence when their scientists have witheld 'the science' for any of their discoveries. Am I just being naive?
    Yes? NASA often withhold information - and always will. They have been responsible for countless technological advancements in a plethora of fields - sharing information is often not in their best interests. Simple Google searches should reveal enough. You do know that NASA is funded by the US Government? How very naive and ignorant of you to believe they would not withhold information. This is not a tone i normally assume, but the tone you assumed in your response to the OP was neither sociable nor transparent. And your opening sentence was incredibly silly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntheticlight
    Quote Originally Posted by John Galt
    I am not aware of any instance in almost half a century of NASA's existence when their scientists have witheld 'the science' for any of their discoveries. Am I just being naive?
    Yes? NASA often withhold information - and always will. .
    could you give an example or two. My impression, based upon a lenghty interest in astronautics, is that they are very free with their information. Indeed I believe it is part of their charter that they be so. I am quite ready to learn I am mistaken, but I would appreciate some evidence.
    Quote Originally Posted by syntheticlight
    They have been responsible for countless technological advancements in a plethora of fields - sharing information is often not in their best interests.
    I agree completely with the first part. I don't see how you arrive at the conclusion in the second part. I agree that details of, say, rocket technology would be restricted because of military applications. However, I believe we are only talking here about their astronomical discoveries. That was certainly the sense in which I understood suziwong's post and what I directed my reply to. If you are talking about the technology used to get things into space, I can agree with you that some of this will be classified.
    Quote Originally Posted by syntheticlight
    Simple Google searches should reveal enough.
    I'm usually pretty good at turning things up with Google, but I've drawn a blank. Would you offer a couple of examples?
    Quote Originally Posted by syntheticlight
    You do know that NASA is funded by the US Government? How very naive and ignorant of you to believe they would not withhold information.
    I am aware of the origin and character of NASA. (It would probably be more accurate to say that it is an agency of the US government than to say it is funded by it.) You seem to be saying that since it under the control of the US government that automatically means it will withhold information. I can completely agree that governments in general and the US government in particular withhold information. I don't see that it follows that because they withhold information some of the time, that they do it all of the time. Again, if you can offer an example or two I may find it easy to accept your viewpoint on this.
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    This is not a tone i normally assume, but the tone you assumed in your response to the OP was neither sociable nor transparent. .
    I think we have got off on the wrong foot. It is difficult to interpret the underlying tone from just words. I'm not sure what tone came across in my post,, but I apologise if it upset, or offended you. That was not my intent. I was genuinely puzzled by suziwong's apparent belief that NASA were withholding information. It didn't match my perceptions. I said that - openly - and asked, I thought politely, for some evidence and for suzi's further thoughts on the topic.

    syntheticlight,
    I am not sure how I have upset you, but it seems I have. I just want to have a discussion around the thread topic. The hexagon at Saturn's pole is a pretty amazing thing - but I'm sure we will figure it out sooner or later. I don't think someone has figured it out already and is concealing it, so I'd like to understand the arguments of anyone who does think that. That's why I've asked a couple of times in this post for evidence of NASA withholding information in the past. (While I have been writing this it occurs to me that there was a trace of this in relation to the Challenger disaster, but again I am not talking about rocketry, but about astronomical data.)
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    John
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