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  1. #1 Newthinking theory of mine (And abit crazy i guess) 
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    Dont you find it abit of a coincidence that solarsystems has a sphere in the middle with smaller ones flying around? Just as in an atom? Could it be that our solarsystem/galaxy is just a buildingstone of something yet bigger?

    What if we arent as big as we thought, that we are actually almost infinite small in a micro universe - that is just buildingstones of something bigger again?

    What if we are to something bigger, what an atom in the leg of a fly is to us? And that is why everything seems so hopelessly big?

    Maybe if we zoom out from the atom in the leg of the fly, and out of our galaxy far enough. We`d eventually see a creature or obstacle we are a part of, wich yet again is just a building stone of something bigger there again. And by zooming endlessly more out one would simply come back to the START! The atom in the leg of a fly standing on a tree here on earth.

    Multiple universes could be made not from layers, but simply the size of itself. In an infinite loop?

    Edit: And no im not using LSD right now.


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    Its very possible, and I have thought of that before myself. Many have, and it could very well be possible.

    Just imagine the universe from start to end, and how much spacetime it takes up in 4 dimensions, and thats just 4. The universe is not only wierder than we imagine, it could well be our imagination, quite literally...


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    Quote Originally Posted by 425 Chaotic Requisition
    Its very possible, and I have thought of that before myself. Many have, and it could very well be possible.

    Just imagine the universe from start to end, and how much spacetime it takes up in 4 dimensions, and thats just 4. The universe is not only wierder than we imagine, it could well be our imagination, quite literally...
    Glad to hear others toying with such theories

    When it comes to imagination, isnt it accepted by scientists that - if something CAN happen (nomatter how small the chanse is) it will happen eventually? Sinse spacetime is endless shouldnt all we are capable of imagining at some point become reality logically speaking?

    (Excuse my grammar btw, not native english speaker)
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    Yes I believe that to be true. I believe that everytjing is possible and is true in perhaps other parallel universes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 425 Chaotic Requisition
    Yes I believe that to be true. I believe that everytjing is possible and is true in perhaps other parallel universes.
    If paralell universes = true. Then big, suddently became friggin huge >.<
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    You can invent as many theories as you wish, but they will never bring you anywhere unless you possess some empirical or intensely logical evidence to support them; without which they would be best suited for books, music, and video games.
    Of all the wonders in the universe, none is likely more fascinating and complicated than human nature.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raziell
    Dont you find it abit of a coincidence that solarsystems has a sphere in the middle with smaller ones flying around? Just as in an atom?
    Atoms are not like that. That is just a popular image, it is not reality. There are far more differences between solar systems and atoms than there are similarities.

    But imagining such things is good. It helps to develop the creative side of your thinking. You also need to develop the critical side, as Cold Fusion has suggested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophiolite
    There are far more differences between solar systems and atoms than there are similarities.
    Like apples and oranges. :wink:

    Well no, I'd say they're about as comparable as a pumpkin and a stingray... which in the greater scheme of things is still very.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pong
    Well no, I'd say they're about as comparable as a pumpkin and a stingray... which in the greater scheme of things is still very.
    Aand if you were comparing those you wouldn't expect the pumpkin to exhibit exceptional swimming skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophiolite
    Quote Originally Posted by Pong
    Well no, I'd say they're about as comparable as a pumpkin and a stingray... which in the greater scheme of things is still very.
    And if you were comparing those you wouldn't expect the pumpkin to exhibit exceptional swimming skills.
    Additionally, any person attempting to make cheap Halloween decor by hollowing out a stingray and lighting it from within by means of a candle really needs to rethink their strategy.
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    Ha ha but let's look closely at the pith. In the stingray we find structures not unlike pumpkins, while in the pumpkin we find little critters similar to stingrays. How closely can we look? I predict that as we look ever more closely into things (conversely macro - same thing) we will find recurrent analogous "frames" and these will fall into neat patterns, like a wave or periodic table.

    The atom = solar system analogy is right insofar as Columbus was right that Japan was just across the Atlantic.
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    There is a total difference between analogies and fractal identities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophiolite
    fractal identities
    Right. Better term, thanks.
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    I've thought of that too but in a different way... As far as I'm concerned, scientist have always said that universe is like... everything, the place where all the matter exists, but they've also said that universe keeps expanding and becoming bigger and bigger... so I say, how can a thing that is supposed to be the "everything" become bigger?? and if it does, doesn't it mean then that there's something even bigger than this which contains the universe inside?? (I mean, if something can grow is because it's smaller than the medium it is at)... everytime I think about it I just feel dizzy because we haven't even gotten out of our galaxy, and thinking of all the things we have yet to discover is really frustrating :-D

    PS: By the way, I'm not a perfect english speaker, my native language is spanish, so I'm sorry if there's something you don't understand
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raziell
    Dont you find it abit of a coincidence that solarsystems has a sphere in the middle with smaller ones flying around? Just as in an atom? Could it be that our solarsystem/galaxy is just a buildingstone of something yet bigger?
    Our solar system is part of our galaxy, and the galaxy is part of a group, and after a few more steps up the scale of immense sizes you get to what we call the universe.

    This universe is thought to have begun in a huge great walloping explosion known as the Big Bang.

    But what if all of this is only a tiny fragment of something yet a few hundred orders of magnitude bigger, and the Big Bang and the whole resulting universe is just one spark in a fireworks display at some meta-kids birthday party?

    Of course I have no evidence, either empirical, logical or any other, to confirm such a weird hypothesis. But I like it. And it seems just as impossible to disprove as it is to prove. So, just in case, let's all sing real loud:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ion_Fortuna
    PS: By the way, I'm not a perfect english speaker, my native language is spanish, so I'm sorry if there's something you don't understand
    Your English was fine. Better than my spanish.

    Your questions seem logical, but just don't work when we start to speak of the universe. Common sense does not work in this situation. The human mind finds it difficult to grasp the concepts, which is why the theory is best expressed in mathematics.
    If you are like me with maths it then winds up beyond our full understanding.
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    this discussion is totally unloigical. Ofcourse we are a smaller part of something 'bigger', no question.
    If you belive that the galxies function as atoms inside some kind of being, it may be possible in our universe but the laws of physics fit exraordinariely to carbon based life our size in our enviorment at this part of time elapsed from the BB, changing one of these values makes it very impropable that we even existed.
    Therefore speculating if it is possible to have a creature of this size is a whole other story and has little to do with our known physics regarding atoms. (for instance you can use a newtonian formulae to calculate something at a subatomic level)
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    Stop trying to pop the quiff :0
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    Believe it or not, i also had thought about it this way.
    My conclusion was not the return to the starting point and then continuous repetition of the pattern. I just think there is an endless amount of levels.

    We pretty much figured out that everything out there does exist on different levels and so stellar bodies may very well be building blocks of something else with galaxies making up a structure which we could never understand as to its purpose or processes that take place within it (gravity for instance). From infinitely small to infinitely large. It is amazing though how close the resemblance is in the picture posted by Crippled of a hurricane and and a galaxy.
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