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    Some people claim that US flag resumbles a prison robe with a patch on it. In any case it looks too complicated and not too aesthetically pleasant. I don't live in US, but curious if there is any movement to change US flag, to make it simpler and more attractive. Personally, I think that Somalia flag could be a good example, taking in account the general style which is already present in US flag.
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    If you were going to change the US flag, wouldn't you want to choose a design or image which truly symbolises what America stands for, that is instantly recognisable across the globe, e.g. the Statue of Liberty perhaps.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanley514 View Post
    Some people claim that US flag resumbles a prison robe with a patch on it. In any case it looks too complicated and not too aesthetically pleasant. I don't live in US, but curious if there is any movement to change US flag, to make it simpler and more attractive. Personally, I think that Somalia flag could be a good example, taking in account general style which is already present in US flag.
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    some people claim.(citation needed)
    Not aesthetically pleasant (personal preference is irrelevant)
    General style already present (thank colonialism for the similarity)

    I feel you havent actually read up on the history of the flag and why it is what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ascended View Post
    If you were going to change the US flag, wouldn't you want to choose a design or image which truly symbolises what America stands for, that is instantly recognisable across the globe, e.g. the Statue of Liberty perhaps.
    Not too bad idea, but perhaps a flag should be as simple as possible and not include a complicated artistic images. There could be a circumstances when people want to create flag of their homeland, but have no access to complicated equipment. Think of war, isolation, poverty, armageddon, etc. If they will try to create it without a proficient artist it may look caricature-like and reduculos. There are few industrially-developed nations who's flag includes complicated images such as humaoids or animals, plant. One of them is Canada, but maple leaf is still not to complicated. Simple patters are easier to recognise from a long distance and memorise. An image of Statue of Liberty will look poorly recognizable and vague from long distance if it isn't huge enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stanley514 View Post
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    If you were going to change the US flag, wouldn't you want to choose a design or image which truly symbolises what America stands for, that is instantly recognisable across the globe, e.g. the Statue of Liberty perhaps.
    Not too bad idea, but perhaps a flag should be as simple as possible and not include a complicated artistic images. There could be a circumstances when people want to create flag of their homeland, but have no access to complicated equipment. Think of war, isolation, poverty, armageddon, etc. If they will try to create it without a proficient artist it may look caricature-like and reduculos. There are few industrially-developed nations who's flag includes complicated images such as humaoids or animals, plant. One of them is Canada, but maple leaf is still not to complicated. Simple patters are easier to recognise from a long distance and memorise. An image of Statue of Liberty will look poorly recognizable and vague from long distance if it isn't huge enough.
    You have a good point, I guess the image of the Statue of Liberty would have to be quite intricate to be recognisable and maybe too complicated. I still kind of like the symbolism though reminding the world what America is really about, especially after the Trump period.
    I mentioned your idea of a single star flag, e.g. the Somalian flag you posted a link to, to my brother and he said you've have to find a way though to stop people thinking of Texas though, the "Lone Star State", then he suggested an eagle with a bear in one claw and a giant panda in the other, (but I think he was joking!).
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    then he suggested an eagle with a bear in one claw and a giant panda in the other, (but I think he was joking!).
    Let him look at the majority of flags in the World. Majority of them aren't too complicated. And this is for the reason. Artistic images of people, plants and animals are more common among Asian and African countries, but still there are few of them. US flag is one of the most complicated in the World regarding geomentrical patterns.
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    I see you are ignoring my post.

    Here it is again for you, as I am still waiting for a reply

    some people claim.(citation needed)
    Not aesthetically pleasant (personal preference is irrelevant)
    General style already present (thank colonialism for the similarity)

    I feel you havent actually read up on the history of the flag and why it is what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paleoichneum View Post
    I see you are ignoring my post.

    Here it is again for you, as I am still waiting for a reply

    some people claim.(citation needed)
    Not aesthetically pleasant (personal preference is irrelevant)
    General style already present (thank colonialism for the similarity)

    I feel you havent actually read up on the history of the flag and why it is what it is.

    Speaking to fellow members like this isn't likely to increase forum participation.

    Can we at least speak to each other in a way that doesn't sound like an inquisition.

    Why would anybody want to respond to you when start off with that kind of tone. It just looks like you are trolling for attention.

    If you are going ask questions and are genuinely hoping for a response at least be polite!
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    I'm asking serious questions on the subject. The questions were ignored by the OP.
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    Here’s a bunch of opinions. Never knew there was so much ado about a flag.

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